Now here's the moral dilemma. If neither event is going to happen to you personally, but you still had to choose one or the other:
Would you prefer that one person be horribly tortured for fifty years without hope or rest, or that 3^^^3 people get dust specks in their eyes?
I think the answer is obvious. How about you?
A hypothetical being, which Nozick calls the utility monster, receives much more utility from each unit of a resource that it consumes than anyone else does. For instance, eating a cookie might bring only one unit of pleasure to an ordinary person but could bring 100 units of pleasure to a utility monster. If the utility monster can get so much pleasure from each unit of resources, it follows from utilitarianism that the distribution of resources should acknowledge this. If the utility monster existed, it would justify the mistreatment and perhaps annihilation of everyone else, according to the mandates of utilitarianism, because, for the utility monster, the pleasure it receives outweighs the suffering it may cause.
A hypothetical being, which Nozick calls the utility monster, receives much more utility from each unit of a resource that it consumes than anyone else does. For instance, eating a cookie might bring only one unit of pleasure to an ordinary person but could bring 100 units of pleasure to a utility monster. If the utility monster can get so much pleasure from each unit of resources, it follows from utilitarianism that the distribution of resources should acknowledge this. If the utility monster existed, it would justify the mistreatment and perhaps annihilation of everyone else, according to the mandates of utilitarianism, because, for the utility monster, the pleasure it receives outweighs the suffering it may cause.
the pleasure it receives outweighs the suffering it may cause.
, but like, WHY is the idea of pleasure from suffering baked (ha) into thisthe pleasure it receives outweighs the suffering it may cause.
, but like, WHY is the idea of pleasure from suffering baked (ha) into this @leijurv.com
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emails (edited)the "phd" is blurring two different things by talking about the "definition" of "water" as meaning either the english word or the concept
1. the clear splashy stuff that we drink has always been a molecule of three atoms, whether we knew it or not
2. the clear splashy stuff is called "w a t e r" in english
BrotherEyes — Today at 12:32 PM
The non vaush dude is a PhD it literally would be such an idiot move to say water is h20 therefore women are double X chromosomes
BrotherEyes — Today at 12:32 PM
The non vaush dude is a PhD it literally would be such an idiot move to say water is h20 therefore women are double X chromosomes
BrotherEyes — Today at 12:32 PM
The non vaush dude is a PhD it literally would be such an idiot move to say water is h20 therefore women are double X chromosomes
Brother leijurv — 01/19/2022 1:01 PM
so we have an indisputibly racist thing ("i only like white people, i don't have any black friends because i have a preference against black people") and a disputedly racist thing ("i only like white babies, i don't have any black babies because i have a preference against black babies") and the only difference between them is that todarac simply declares they are different because he doesn't like the idea that they are morally similar but he can't say why
Brother leijurv — 01/19/2022 1:01 PM
so we have an indisputibly racist thing ("i only like white people, i don't have any black friends because i have a preference against black people") and a disputedly racist thing ("i only like white babies, i don't have any black babies because i have a preference against black babies") and the only difference between them is that todarac simply declares they are different because he doesn't like the idea that they are morally similar but he can't say why
"people who have a personal preference about their kids skin color is racist"
(which is more or less accurate to what i believe), is bad because it takes away agencywanting a white baby is indeed, just as cringe as wanting a black baby
Sorry for not predicting what you will say, but im caught on this.
You think preference in general is cringe?Brother Todarac — 05/30/2022 7:27 PM
leijurv thinks its not racist for black people to have a preference to only dating other blacks, but thinks its "problematic" when white people do it
Brother leijurv — 05/30/2022 7:28 PM
I demand you link me to where I said this 😇
Brother Todarac — 05/30/2022 7:28 PM
you said it, YOU find it
bye
Brother leijurv — 05/30/2022 7:28 PM
One small problem: I didn't say it
Brother Todarac — 05/30/2022 7:28 PM
prove you didnt say it
Brother leijurv — 05/30/2022 7:29 PM
I've just now read through every message I've ever sent, and I didn't find it
Proof successful
Todarac resigned
Zaanga — 05/30/2022 7:29 PM
I dont believe u
prove it
Brother leijurv — 05/30/2022 7:29 PM
I just did it again and still didn't find it
this is circular logic
to a fuckton of people care about what their child will look like, and not all of them are racist
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I think this is where I think I just fundamentally disagree with everything you are saying right now. To me, this is just an extreme disconnect from reality on your side. Humans care about what their baby will look like. I am not even exclusively talking about skin color. I'm talking about hair, eyes, ears, mouth, their personality
Like this is just a dumb human ethos thing regarding their children, and I also think its a little disingenuous to compare your children to work buddies or potential customers
I think thats where Im at atmthis is circular logic
to a fuckton of people care about what their child will look like, and not all of them are racist
,
I think this is where I think I just fundamentally disagree with everything you are saying right now. To me, this is just an extreme disconnect from reality on your side. Humans care about what their baby will look like. I am not even exclusively talking about skin color. I'm talking about hair, eyes, ears, mouth, their personality
Like this is just a dumb human ethos thing regarding their children, and I also think its a little disingenuous to compare your children to work buddies or potential customers
I think thats where Im at atm this is circular logic
to a fuckton of people care about what their child will look like, and not all of them are racist
,
I think this is where I think I just fundamentally disagree with everything you are saying right now. To me, this is just an extreme disconnect from reality on your side. Humans care about what their baby will look like. I am not even exclusively talking about skin color. I'm talking about hair, eyes, ears, mouth, their personality
Like this is just a dumb human ethos thing regarding their children, and I also think its a little disingenuous to compare your children to work buddies or potential customers
I think thats where Im at atm this is circular logic
to a fuckton of people care about what their child will look like, and not all of them are racist
,
I think this is where I think I just fundamentally disagree with everything you are saying right now. To me, this is just an extreme disconnect from reality on your side. Humans care about what their baby will look like. I am not even exclusively talking about skin color. I'm talking about hair, eyes, ears, mouth, their personality
Like this is just a dumb human ethos thing regarding their children, and I also think its a little disingenuous to compare your children to work buddies or potential customers
I think thats where Im at atm "people i sleep with" -> "people i'm friends with" -> "people i'll interact with cordially" -> "people i'll be willing to share a society with"
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I really think this is the crux of your argument, and I seriously don't know if I agree with this characterization or not"people i sleep with" -> "people i'm friends with" -> "people i'll interact with cordially" -> "people i'll be willing to share a society with"
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I really think this is the crux of your argument, and I seriously don't know if I agree with this characterization or not people who I will have children with and spend the rest of my life with
✂️ "people i sleep with" "people i'm friends with" -> "people i'll interact with cordially" -> "people i'll be willing to share a society with"
predisqualifying any black person before even getting to know them from being your gf
idk what to say other than this is an inherently stronger position than what I actually believe, which is
https://discord.com/channels/343851086026637313/861294233897402418/1106688936857829427 this message
its even kind of funny that you said I was watering it downpredisqualifying any black person before even getting to know them from being your gf
idk what to say other than this is an inherently stronger position than what I actually believe, which is
https://discord.com/channels/343851086026637313/861294233897402418/1106688936857829427 this message
its even kind of funny that you said I was watering it down predisqualifying any black person before even getting to know them from being your gf