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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:31
never trust a mf who eats granny smith apples
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Brother Dectonic
never trust a mf who eats granny smith apples
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:31
I'll be 19 in 29 days :)
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My younger cousin pointed my gpa’s handgun directly at him when he turned to listen
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@Brother Todarac new joke alert when they say 16 just say there actual age
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Brother Dectonic
never trust a mf who eats granny smith apples
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Brother Dectonic
never trust a mf who eats granny smith apples
Brother Raaanch 02/05/2022 22:32
What do you mean?
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Brother Raaanch
What do you mean?
Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:32
For free?
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green apples are better then red.
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Thanks for the foot pic
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:32
thats right, dectonic turned 18 right around when he was initiated
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Adding to my collection
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:32
dec you've been in for almost a year now
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Brother Todarac
thats right, dectonic turned 18 right around when he was initiated
Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:32
Ranch: "Hes nice and ripe"
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Brother Raaanch
What do you mean?
#worshipful-feet-pics
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Brother Todarac
dec you've been in for almost a year now
Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:33
yeah...
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:33
green apples kick ass
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:33
too bad they dont suck drool_cat
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bro meow
#worshipful-feet-pics
Brother Raaanch 02/05/2022 22:33
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:33
I still stand by my fruit tier list
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also OMG
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History being made
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@Brother Entropy make worshipful feet pics public coward
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Brother Raaanch
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:34
jaw drops to floor, eyes pop out of sockets accompanied by trumpets, heart beats out of chest, awooga awooga sound effect, pulls chain on train whistle that has appeared next to head as steam blows out, slams fists on table, rattling any plates, bowls or silverware, whistles loudly, fireworks shoot from top of head, pants loudly as tongue hangs out of mouth, wipes comically large bead of sweat from forehead, clears throat, straightens tie, combs hair Ahem, you look very lovely.
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Brother Todarac
jaw drops to floor, eyes pop out of sockets accompanied by trumpets, heart beats out of chest, awooga awooga sound effect, pulls chain on train whistle that has appeared next to head as steam blows out, slams fists on table, rattling any plates, bowls or silverware, whistles loudly, fireworks shoot from top of head, pants loudly as tongue hangs out of mouth, wipes comically large bead of sweat from forehead, clears throat, straightens tie, combs hair Ahem, you look very lovely.
Brother Raaanch 02/05/2022 22:35
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joeseph stilton 02/05/2022 22:35
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:36
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:36
too many in A
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:36
expected from you (edited)
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:36
thats kind of a good roast actually ngl
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 22:36
link it
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:37
A bunch of fruits, all labeled for your convenience. I tried to include a lot of fruits, even some pretty obscure ones, but there are definitely still gonna be some that I missed, that's life.
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:37
replace D with F
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there needs to be an F tier
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:38
Pears are gross
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:38
kind of agree
22:38
weird texture
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Brother Raaanch 02/05/2022 22:38
YOURE BOTH GROSS
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I'm sorry...
22:38
I got heated.
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:38
i like pear flavored stuff tho
22:38
pear beer
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:38
Pear flavored stuff is worse
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:38
I mean if you like apple flavored stuff its kind of similar
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I'm so glad they brought back the like skittles
22:38
FUCK GREEN APPLE FLAVORING
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:39
so true
22:39
Happy with my list
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:39
valid list
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:40
yeah thats alright
22:40
grapes are overrated imo
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 22:40
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The green ones are for sure
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:40
ive never had any currant
22:40
I mean I probably have once but I dont remember
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:40
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:41
oh SHIT link that one
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If you dont remember it wasn’t anything special lol
22:41
incoming potat
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:41
i fucking hate gnocchi
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there I said it
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:41
@Brother Pint
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:41
THAT texture is fucking gross
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 22:42
its filling
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Brother Todarac
i fucking hate gnocchi
Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 22:42
todarac redpill HOW
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Brother Todarac
i fucking hate gnocchi
Frozen or restaurant prepared? Big difference
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 22:43
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 22:43
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Brother Todarac
i fucking hate gnocchi
who?
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 22:43
gnocchi is sooo good
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 22:43
how did this retard put mashed potatoes on f tier but potato salad on b
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brain damaged for sure
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Potat salad is better
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 22:43
because theyre not the same
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potat salad is yummy
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:44
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 22:44
mashed potatoes feels like eating diarrhea
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:44
TY
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AGREED
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Baked Sweet potato’s with CINNAMON and BUTTER (edited)
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S+++
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FUCK STEAK FRIES
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:45
SCALLOPED POTATOS IN F TIER???????????????????????????????
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f tier
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 22:45
creamy/liquidy mashed potatoes is nasty in my opinion but good mashed potatoes is good
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:45
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Never had them
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Brother Raaanch 02/05/2022 22:46
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Brother leijurv 02/05/2022 22:46
blueberry in C
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Брат Bird 02/05/2022 22:46
bluepill 2
thistbh 1
brownpill 1
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Brother leijurv 02/05/2022 22:46
i boil potatoes by sticking them up my ass
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cyanlime 3
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Brother leijurv
i boil potatoes by sticking them up my ass
Брат Bird 02/05/2022 22:46
S tier
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Ditch the casserole and make these twice baked sweet potatoes instead! They're topped with a dollop of butter, toasted pecans and a dash of cinnamon.
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Брат Bird 02/05/2022 22:49
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Mason moms tier list
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Like and subscribe for more mom reviews
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Brother leijurv 02/05/2022 22:51
landlords "provide" housing in the exact same way that scalper bots "provide" ps5s or gpus
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 22:51
GOOD point
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Брат Bird
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:51
this is actually kind of wholesome (or, heh, holesome)
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this fucking potato tier list thing has lit my entire group of friends on fire
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Brother Todarac
this is actually kind of wholesome (or, heh, holesome)
die
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:56
this fucking potato tier list thing has lit my entire group of friends on fire
22:56
everyone is arguing about potatos now
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Brother Todarac
this is actually kind of wholesome (or, heh, holesome)
die
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Брат Bird
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snugglebugaj 02/05/2022 22:56
cant wait to see where you put my mom on it
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the only way to comeback from a "ur mom" joke is to very seriously say "my mom is dead" and start crying
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 22:57
no
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thats the pussy route
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problem :smug pepe:
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Brother Nekramite 02/05/2022 22:58
ur dad
nooooo 1
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 22:58
the only chad way to comeback from a "my mom is dead" prank is to very seriously say "thats the way I prefer it" and smile
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Brother Todarac
the only chad way to comeback from a "my mom is dead" prank is to very seriously say "thats the way I prefer it" and smile
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:01
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@Bröther öats @Брат Bird roasted
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probably a few other orange cat masons in here but I forgor
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ive had both orange and black cat
GigaChad 1
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both are also dead
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Brother Todarac
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:02
this just shows how much more fun orange cats are
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self own, really
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:02
black cat pfp btw
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:02
team black cat embarrassing itself
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:02
im pretty much always correct
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:02
hava
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nagila hava
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nagila hava
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:03
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redpill 1
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Brother Todarac
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:04
BASED DAD
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dark side of the moon is always such a vibe
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"Brah, and then you get to Brain Damage, right? And THEN you don't even notice that it transitions to Eclipse.. it's so seamless brah, you gotta listen to Dark Side of The Moon."
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Brother Todarac
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:06
nothing about this is contradictory
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you cant sue a private company for violating your 1st amendment rights
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cope alert
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elon is your overlord now, praise him
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:07
haha private companies can do whatever they want, but you will bake the fucking cake, bigot, or else
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:07
doesnt the 1st amendment only apply to government authorities lmao
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Brother Todarac
haha private companies can do whatever they want, but you will bake the fucking cake, bigot, or else
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:07
no they can refuse to thats ok
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:08
i swear that the first amendment is the simplest yet most misinterpreted law of all time (edited)
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america moment
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Brother Todarac
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someone should tell him to "go make your own twitter"
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:08
there is no other platform similar to twitter, and the level of control it can have over the population is large, which raises the question of is it right for a billionaire to buy it because he's salty that his partner had sex witha a trans woman
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Teamspeak Is Better
there is no other platform similar to twitter, and the level of control it can have over the population is large, which raises the question of is it right for a billionaire to buy it because he's salty that his partner had sex witha a trans woman
this argument was frequently ignored for years when conservatives complained about a select few people who tend to skew left controlling various social media companies, and every time they where told "go make your own twitter" "go make your own YouTube" "go make your own PayPal" (even though when they did there where also attempts to shut them down and hack them, see Parler and Gab.ai) and now its flipped to a more conservatives owner, suddenly leftists care about small groups of people controlling social media
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big bro chacho
america moment
Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:10
mainly because most european countries dont have it trollv2 you can get arrested for saying way more over there
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muh freedom, american flag, guns, etc
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yee haw
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USA
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Zaanga
this argument was frequently ignored for years when conservatives complained about a select few people who tend to skew left controlling various social media companies, and every time they where told "go make your own twitter" "go make your own YouTube" "go make your own PayPal" (even though when they did there where also attempts to shut them down and hack them, see Parler and Gab.ai) and now its flipped to a more conservatives owner, suddenly leftists care about small groups of people controlling social media
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:12
classic conservative smoothbrain moment
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Brother Todarac
mainly because most european countries dont have it trollv2 you can get arrested for saying way more over there
big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:12
not here lol
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u must be thinking of germany
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they have the most retarded censorship there
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:12
is it right for a billionaire to buy it because he's salty that his partner had sex with a a trans woman wait I just read this lmao, kelv you dont actually think this is true right
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(brochacho i was actually thinking of england kek)
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:13
why else would he buy twitter
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:13
LOL
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ah yes, why else
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Teamspeak Is Better
classic conservative smoothbrain moment
>call it smoothbrain >Refuse to elaborate on why
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:13
omg im typing
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people arent worried about right wingers saying their political beliefs the problem is that people who INCITE VIOLENCE (on both the left and the right) will (maybe we dont know) be unbanned and allowed to futher spew this rehtoric, allowing the normalisation of violence against certain groups of people
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:14
people who make targeted threats will always be banned, no matter what side of the aisle you're on
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:14
leftist groups have been doing it for years
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Teamspeak Is Better
people arent worried about right wingers saying their political beliefs the problem is that people who INCITE VIOLENCE (on both the left and the right) will (maybe we dont know) be unbanned and allowed to futher spew this rehtoric, allowing the normalisation of violence against certain groups of people
LOL (edited)
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:14
>says lol
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>refuses to elaborate why
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yup 😎
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:15
inciting violence is based if its against people i dont like
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I can guarantee you people who incite violence have and will be banned
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:15
so will donald trump remain banned?
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:15
kelv unironically believes the political cartoon / meme of "we want rights" from the left and "we want to kill trans" from the right, even though thats such a stupid take
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:15
ok well the only people who want to make my life easier arent on the right
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:16
ok well the only people who want to make my life easier arent on the left
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yea bro elon will just let people say "I want to kill transgender people" on twitter all day along
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male)
ok well the only people who want to make my life easier arent on the left
Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:16
I do actually agree with you on this subject, but its kind of a different conversation of "people should be allowed to speak freely on the internet"
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specifically, targeted threats and calls to violence will be banned, no matter what, regardless of who says it (or, should)
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but other than that it should be free game
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:17
where was elon when i virtually blew up a building in minecraft
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:17
elon musk x 5c collab
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Brother Todarac
specifically, targeted threats and calls to violence will be banned, no matter what, regardless of who says it (or, should)
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:17
The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly paradoxical idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance.
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:17
mothra is that you
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fuck
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big bro chacho
elon musk x 5c collab
Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:17
herm will make this happen
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go ahead idiot do the mason tier list
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@Brother Todarac @big bro chacho @Брат Bird
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:17
literally who are any of these people
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@Sister Пепси Мальчик (male)
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:17
do discord icons
23:17
i dont know any of these
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hell no
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:17
omfg lol ufo
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bro meow
@Brother Todarac @big bro chacho @Брат Bird
big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:18
bet
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:18
I cant believe you just made this
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Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:18
pepsi too bad for you that you never play
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:18
who knows peoples skins
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alex is 0x steve is futsin
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:18
I will admit that I dont recognize like 3-4 of these
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but thats it
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:18
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iron gets s for super straight
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Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:19
makes sense
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:19
lol
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:19
even though i dont play in game i am probably one of the most significant contributors to the spawnmasons, many people have been saying this
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:19
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Brother Todarac
specifically, targeted threats and calls to violence will be banned, no matter what, regardless of who says it (or, should)
people actually believe is just going to let people say "kill jews" on twitter lol
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Zaanga
people actually believe is just going to let people say "kill jews" on twitter lol
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:19
yes i do
Sticker
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:19
who are the ones with the xes
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and this guy
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:19
bottom left is p5
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big bro chacho
and this guy
Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:19
pint
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Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:19
how do you not recognise smcz
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fail
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:19
who is smcz
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oh
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:20
we get it pepsi, you stopped paying attention years ago
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:20
fail squared
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:20
trollv2
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:20
he needs to engage in retarded debates so i can notice him
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top left is enigma
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:21
who is the white one?
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wait its anndroid
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okay whos blue
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:21
blue man is me
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:21
what!
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okay
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heres futsins version
redpill 3
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Teamspeak Is Better
yes i do
well I dont what to say to that take, except like learn to think more logically lol. Obv Elon isnt going to let literal Nazis talk about killing jewish people on Twitter.
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Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:22
legendary ballgag
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i cant believe fit would censor this
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:22
i will change my skin when i get my new laptop
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:22
I feel bad about ranking friends now
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Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:22
thats why i dont
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Brother Todarac
I feel bad about ranking friends now
go ahead post it :D
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Zaanga
well I dont what to say to that take, except like learn to think more logically lol. Obv Elon isnt going to let literal Nazis talk about killing jewish people on Twitter.
Now he will prop let people have spicy opinions that you may feel uncomfortable with. But not direct calls for violence.
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Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:23
are you just talking to yourself
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Zaanga
well I dont what to say to that take, except like learn to think more logically lol. Obv Elon isnt going to let literal Nazis talk about killing jewish people on Twitter.
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:23
okay well he's described himself as a "free speech absolutist" so idk what that means apart from that
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you can say a lot of twitter
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:23
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zaanga debate
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:23
redpill 2
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Zaanga
Now he will prop let people have spicy opinions that you may feel uncomfortable with. But not direct calls for violence.
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:23
"spicy" opinions like jews arent people?
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Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:23
super straight
redpill 1
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:23
or does that not cross the line?
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:24
its the left that hates jews now mate
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we stand with israel on the right
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rating spawnmasons > talking about cringelon
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:24
which one is 0x on this list
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alex
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:24
oh you said it earlier gotcha
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Teamspeak Is Better
okay well he's described himself as a "free speech absolutist" so idk what that means apart from that
it means that atleast in theory, you will be allowed to say whatever opinions you want on twitter so long as its not calls to violence or illegal stuff like CP. In the context of twitter, this means you won't get banned for having a opinion that traditionally would have gotten you banned (learn to code meme comes to mind)
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please follow this message
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Teamspeak Is Better
"spicy" opinions like jews arent people?
spicy like transgenderism is a mental illness, or donald trump won the election
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:25
i still hate elon for all the other cringe stuff he does but buying twitter is an epic owning of the libs and i hope he wastes more of his money to own more libs
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not lets kill jewish peopled
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:25
donald trump winning isnt spicy its factual
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Zaanga
spicy like transgenderism is a mental illness, or donald trump won the election
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:25
those aren't spicy they're just spreading misinformation, most of which is done by russia
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:26
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Teamspeak Is Better
those aren't spicy they're just spreading misinformation, most of which is done by russia
cope
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Brother Dectonic
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based
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:26
so you want russia to actively de-stabilize the west?
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"anything I disagree with is russia"
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:26
go to pets channel
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:26
"anything" yes such as being trans is a mental illness and trump won the election lol
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:26
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:26
very large sample size there
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:27
trans being a mental illness is not created by russia lol
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delusion mode
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Brother Todarac
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I KNEW YOU LOVED ME
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:27
where did i say create
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:27
Why would I scare you
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Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:27
no
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:27
Why would I scare you
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:27
😂
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:27
Why would I scare you
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:27
REPEAT YOURSELF
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REPEAT YOURSELF
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:27
says the one who is repeating themselves
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:29
CURIOUS!
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:29
I'm less active 😦
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Teamspeak Is Better
those aren't spicy they're just spreading misinformation, most of which is done by russia
they still are opinions, even if rUsSiA or whatever boogy man you want created them
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:29
I have only built 4 things at the current base
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Zaanga
they still are opinions, even if rUsSiA or whatever boogy man you want created them
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:29
okay well i believe in facts not opinions (edited)
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ßrother LordNo.
I'm less active 😦
Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:29
cat_pleading_innocent pepelove
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you can hold a opinion thats wrong, the point is you wont be banned for holding it
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:30
its okay lordno I put myself in that category at first
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but then I had to be part of the kitten crew
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:30
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:30
lol
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joeseph stilton 02/05/2022 23:30
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:30
LOL DEC
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:30
I'm literally in the original masonic kitten video
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Zaanga
you can hold a opinion thats wrong, the point is you wont be banned for holding it
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:30
you mean banned for trying to convince others that that wrong opinion is actually fact?
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:30
dec you missed a few germans
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Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:30
just a few
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:30
you missed a lot
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ultra based
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:30
why are you all for misinformation, unless you agree with the misinformation?
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put all the english with the germans @Brother Dectonic
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Brother Todarac
dec you missed a few germans
Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:31
please report to me which ones I missed
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Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:31
all of them
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:31
yes round them up
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:31
cba
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:31
salem witch trials but German edition
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Brother Dectonic
please report to me which ones I missed
iron
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:31
your brand is what other think
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:31
wait nvm its just iron
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Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:32
my coworker passed by when i was looking for sadam hussein at work
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:32
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Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:32
and they looked weird
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:32
updated
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:32
look zanga bro i get it, you are sad that your "opinions" aren't facts, and that you have to get someone to pay $44 billion just so you can force other people to hear those shitty opinions 🤣
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if this is such a good and popular idea why dont people actually use parlor or other twitter alternatives
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Teamspeak Is Better
why are you all for misinformation, unless you agree with the misinformation?
because "Misinformation" is just applied to whatever the admins disagree with. For example in the early days of COVID, the idea that it came from a Chinese bio lab was considered "Misinformation, hate speech against Asians, whatever" but now there is actually decent discussion and some proof that it could be real. So people who said it was from a lab where banned, when they could be correct. is that right ?
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Teamspeak Is Better
look zanga bro i get it, you are sad that your "opinions" aren't facts, and that you have to get someone to pay $44 billion just so you can force other people to hear those shitty opinions 🤣
I did not buy twitter lol
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idk what ur talking about
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or ask elon too
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Zaanga
because "Misinformation" is just applied to whatever the admins disagree with. For example in the early days of COVID, the idea that it came from a Chinese bio lab was considered "Misinformation, hate speech against Asians, whatever" but now there is actually decent discussion and some proof that it could be real. So people who said it was from a lab where banned, when they could be correct. is that right ?
Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:34
lol some proof
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:34
you dont need billions for shitty opinions on twitter, there were already an ocean of them before the deal too
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:34
Johnny harris
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:34
also, don't blame the guy buying twitter, blame the guy selling.
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Zaanga
because "Misinformation" is just applied to whatever the admins disagree with. For example in the early days of COVID, the idea that it came from a Chinese bio lab was considered "Misinformation, hate speech against Asians, whatever" but now there is actually decent discussion and some proof that it could be real. So people who said it was from a lab where banned, when they could be correct. is that right ?
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:34
just because someone was racist and then by coincidence managed to be correct doesnt mean they were correct in the first place
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:34
capitalism works both ways
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Teamspeak Is Better
just because someone was racist and then by coincidence managed to be correct doesnt mean they were correct in the first place
so you admit people where banned over something that was correct ? lmao
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ministry of truth alert
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:35
how is it racist to say it came from china...? or a lab??
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:35
if you dont follow rules you get banned
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im racist
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Brother Todarac
how is it racist to say it came from china...? or a lab??
ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:35
when you say it because the thought originated from internal racism. It becomes racist
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:35
omg you're actually stupid, if i call a black man a criminal for no reason that would be slander and show my bias, if however 6 months later it turns out that man did actually have a criminal background that wouldnt have made my initial statement less "bad"
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bro meow
im racist
joeseph stilton 02/05/2022 23:36
what if we were racist togehter pleading_face_BOLD 👉 👈
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:36
when you say it because you have a great deal of empirical data to back the claim up, it is logical
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:36
what lord no said
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:36
people didnt say it came from china for no reason
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joeseph stilton
what if we were racist togehter pleading_face_BOLD 👉 👈
i can tell some racist jokes by the campfire :D
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joeseph stilton 02/05/2022 23:36
😄
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oops wrong reply mlol
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:36
where was the proof they knew it was made in a lab
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:36
fucking cold war part 2
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watch the video I sent
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or just continue to ignore
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:37
YEAH TODAY
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:37
If you think that covid was made in a lab you have to be baiting
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joeseph stilton 02/05/2022 23:37
Wuhan flu fast vincent video will explain all the lore
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:37
HOW DID THEY KNOW THAT WHEN COVID FIRST HAPPENED
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:37
whether or not there is proof now. there was not proof then
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:37
news flash, they didnt
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:37
the statement was made out of expecting the worst of chinese people
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which is racist
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:37
just dont eat bat soup
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lmfao
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Teamspeak Is Better
omg you're actually stupid, if i call a black man a criminal for no reason that would be slander and show my bias, if however 6 months later it turns out that man did actually have a criminal background that wouldnt have made my initial statement less "bad"
Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:38
sorry im still stuck on this. how is it racist to call a black person a criminal if he is literally a criminal? This treatment shouldnt matter on what race you are
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Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:38
he was not before
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or nobody knew it
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so there was nothing to go on
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:38
todarac racist
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ßrother LordNo.
whether or not there is proof now. there was not proof then
well because the president was pushing that as a possibility (you know the man that has intelligence access with the CIA and DOD) and the fact that Wuhan is home to the CCP's biggest bio lab, with China showing historically its been willing to lie and cover up failures, ya know just a wild guess thats totally actually just me not liking asians
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:38
its a genuine question, im not trying to be racist
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Brother Todarac
sorry im still stuck on this. how is it racist to call a black person a criminal if he is literally a criminal? This treatment shouldnt matter on what race you are
ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:38
If you call them a criminal because you expect them to be one because they are black, with no other proof, then that is racist. Even if you end up being correct in the end.
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:38
todarac if i just met you and called you a racist, and you eventually in 2 years was found out to be a racist that wouldnt make my first statement "based on truth" or correct
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Brother Todarac
its a genuine question, im not trying to be racist
Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:38
exactly what a racist would say
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:39
do you get what i mean
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just because something you said was true doesnt mean you said it because it was true
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Zaanga
well because the president was pushing that as a possibility (you know the man that has intelligence access with the CIA and DOD) and the fact that Wuhan is home to the CCP's biggest bio lab, with China showing historically its been willing to lie and cover up failures, ya know just a wild guess thats totally actually just me not liking asians
ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:39
"pushing a possibility" is literally slander.
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:39
I sort of get what you mean, but wouldnt that just.. validate what you said from 2 years before? and you were the first one to call it out?
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:39
sure
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Zaanga
well because the president was pushing that as a possibility (you know the man that has intelligence access with the CIA and DOD) and the fact that Wuhan is home to the CCP's biggest bio lab, with China showing historically its been willing to lie and cover up failures, ya know just a wild guess thats totally actually just me not liking asians
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:40
you're a conservative so there's a probability you're racist, im just gonna "Push that probability" on twitter
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ßrother LordNo.
"pushing a possibility" is literally slander.
Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:40
so true
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:40
but being right doesnt remove your racism
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:40
so true
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:40
it may validate your racism
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and make you more racist
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Teamspeak Is Better
just because something you said was true doesnt mean you said it because it was true
Racism is contextual
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:40
if you say "blacks commit violence", ok, thats true, but that statement is still racist
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Teamspeak Is Better
you're a conservative so there's a probability you're racist, im just gonna "Push that probability" on twitter
well thats your own problem for pushing your idea that they are racist, just making assumptions
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Racism is contextual
ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:40
this this this. and context is limited in time scope.
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big bro chacho
if you say "blacks commit violence", ok, thats true, but that statement is still racist
Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:41
whites commit violence
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Zaanga
well thats your own problem for pushing your idea that they are racist, just making assumptions
Brother Entropy 02/05/2022 23:41
isnt this literally what he is accusing you of
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:41
did I just say something racist
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and so people should not be banned because "you have a hunch" they are "probably" racist
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Brother Todarac
did I just say something racist
ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:41
that depends
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joeseph stilton 02/05/2022 23:41
Todarac lets go commit hate crimes (in minecraft)
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Zaanga
well thats your own problem for pushing your idea that they are racist, just making assumptions
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:41
try thinking logically
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imagine being banned because you "probably" did something wrong lol
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:41
If I commit a hate crime against an asian person am I racist? I wonder
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joeseph stilton
Todarac lets go commit hate crimes (in minecraft)
voco are all thugs
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:42
you missed the point so hard it hurts
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:42
mothra change your name, its giving me an aneurysm at the bottom
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lol
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:42
dont change it
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:42
dec you really are just a stream of consciousness
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:42
so you think on twitter i should be allowed to accuse you of being a pedophile?
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there was valid reasons to suspect that COVID came from a chinese lab even early on in the pandemic, but according to Kelvi its good people where banned over saying something thats possibly true because they where "probably, maybe" racist
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Brother Todarac
dec you really are just a stream of consciousness
Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:43
your leg itches
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your leg itches
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your leg itches
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Zaanga
there was valid reasons to suspect that COVID came from a chinese lab even early on in the pandemic, but according to Kelvi its good people where banned over saying something thats possibly true because they where "probably, maybe" racist
ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:43
your argument is hollow because you are not taking into consideration the rest of each of these people's tweets
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Brother Dectonic
your leg itches
Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:43
THE ANTS ARENT ON THE WALL, THEY ARE BEHIND YOUR EYES, CLAW THEM OUT
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THE ANTS ARENT ON THE WALL, THEY ARE BEHIND YOUR EYES, CLAW THEM OUT
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THE ANTS ARENT ON THE WALL, THEY ARE BEHIND YOUR EYES, CLAW THEM OUT
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:43
they're not
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I've checked
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:43
I don't have the proof on me, nor do I care to find it. But if they were banned I am going to bet that they didnt just say one thing maybe racist
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they probably said lots of things lots of racist
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Zaanga
there was valid reasons to suspect that COVID came from a chinese lab even early on in the pandemic, but according to Kelvi its good people where banned over saying something thats possibly true because they where "probably, maybe" racist
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:44
so you think on twitter i should be allowed to accuse you of being a pedophile? because its possibly true and is "probably, maybe" damaging?
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ßrother LordNo.
your argument is hollow because you are not taking into consideration the rest of each of these people's tweets
thats not how bans work, its a tweet by tweet basis. Or atleast should be. otherwise your trying to make a profile out of someone on whatever random opinions they give online, which obv doesnt show the nuances of their lives and opinions
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:44
I think Zaanga is trying to hide the fact that he was banned from Twitter for being racist
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:44
zaanga dodging my reply
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Teamspeak Is Better
so you think on twitter i should be allowed to accuse you of being a pedophile? because its possibly true and is "probably, maybe" damaging?
yes but any logical person would not take the allegation seriously without evidence
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so it doesnt matter
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so you think on twitter i should be allowed to accuse you of being a pedophile? because its possibly true and is "probably, maybe" damaging?
Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:45
yes you should be allowed to accuse someone of anything. If there is no proof, you're just wrong and stupid, but you should be legally allowed to be a fucktard
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Zaanga
yes but any logical person would not take the allegation seriously without evidence
ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:45
incorrect
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:45
Twitter allows porn Twitter doesnt allow racism Seems pretty good to me
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Zaanga
yes but any logical person would not take the allegation seriously without evidence
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:45
okay so if i phoned your work and told them you were a pedo they would be ok with that?
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mfw im zaanga and cant be racist on twitter 😿
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:45
or if you work starting recieving hundreds of tweets calling you a pedophile they'd be like "this is ok!!"?
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:45
any sane workplace would be like "okay do you have proof?"
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Teamspeak Is Better
okay so if i phoned your work and told them you were a pedo they would be ok with that?
sure
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:45
ugh
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:45
zaanga is a pedo sympathizer
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:45
kelv
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Zaanga
sure
Big LOL
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:46
kelv I literally dont get your point atm. you need proof for any of this to work
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:46
exactly
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:46
I've learned not to give people ridiculous hypotheticals because they will double down
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:46
you need proof for why the lab in china made covid
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:46
its a lessons I learned dealing with my kids
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you gotta stay in the real
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:46
well its not a ridiculous hypothetical, it has actually happened
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:46
not to him though
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:46
covid was made by your mom
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:46
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:47
very good meme brochacho, we'll hang that on the fridge for you
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:47
Fuck you ginger
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:47
im very proud of the meme you just made
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:47
I did not make it, i stole it
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ßrother LordNo. 02/05/2022 23:47
its amazing the difference a year can make eh?
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ßrother LordNo.
its amazing the difference a year can make eh?
big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:47
Fuck you
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the whole point is banning over "Misinformation" is ridiculously because A your banning someone over something that may well be true, especially when its a evolving story(Like COVID) and B because in Kelvi's case, he want us to try to read between the lines and ban people based off intentions the person maybe might have
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:48
LOL
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ßrother LordNo.
its amazing the difference a year can make eh?
Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:48
oh my god im dying
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:48
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:48
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:48
ITS DANNY PHANTOM
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HES A PHANTOM
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WHAT THE FUCK IS DANNY FENTON
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joeseph stilton 02/05/2022 23:48
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:48
WTF STOP
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joeseph stilton 02/05/2022 23:48
u r bird
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flightless
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:48
jk i laff'd
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:48
Fenton is his original name dipshit
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Brother Todarac
WTF STOP
Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:48
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:49
wait really
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did I just get out-lored on danny fucking phantom
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:49
Yes
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And i have never watched it
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Get FUCKED
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This page is for Danny Phantom (character), the character. For other uses, see Danny Phantom (disambiguation).
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:49
never watched it, but its mid
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Zaanga
the whole point is banning over "Misinformation" is ridiculously because A your banning someone over something that may well be true, especially when its a evolving story(Like COVID) and B because in Kelvi's case, he want us to try to read between the lines and ban people based off intentions the person maybe might have
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:49
yes people should be banned if they intentions of spreading misinformation are harmful. misinformation is a toxic plague on our society and only prevents us from achieving a more peaceful and prosperous society
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there is no good argument for allowing misinformation, it only acts to >misinform people
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:50
Omg discord sucks with wiki links
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I swear to god
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also btw at least for Facebook, the "Fact check" In court Facebook classified them as opinion pieces, so it really makes you wonder if other "Fact checks" and banning over misinformation also has problems of other social media's (Like twitter)
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:50
"Daniel[12] "Danny" Fenton, also known by his alias Danny Phantom, is the titular protagonist of the television series Danny Phantom."
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Teamspeak Is Better
yes people should be banned if they intentions of spreading misinformation are harmful. misinformation is a toxic plague on our society and only prevents us from achieving a more peaceful and prosperous society
again your just assuming people's intentions
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Zaanga
again your just assuming people's intentions
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:50
okay all misinformation should be removed
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based off pre conceived profiles you have of people
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like "reee conseratives are racist"
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zaangas face when he can't misinform people (it's a private company)
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Sticker
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Zaanga
based off pre conceived profiles you have of people
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:51
no based on each tweet that has misinformation in it
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:51
zaanga when he is called a racist for being racist
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:51
your problem isnt with twitter banning people / removing posts for misinformation its with the process they establish things as misinformation
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zaangas face when he can't misinform people (it's a private company)
its Kelvi thats coping that twitter is going to allow "misinformation" (its a private company)
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:52
>me points out how this is damaging for society
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zaanga> WHOO YEAH EAT SHIT NOW I WONT GET BANNED
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:52
where is the proof that it came from a lab though
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if there isnt proof of it coming from the lab then its racist
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:52
I just use Twitter for memes and porn why do y'all care
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:52
chad
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Brother Dectonic
zaanga when he is called a racist for being racist
Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:52
zaanga hasn't actually said anything racist, if he did, point it out
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big bro chacho
I just use Twitter for memes and porn why do y'all care
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:53
i dont
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Brother Dectonic
where is the proof that it came from a lab though
maybe if people watched the video I sent then it woudlnt be a problem
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:53
Anyone who actually uses twitter for politics is braindamaged (edited)
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Brother Dectonic
where is the proof that it came from a lab though
Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:53
he linked the proof in the video
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Zaanga
maybe if people watched the video I sent then it woudlnt be a problem
Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:53
nobody is going to watch a video
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:53
you guys are focusing on the wrong things
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:53
nobody is going to watch it if you tell them to watch it constantly
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Brother Dectonic
nobody is going to watch a video
>WHERES THE PROOF >refuses to watch
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:53
you can just say the proof yourself
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:53
Quick someone post black gay porn to disrupt the debate
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:54
lgbtmason 3
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:54
heres the proof it was made in a lab in china: (-_-) china (o_o) normal
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:54
What the spawnmasons really do
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:54
heres the proof it was made in a lab in china: (-_-) china (o_o) normal
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:54
racism
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heres the proof it was made in a lab in china: (-_-) china (o_o) normal
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:54
elon wants it
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:54
Misinformation is bad are harmful to our society, a tweet containing misinformation should therefore be removed, what is classed as "misinformation" should be done through a transparent process and have an appeals process, it's really that simple
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:54
heres the proof it was made in a lab in china: (-_-) china (o_o) normal
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:55
dectonic when he calls every single action someone does racist [very fsat running gif]
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:55
fsat
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:55
Twitter
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Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:55
yeah why are brazilians so racist wtf
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:55
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:55
Bro dont even get me started, i have met so many Brazilians with hitler quotes and shit in their profile and theyre brown as poop
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I'm racist against British people
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big bro chacho
Bro dont even get me started, i have met so many Brazilians with hitler quotes and shit in their profile and theyre brown as poop
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:56
only stupid people are racist
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 02/05/2022 23:56
thesheergenius aka sheerthegamer aka sheer14, internet white supremacist who pretends to be brown egyptian but in reality is brown mexican (edited)
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Misinformation is bad are harmful to our society, a tweet containing misinformation should therefore be removed, what is classed as "misinformation" should be done through a transparent process and have an appeals process, it's really that simple
so what happens if someone's misinformation turns out to be correct ?
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Zaanga
so what happens if someone's misinformation turns out to be correct ?
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:56
>have an appeals process
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thesheergenius aka sheerthegamer aka sheer14, internet white supremacist who pretends to be brown egyptian but in reality is brown mexican (edited)
big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:56
Wow big difference, latino brown vs African brown
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those work?
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:56
Actually id rather be latino because that makes me less related to aholic
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I thought you were latino (edited)
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Teamspeak Is Better
>have an appeals process
seems kinda dumb to ban people, only just to unban them later based off whatever the latest academics say (keep in mind science can take years) (edited)
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:57
I'm 11% black
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:57
No I'm iberian, latinos are those who live in latin america
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Teamspeak Is Better
Misinformation is bad are harmful to our society, a tweet containing misinformation should therefore be removed, what is classed as "misinformation" should be done through a transparent process and have an appeals process, it's really that simple
Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:57
kelv no offense but this sounds like a fucking nightmare world, where every thought and idea has to go through some BS bureaucracy or red tape. Like, no, just let people say shit, jesus christ
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:57
I'm latin european, i guess
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Brother Todarac
kelv no offense but this sounds like a fucking nightmare world, where every thought and idea has to go through some BS bureaucracy or red tape. Like, no, just let people say shit, jesus christ
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:57
ideas arent misinformation
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:57
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Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:57
misinformation >Misinformation is incorrect or misleading information presented as fact,[1] either intentionally or unintentionally
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The appeals processes doesn’t even work properly
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Twitter mods gets to decide whats true and what isnt
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:58
Guys can we try harder to derail this conversation
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:58
just spread misinformation
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:58
Its getting boring (edited)
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:58
lets start talking about abortion
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Zaanga
Twitter mods gets to decide whats true and what isnt
become a Twitter mod then
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The appeals processes doesn’t even work properly
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:58
>transparent process
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become a Twitter mod then
so true
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Brother Dectonic
lets start talking about abortion
abortion up to the age 18 should be legal
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Zaanga
Twitter mods gets to decide whats true and what isnt
Teamspeak Is Better 02/05/2022 23:58
>what is classed as "misinformation" should be done through a transparent process and have an appeals process
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:58
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Freddy fazber
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Praising freddy fazbear
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Brother Dectonic 02/05/2022 23:59
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On twitter?
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I mean good luck
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:59
How every man sleeps thinking about the time they tried sucking their dick
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Teamspeak Is Better
misinformation >Misinformation is incorrect or misleading information presented as fact,[1] either intentionally or unintentionally
Brother Todarac 02/05/2022 23:59
no one intentionally spreads misinformation, probably 99 out of 100 are all unintentional, because no one but internet trolls go around to purposefully lie to see what happens. What this really implies is "we are allowed to take down your speech if we disagree with you"
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>what is classed as "misinformation" should be done through a transparent process and have an appeals process
again every single truth claim has to go through a twitter bureaucracy to decide its true or not lol.
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big bro chacho 02/05/2022 23:59
So true
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Brother Todarac
no one intentionally spreads misinformation, probably 99 out of 100 are all unintentional, because no one but internet trolls go around to purposefully lie to see what happens. What this really implies is "we are allowed to take down your speech if we disagree with you"
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:00
Will Russia’s propaganda campaign continue to work on its citizens and others? Or will the lies fall apart?
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:00
Show me your bobs, missus. Vegane as well, my queen
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:00
Disinformation experts say they have already seen a concerted effort to push a false narrative around the reasons for invading Ukraine — and that more is on the way.
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interesting
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 00:00
this guy linked slate the guardian and nbc
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:00
but i thought no-one spreads misinformation??!1!!?!?
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:00
are you really pointing out state-led propaganda as an example of spreading misinformation on twitter
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okay kelv
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:00
Russian "misinformation" is actually western misinformation by the nazi fasicst elite to cover up for nazi ukraine (edited)
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Sorry John Snow, but your claim that Cholera can spread through feces does not meet our current understanding, banned lol
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:01
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(even though he was correct)
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imagine believing in misinformation I only believe in mrinformation
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Zaanga
Sorry John Snow, but your claim that Cholera can spread through feces does not meet our current understanding, banned lol
Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:01
this is the past that the radical left wants
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(men rule)
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Brother Todarac
are you really pointing out state-led propaganda as an example of spreading misinformation on twitter
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:01
todarac when state propaganda is misinformation (it is, that is literally the definition)
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:01
we're talking about twitter you fucking egg
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:01
STATES HAVE TWITTERS
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:01
RUSSIA HAS A TWITTER
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:02
Me after a long day of being hateful and spreading misinformation
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:02
IT TWEETS MISINFORMATION
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til states have Twitter
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Brother Entropy 03/05/2022 00:02
its an interesting lead tho just sad that your proof says its not proof
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no one says u have to believe and trust russian twitter Kelvi
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:02
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:02
imagine falling for misinformation by your government (the people you're supposed to trust) LOL
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Zaanga
no one says u have to believe and trust russian twitter Kelvi
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:03
the problem is idiots like you do PES_Clown for example you believe the video that clearly says "this is not proof" as being proof
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:03
kelv in 1944 b lik: WE NEED TO CENSOR US NEWSPAPERS BECAUSE THE GERMAN NEWSPAPERS ARE SAYING THEY ARE ACTUALLY WINNING THE WAR
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:03
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kelv in 1944 b lik: WE NEED TO CENSOR US NEWSPAPERS BECAUSE THE GERMAN NEWSPAPERS ARE SAYING THEY ARE ACTUALLY WINNING THE WAR
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:03
why didnt they circulate german newspapers in the usa then???
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:03
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Teamspeak Is Better
the problem is idiots like you do PES_Clown for example you believe the video that clearly says "this is not proof" as being proof
is what he said not enough to put the idea out there without being banned lol
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:04
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Brother Entropy 03/05/2022 00:04
you said it was proof
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Teamspeak Is Better
why didnt they circulate german newspapers in the usa then???
Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:04
uh, because people would have immediately believed them, duh
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Brother Todarac
uh, because people would have immediately believed them, duh
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:04
this but unironically
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:04
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:04
lol kelv
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you are so silly sometimes
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:04
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:04
so silly haha
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your fault for being a retard believing everything you read online lol
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:04
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:04
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sounds like Kelvi believes everyone is just so stupid and will simply believe everything they read on Twitter.
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Zaanga
your fault for being a retard believing everything you read online lol
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:05
you litterally believe covid was created in a lab because you read a youtube title 🤣
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:05
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Zaanga
sounds like Kelvi believes everyone is just so stupid and will simply believe everything they read on Twitter.
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:05
well clearly you do
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Teamspeak Is Better
you litterally believe covid was created in a lab because you read a youtube title 🤣
ive watchted the video
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Teamspeak Is Better
well clearly you do
lol
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Brother Entropy 03/05/2022 00:05
then why did you say there was proof
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:05
hes better than you because he watched the video
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:05
i didnt watch the video, its mid
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:05
okay calling any youtube video "proof" is a bit of a stretch
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:05
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:05
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you feel that Twitter should "protect" people from "false ideas" im saying let people decide what they choose to believe (insert we are not the same meme)
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:06
"Historically, people have relied on journalists and other information professionals to relay facts and truths.[33] Many different things cause miscommunication but the underlying factor is information literacy. Because information is distributed by various means, it is often hard for users to ask questions of credibility. Many online sources of misinformation use techniques to fool users into thinking their sites are legitimate and the information they generate is factual. Often misinformation can be politically motivated.[34] For example, websites such as USConservativeToday.com have posted false information for political and monetary gain.[35] Another role misinformation serves is to distract the public eye from negative information about a given person and/or issues of policy.[27] Aside from political and financial gain, misinformation can also be spread unintentionally. "
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Misinformation is incorrect or misleading information presented as fact, either intentionally or unintentionally. Disinformation is a subset of misinformation, that which is deliberately deceptive. Rumors are information not attributed to any particular source, and so are unreliable and often unverified, but can turn out to be either true or fal...
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I believe if you're on the internet you should get bullied
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:06
we need to ban free speech so people like kelv don't get exposed to wrong information that they will immediately believe
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idc about Leijurv article
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What if observing twitter dummies is my main source of entertainment?
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Brother Entropy 03/05/2022 00:06
zaanga would you allow the stories that you should drink disinfectant to be safe from covid?
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yes
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Brother Entropy
zaanga would you allow the stories that you should drink disinfectant to be safe from covid?
yea sure,
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:06
holy retard
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:07
it should be ALLOWED
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:07
it doesnt make it correct
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if you are retarded enough to do that, its own you buddy xd
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:07
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:07
extreme redpill
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also, hi ktitens
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:07
I'm going to poop
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:07
I gotta go now
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:07
yes leijurv is here
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:07
bye
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nini zaanga
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:07
ZAANAGA IS DONE
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Brother Entropy 03/05/2022 00:07
rip zaanga
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:07
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again all you people seem to believe the masses are just so stupid, that the twitter overlords need to protect them.
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Brother Entropy 03/05/2022 00:07
they are
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Zaanga
again all you people seem to believe the masses are just so stupid, that the twitter overlords need to protect them.
yes
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i say let the people believe whatever they want
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:07
The masses are stupid
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:07
zaanga when his desperate mom who has cancer reads that she needs to drink bleach to cure it and she actually does
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:07
Lol
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:07
if you say "masses" its clear that you're a republican
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:07
what would you do then?
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:07
the masses are stupid, but you should be allowed to say stupid things
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the masses are stupid, source: me
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Brother Todarac
kelv unironically believes the political cartoon / meme of "we want rights" from the left and "we want to kill trans" from the right, even though thats such a stupid take
Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:08
just replace "kill" with "make life so absolutely miserable that the kill themselves" and it still works
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Brother Todarac
the masses are stupid, but you should be allowed to say stupid things
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:08
no, this is not "stupid things" this is misinformation
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zaanga when his desperate mom who has cancer reads that she needs to drink bleach to cure it and she actually does
my mother isnt a retard like you who will believe everything she reads online, sorry
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Brother Todarac
the masses are stupid, but you should be allowed to say stupid things
Brother Entropy 03/05/2022 00:08
even if theyre harmful like the bleach? (edited)
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:08
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Brother leijurv
just replace "kill" with "make life so absolutely miserable that the kill themselves" and it still works
Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:08
config issue
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Zaanga
my mother isnt a retard like you who will believe everything she reads online, sorry
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:08
why do fake cancer cures exist
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:08
and why do people try them?
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Brother Entropy
even if theyre harmful like the bleach? (edited)
Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:08
if you are legitimately stupid enough to drink bleach, it is not the fault of the poster
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:08
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:09
are you calling all people who have cancer and are so desperate they want to believe in something posted online retards?
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:09
being stupid should be illegal (yes i am calling for eugenics)
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based
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except i decide who is smart and who isnt
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:09
eugenics isnt that bad of an idea
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:09
yes, I think crystals and alternative medicine are fucking stupid, and if you believe it youre a retard, but I dont think they should be banned
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:09
your honor, what you aren't considering is that i think they're stupid
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this literally boils down to Kelvi believing people dont deserve to read whatever information and make opinions. he believes some sort of overlord needs to make the decisions on what information is and is not allowed.
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:10
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Zaanga
this literally boils down to Kelvi believing people dont deserve to read whatever information and make opinions. he believes some sort of overlord needs to make the decisions on what information is and is not allowed.
Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:10
its actually interesting how much this parallels what i was talking about yesterday with libertarianism
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Zaanga
this literally boils down to Kelvi believing people dont deserve to read whatever information and make opinions. he believes some sort of overlord needs to make the decisions on what information is and is not allowed.
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:10
this is such a bad take
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:10
it all boils down to capitalism
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:10
but essentially for society to function yes
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Brother leijurv
generally speaking, the government has an interest in defending people from being coerced into dangerous trade deals
Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:10
@Zaanga could i trouble you to read this + the next dozen or so messages from me
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and let me know what you think
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sure give me a minute
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:11
its clear that you dont use rose quartz to clean your chakras
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:11
I love psychedelics but I actually hate that it turns some people into chakra crystal hippies
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Brother Todarac
I love psychedelics but I actually hate that it turns some people into chakra crystal hippies
Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:12
and yet you're willing to take that risk with me (trying to convince me to try them)
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sad!
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:12
Psychedelics arent for everyone
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:12
leijurv is going to buy a ton of crystals (he has already started his collection with tungsten) after taking mushrooms
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Brother leijurv
its actually interesting how much this parallels what i was talking about yesterday with libertarianism
Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:12
the connection is along the lines of "why don't you trust people to make the right decisions for themselves"
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:13
I went to the jeweler the other day to get a ring and the dude tried selling me a tungsten ring
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:13
i admit that the "money" aspect doesn't have a direct analogue so
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:13
but i think it's similar in an interesting way nevertheless
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:13
actually, a solid tungsten ring sounds kind of cool
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:13
It was
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it was also like $75
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 00:13
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these are kind of cool
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:14
I need rubidium ring
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Brother leijurv
the connection is along the lines of "why don't you trust people to make the right decisions for themselves"
Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:14
basically, i immediately have a hard time believing in any legal argument that rests on "why don't you trust people to make the right decision for themselves", in the face of strong evidence that people are retarded and are making the wrong decision in this case, all the time, and hurting themselves and others
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i need a uranium ring
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:14
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Brother leijurv
basically, i immediately have a hard time believing in any legal argument that rests on "why don't you trust people to make the right decision for themselves", in the face of strong evidence that people are retarded and are making the wrong decision in this case, all the time, and hurting themselves and others
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:15
but who decides if this is "true" or not (actual zaanga argument mdma )
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Brother leijurv
basically, i immediately have a hard time believing in any legal argument that rests on "why don't you trust people to make the right decision for themselves", in the face of strong evidence that people are retarded and are making the wrong decision in this case, all the time, and hurting themselves and others
Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:15
example: you can find a million examples of where someone was like "doctor says my son has X and needs Y surgery" -> posts it on a fb group for healing crystals or something -> gets a million responses reinforcing that they shouldn't follow the doctor and should instead do an orange juice cleanse or whatever -> kid gets hurt inb4 libertarian strawman "so you think the GOVERNMENT knows better than PARENTS how they should PARENT their KIDS???" --> yeah we have child protective services, this already exists, cope and seethe, parents dont have an ontological absolute right to do whatever to their kids
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:16
god i love when leijurv agrees with me
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god i love when leijurv agrees with me
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:16
and explains my point like 1000x better
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bro meow
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:16
i love you
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👩‍❤️‍💋👨
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i love you too gayboy
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:17
actually it wouldnt be gay because im trans
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off to gulag
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banned from twitter
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hehe
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:18
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chicken wing
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Teamspeak Is Better
actually it wouldnt be gay because im trans
it would be gay cause im trans too
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:19
phew!
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zaanga is currently preforming extreme mental gymnastics
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Brother leijurv
@Zaanga could i trouble you to read this + the next dozen or so messages from me
okay so if im correct. Your saying that the government should make laws such as health and safety standards mandatory because if they did not then practically no one would follow them correct ? Well I feel like comparing food standards to Tweets on twitter is a apples to oranges comparison. If the government abolished food standards, since its obviously cheaper to not follow them, the vast majority of places would not follow them for profits sake. Sure a few places might advertise themselves and attract wealthier people for their own good food standards, but generally it would be difficult to avoid eating a place that would not follow the standard. However with Misinformation tweets, assuming the information is actually false, and not just it is actually true but not widely accepted yet. The issue is unlike the health standards, in which many people would ditch them, you can just simply ignore and not believe whatever retarded thing people are saying. Lets say someone posts "Drinking bleach cures COVID" sure if you are actually that retarded, you can drink the bleach. HOWEVER there was also tons of other information freely available out there to contrary that point, so its not like you where de facto forced into it, like how if the government got rid of food standards. But also lets be real, the majority of "Misinformation" cases aren't over concretely proven true vs false statements like "is drinking bleach good for your health" its statements like "Where did COVID come from" in which there is multiple pro and con arguments, documents, government and scientific officials debating over something that has not been proven. But Twitter chose a side in a debated topic declaring 1 gospel and the other heresy, and banning anyone who disagreed.
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okay so if im correct. Your saying that the government should make laws such as health and safety standards mandatory because if they did not then practically no one would follow them correct ? Well I feel like comparing food standards to Tweets on twitter is a apples to oranges comparison. If the government abolished food standards, since its obviously cheaper to not follow them, the vast majority of places would not follow them for profits sake. Sure a few places might advertise themselves and attract wealthier people for their own good food standards, but generally it would be difficult to avoid eating a place that would not follow the standard. However with Misinformation tweets, assuming the information is actually false, and not just it is actually true but not widely accepted yet. The issue is unlike the health standards, in which many people would ditch them, you can just simply ignore and not believe whatever retarded thing people are saying. Lets say someone posts "Drinking bleach cures COVID" sure if you are actually that retarded, you can drink the bleach. HOWEVER there was also tons of other information freely available out there to contrary that point, so its not like you where de facto forced into it, like how if the government got rid of food standards. But also lets be real, the majority of "Misinformation" cases aren't over concretely proven true vs false statements like "is drinking bleach good for your health" its statements like "Where did COVID come from" in which there is multiple pro and con arguments, documents, government and scientific officials debating over something that has not been proven. But Twitter chose a side in a debated topic declaring 1 gospel and the other heresy, and banning anyone who disagreed.
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:21
metaphysics can lick my nuts
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:22
I fixed your grammar
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okay so if I'm correct. You're saying that the government should make laws such as health and safety standards mandatory because if they did not then practically no one would follow them correctly? Well, I feel like comparing food standards to Tweets on Twitter is an apple to oranges comparison. If the government abolished food standards, since it's cheaper to not follow them, the vast majority of places would not follow them for profit's sake. Sure a few places might advertise themselves and attract wealthier people for their good food standards, but generally, it would be difficult to avoid eating at a place that would not follow the standard. However with Misinformation tweets, assuming the information is false, and not just it is actually true but not widely accepted yet. The issue is unlike the health standards, which many people would ditch, you can just simply ignore and not believe whatever retarded thing people are saying. Let's say someone posts "Drinking bleach cures COVID" sure if you are actually that retarded, you can drink the bleach. HOWEVER, there was also tons of other information freely available out there to contrary that point, so it's not like you were de facto forced into it, like how if the government got rid of food standards. But also let's be real, the majority of "Misinformation" cases aren't over concretely proven true vs false statements like "is drinking bleach good for your health" its statements like "Where did COVID come from" in which there are multiple pro and con arguments, documents, government and scientific officials debating over something that has not been proven. But Twitter chose aside on a debated topic declaring 1 gospel and the other heresy and banning anyone who disagreed.
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okay so if im correct. Your saying that the government should make laws such as health and safety standards mandatory because if they did not then practically no one would follow them correct ? Well I feel like comparing food standards to Tweets on twitter is a apples to oranges comparison. If the government abolished food standards, since its obviously cheaper to not follow them, the vast majority of places would not follow them for profits sake. Sure a few places might advertise themselves and attract wealthier people for their own good food standards, but generally it would be difficult to avoid eating a place that would not follow the standard. However with Misinformation tweets, assuming the information is actually false, and not just it is actually true but not widely accepted yet. The issue is unlike the health standards, in which many people would ditch them, you can just simply ignore and not believe whatever retarded thing people are saying. Lets say someone posts "Drinking bleach cures COVID" sure if you are actually that retarded, you can drink the bleach. HOWEVER there was also tons of other information freely available out there to contrary that point, so its not like you where de facto forced into it, like how if the government got rid of food standards. But also lets be real, the majority of "Misinformation" cases aren't over concretely proven true vs false statements like "is drinking bleach good for your health" its statements like "Where did COVID come from" in which there is multiple pro and con arguments, documents, government and scientific officials debating over something that has not been proven. But Twitter chose a side in a debated topic declaring 1 gospel and the other heresy, and banning anyone who disagreed.
Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:22
What about the example where some parents ARE retarded when it comes to health and they give their kid essential oils instead of chemotherapy
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Is that just the price of a free society? /s
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Zaanga
okay so if im correct. Your saying that the government should make laws such as health and safety standards mandatory because if they did not then practically no one would follow them correct ? Well I feel like comparing food standards to Tweets on twitter is a apples to oranges comparison. If the government abolished food standards, since its obviously cheaper to not follow them, the vast majority of places would not follow them for profits sake. Sure a few places might advertise themselves and attract wealthier people for their own good food standards, but generally it would be difficult to avoid eating a place that would not follow the standard. However with Misinformation tweets, assuming the information is actually false, and not just it is actually true but not widely accepted yet. The issue is unlike the health standards, in which many people would ditch them, you can just simply ignore and not believe whatever retarded thing people are saying. Lets say someone posts "Drinking bleach cures COVID" sure if you are actually that retarded, you can drink the bleach. HOWEVER there was also tons of other information freely available out there to contrary that point, so its not like you where de facto forced into it, like how if the government got rid of food standards. But also lets be real, the majority of "Misinformation" cases aren't over concretely proven true vs false statements like "is drinking bleach good for your health" its statements like "Where did COVID come from" in which there is multiple pro and con arguments, documents, government and scientific officials debating over something that has not been proven. But Twitter chose a side in a debated topic declaring 1 gospel and the other heresy, and banning anyone who disagreed.
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:22
you would be a retard to eat at the restaurant with no food hygiene standards, because there are plenty of ones that do follow it
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also you say "the truth may not be widely accepted" and then say for people to "follow the majority"
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Brother leijurv
What about the example where some parents ARE retarded when it comes to health and they give their kid essential oils instead of chemotherapy
Well that is a different case in which this would be more about parental neglect of a child rather than they where simply just confused about what was the best treatment option. As lets be real, if a parent was actually doing that, there was likley may more going on in that relationship than just "I read a wrong tweet"
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Is that just the price of a free society? /s
unironically yes
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:25
free society is when i can kill my children
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we shouldnt send people to jail because they might be found innocent later
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Teamspeak Is Better
free society is when i can kill my children
in the sense that some may suffer because they chose to be retarded because someone else told them so. This would still prop take place as these things are bannable RIGHT NOW and they still happen RIGHT NOW anyway lol
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people believe in Qanon and though Qanon is banned on Twitter
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banning Minsinformation doesnt even work right now anyway
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:26
why not
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all its doing is just banning some legit false things, and lots of stuff that is just political disagreements
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unironically yes
Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:27
my point here is that the "yeah if ur retarded you will suffer WHO CARES" argument doesn't work when you bring in even the simplest example of a parent making choices for their kids
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:27
i like how you ignore the parts that i said where you dont have a comeback
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:27
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people love to use examples like crystals and essential oils for their hypotheticals about "What if we allowed misinformation" but in reality most of the misinformation debate is over politics
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:28
whats bad about essential oils LMAO
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:28
the impact on peoples lives through misinformation and politics is worse than crystals (edited)
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Brother Dectonic
whats bad about essential oils LMAO
there is people who sell essential oils saying they cure cancer and stuff
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(where the term snake oil sailsmen comes from)
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:29
provide example
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 00:29
found the essential oil consoomer
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:29
assumption is incorrect
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:29
we shouldnt have schools, let people stay stupid, it makes them free
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:29
you have been classified as a covid made from a lab believer
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 00:30
government shouldnt force kids to go to school (if they are too stupid to want to go to school then that's on them, this is the cost of living in a free society)
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:30
dumb conservatives wanting change yet they dont want to learn
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:32
conservatives only want change that makes us regress
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MDMA
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Brother leijurv
government shouldnt force kids to go to school (if they are too stupid to want to go to school then that's on them, this is the cost of living in a free society)
joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 00:32
I am too cool for school, sorry!
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 00:32
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 00:32
rick and morty
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 00:33
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@Brother Todarac
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@Brother Todarac join vc
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 00:36
todarac is busy we are discussing racism in our racist vc
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He is too busy being super active
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Brother leijurv
government shouldnt force kids to go to school (if they are too stupid to want to go to school then that's on them, this is the cost of living in a free society)
again kinda a false equivalency as attending school vs reading a tweet arent the same. I get the principle in "don't let the government force you to do stuff" which is fine, laws are good. However the problem is when the government (or in this case a company) is deciding that's true vs what isn't true and banning according. Most examples people bring up like "wow letting people drink bleach" are effective in emotions because its obvious its bad to let those things happen. However when it gets into more complicated subjects such as "where did covid come from" in which the answer isn't clear because its a new subject, contradictory experts and findings by scientists and governments, its irresponsible for a government or company to decide what is the truth and what is not in those more complicated/new topics. I would also like to note that there is tons of independently run sites that do promote things most people would say is false such as Qanon, Alternative medicines etc. yes their is segments of the population that believes this crap, however its not how people like Kelvi believe to where if we suddenly allowed it, everyone would just drink bleach and become Russians or something. Tons of Misinformation already exist on other websites, yet people choose to not believe, so why do we believe that if allowed on Twitter, it suddenly would be a issue of everyone believes Qanon is real ? (this is my last post im now going to go touch grass)
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again kinda a false equivalency as attending school vs reading a tweet arent the same. I get the principle in "don't let the government force you to do stuff" which is fine, laws are good. However the problem is when the government (or in this case a company) is deciding that's true vs what isn't true and banning according. Most examples people bring up like "wow letting people drink bleach" are effective in emotions because its obvious its bad to let those things happen. However when it gets into more complicated subjects such as "where did covid come from" in which the answer isn't clear because its a new subject, contradictory experts and findings by scientists and governments, its irresponsible for a government or company to decide what is the truth and what is not in those more complicated/new topics. I would also like to note that there is tons of independently run sites that do promote things most people would say is false such as Qanon, Alternative medicines etc. yes their is segments of the population that believes this crap, however its not how people like Kelvi believe to where if we suddenly allowed it, everyone would just drink bleach and become Russians or something. Tons of Misinformation already exist on other websites, yet people choose to not believe, so why do we believe that if allowed on Twitter, it suddenly would be a issue of everyone believes Qanon is real ? (this is my last post im now going to go touch grass)
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:41
people already fall for onion pieces all the time
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all these things should be banned
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it would be an issue is everyone started to be believe in qanaon the same way it would be a problem if everyone started to believe that you were a pedophile
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Leijurv ^
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:42
neither needs "proof" and what is "proof" is subjective to people
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some people see a tweet as being "valid proof"
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Hope this gets flooded in text
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:43
what
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Shh
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Just continue debating Zaanga
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this didn’t pan out.
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+too much todarac bullying today, i was redirecting it
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Zaanga
again kinda a false equivalency as attending school vs reading a tweet arent the same. I get the principle in "don't let the government force you to do stuff" which is fine, laws are good. However the problem is when the government (or in this case a company) is deciding that's true vs what isn't true and banning according. Most examples people bring up like "wow letting people drink bleach" are effective in emotions because its obvious its bad to let those things happen. However when it gets into more complicated subjects such as "where did covid come from" in which the answer isn't clear because its a new subject, contradictory experts and findings by scientists and governments, its irresponsible for a government or company to decide what is the truth and what is not in those more complicated/new topics. I would also like to note that there is tons of independently run sites that do promote things most people would say is false such as Qanon, Alternative medicines etc. yes their is segments of the population that believes this crap, however its not how people like Kelvi believe to where if we suddenly allowed it, everyone would just drink bleach and become Russians or something. Tons of Misinformation already exist on other websites, yet people choose to not believe, so why do we believe that if allowed on Twitter, it suddenly would be a issue of everyone believes Qanon is real ? (this is my last post im now going to go touch grass)
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:52
look, since you seem to be set on this covid example ill break it down for you. If you a random person, without information claim that during a developing situation that something is a fact, when you know that it is not, and there is no current supporting proof then it is misinformation. If you say something that is based on merit, from a reliable source it is not misinformation. This applies even if the final outcome of this is contrary to the initial claim. For example the plum pudding model was not "misinformation" as it was a theory developed from the current proof and had merit, however if someone claimed today that the plum pudding model was correct that would be misinformation as we have clearly proved it to be false. Similarly if someone 200 years ago proposed the same theory with none of the same experiments or proof it would also be misinformation, as it does not have any evidence and is based on nothing, and would therefore be considered at the time "false" even if eventually proven true as the person at the time had no discernible way of knowing if it was true or not.
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:53
hope you can actually understand what we're talking about now 👍
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also twitter has a much larger audience than those sites, and if say 5% of people who read it believe it, if we multiple that by 100x then a lot more people will believe it
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hope we understand that twitter is a lot bigger than a random qanon site 👍
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Brother Entropy 03/05/2022 00:54
kelvi why cant you just walk away from this knowing that zaanga is retarded and live a happy life
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its not like youll change his mind
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its not like youll change his mind
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:55
if you actually want to know my friend's cancer came back in his brain and he had a stroke last week and now he cant talk, and i was distracting myself 👍
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Brother Entropy 03/05/2022 00:56
im sorry
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please go on
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 00:56
its ok it's bed time
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also it's unfortunate and it happens but youknow it is what it is
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kelvi why cant you just walk away from this knowing that zaanga is retarded and live a happy life
Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 01:12
this is exactly what i did (decided to do) when zaanga said the stuff about religion
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so i didnt engage i was just curious what zaanga thought
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 01:15
another day in debatemasons. no ireland brought up until this message, so that is progress
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 01:18
just realized it's been almost exactly 5 year since i visited londondublin
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just realized it's been almost exactly 5 year since i visited londondublin
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 01:19
why include the irish name
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all towns in ireland now called london
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 01:20
except MargaretThatcherville
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I have touched the grass
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oi Ireland discussion ?!
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where its finstaa name on the ping
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 01:21
okay muting this chat for hte next hour
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okay muting this chat for hte next hour
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 01:21
should smoking inside be allowed again
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is finstaa not in this discord wtf
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 01:22
😽
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Brother Emperor 03/05/2022 01:22
what happened to finsta?
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:22
we dont speak about finsta
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it says he is in this discord on mutual servers, but I cant ping him
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 01:23
@Finstaa
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 01:23
🚨 THIS IS A FINSTAA FREE ZONE 🚨
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Brother Emperor 03/05/2022 01:23
I got baited
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 01:23
@Finstaa
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oh lol i see
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 01:23
oh can he not see this channel?
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 01:23
🚨 THIS IS A FINSTAA FREE ZONE 🚨
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oh can he not see this channel?
yes
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I can see him in #general
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but not here
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Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 01:24
🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨 (edited)
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🚨 THIS IS A FINSTAA FREE ZONE 🚨
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🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 01:24
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:24
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@Teamspeak Is Better Just want to let you know you (sorta) changed my mind, After some introspection (when I was touching the grass) I realized my problem was not so much the banning of misinformation, but rather the who gets to decide and on what basis the misinformation is bannable, as well as a practicality aspects of it at.
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the good ending
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if you actually want to know my friend's cancer came back in his brain and he had a stroke last week and now he cant talk, and i was distracting myself 👍
also this really sucks, sorry to hear about that
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also this really sucks, sorry to hear about that
Teamspeak Is Better 03/05/2022 01:27
it's ok we're not super close
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well that makes it more ok for me
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he's surrounded by some amazing people so he'll be just fine
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thats good to hear
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@Brother leijurv debating is exhausting, do u do this on a daily basis on wikipedia ?
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@Brother leijurv debating is exhausting, do u do this on a daily basis on wikipedia ?
Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 01:30
bro
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i have been debating on wikipedia like all day for the last few days
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check out how long my rageposts are
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DUDE
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TOUCH GRASS WTF
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each one of these is like the entire length of me and Keliv's debate
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 01:31
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lol
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i only wrote the last reply
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but this is a DANK interaction
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real talk bro, do you have a job lmao
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:31
wiki in a nut shell
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 01:31
i have been putting off homework SO HARD today and yesterday it's actually a problem
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Bröther öats 03/05/2022 01:31
he's a uni student
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i have been putting off homework SO HARD today and yesterday it's actually a problem
same lol
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trying to multitaks rn, failing really hard
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Brother Entropy 03/05/2022 01:32
so hows the balancer
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 01:32
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sample of homework that i am procrastinating on finishing
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:32
Thanks teacher
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im too smoothbrain for that
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:33
professor be like
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lemme give him 80 more additional points
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I now have a 99 in the class
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My average amongst all of my classes is now an A
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I am an A student :)
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Bröther öats 03/05/2022 01:35
you have to write this
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 01:36
yeah and guess what
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i made a wrong asumption near the beginning
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and it's all wrong
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Brother Emperor 03/05/2022 01:36
smh politics don't belong in math
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retard!!!!!!!! ahha big idiot!!!!!!!!!!1
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 01:36
"Like" if you agree
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Chebyshev, ive heard of her
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 01:36
why does wikipedia do this when it embeds sometimes
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its so retarded
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Brother Fruit 03/05/2022 01:37
encoding
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:37
I'm actually a A- student :(
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Brother Emperor 03/05/2022 01:37
Wikipedia isn't a reliable source, do you even go to college? who's stupid now 😎
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 01:38
hurtful comment (i have not graduated yet)
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Brother P529 03/05/2022 01:38
Minecraft utility mod coded in Kotlin. Contribute to lambda-client/lambda development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 01:38
wikipedia is literally THE MOST reliable source
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in existence
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change my mind
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there is literally no better source.
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:38
Wikipedia is not a reliable source for citations elsewhere on Wikipedia. As a user-generated source, it can be edited by anyone at any time, and any information it contains at a particular time could be vandalism, a work in progress, or simply incorrect. Biographies of living persons, subjects that happen to be in the news, and politically or cu...
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big bro chacho
why does wikipedia do this when it embeds sometimes
Brother Fruit 03/05/2022 01:38
Get the complete details on Unicode character U+0027 on FileFormat.Info
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 01:38
epic fail
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Brother Fruit 03/05/2022 01:38
first sentence
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 01:38
why cant it just do the apostrophe right
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:38
mdma
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 01:39
yeah lmao its literally in the first sentence
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Brother Fruit 03/05/2022 01:39
it means you can’t cite wikipedia on wikipedia
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 01:39
yeah
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:39
nope
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wikipedia says its not reliable
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 01:39
i got the gist of it (i am not greek and dumb)
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:39
ur wrong
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take the L
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take the L
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Brother Fruit 03/05/2022 01:40
in the context of WP:RS
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guys I have obtained Leijruvs dox
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Im going to drop it
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:40
ur late
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^literally leijurv irl
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:40
hes not in a suit
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so wrong
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 01:40
i dont know how people unironically spend their lives editing wikipedia
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 01:40
like jesus christ
01:40
is everything going alright buddy?
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:40
Leijurv going swimming
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just, why...
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Bröther öats 03/05/2022 01:41
there are worse things in the world to do than contribute to wikipedia
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:41
Leijurv skydiving
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Leijurv fighting
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Bröther öats
there are worse things in the world to do than contribute to wikipedia
Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:41
like be racist
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Bröther öats 03/05/2022 01:43
or being a trump supporter (these are mutually exclusive)
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 01:50
I FUCKING LOVE WAR
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Brother P529 03/05/2022 01:59
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@Brother Entropy get in streaming?
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Hate to bring back debate masons, but new supreme court update got leaked
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"We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft circulated inside the court.
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(alleged leak)
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 02:13
im not reading this
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does it mean that it will ban abortion or no
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 02:13
Kinda sorta not really kinda in practice
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Means states can ban it (and many immediately will)
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 02:14
damn, what a crap country
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Brother leijurv
Means states can ban it (and many immediately will)
from what ive read, many states have trigger laws that auto ban abortion if roe vs wade is overturned (edited)
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 02:15
How devious of them
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Arkansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah and Texas have auto laws, that auto ban abortion in the even of a roe vs wade overturn
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according to Businessinsider
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 02:22
cringe
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Brother Emperor 03/05/2022 02:23
oh no :O
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 02:32
I leaked it
02:51
Ultimately, blockchains are revolutions, and their success depends on the number of revolutionaries, not users.
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@Brother leijurv
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 03:00
soy
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 03:02
thats the soyest thing ive ever read
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Terrorism over supreme court
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 04:23
my friends are still talking about the potatoes
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they have been all day
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potatoes are s tier
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 05:08
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i just keyboard mashed for two files
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its so crazy how consistent i was
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both have htnsueh
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 05:09
Huehuehue
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jajaja
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 05:10
Harharhar
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Constructor 03/05/2022 05:30
human randomness is very predictable 😄
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ßrother LordNo. 03/05/2022 05:32
Rain mode engage
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 06:48
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 03/05/2022 10:06
redpill 6
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 11:19
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3
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Brother Chipoff 03/05/2022 14:19
I will purchase the popstonia dvd for the sole purpose of seeing the uncensored version of popstonia episode two (for map art archival purposes of course)
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Brother Chipoff
I will purchase the popstonia dvd for the sole purpose of seeing the uncensored version of popstonia episode two (for map art archival purposes of course)
[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 03/05/2022 14:20
from who?
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3
from who?
Brother Chipoff 03/05/2022 14:21
you It wasn't a question
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Sticker
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 03/05/2022 14:21
They are out of stock, I don't have any more
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Brother Chipoff 03/05/2022 14:22
Sticker
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 03/05/2022 14:25
Sticker
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Brother Chipoff 03/05/2022 14:27
this is what happens when you dont read the disclaimer
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 15:04
This goes hard
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 03/05/2022 18:16
⚠️ DISCORD SEX NEW FEATURE 👍 How 2 @discord sex: 😳 1. Open Disocrd on the 🖥 Computer 2. Click GIF picker and send a gif🤔 3. Type in chat: "s/e/x" (without quotes) and SEND 4. ???❓ 5. WTF DISCO??? DISCORD🤨 SEX ??? WTF 😂😂😂 this trick work 2022 100% working discor 😂😂😂
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(edited)
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wow
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 18:27
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joeseph stilton
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 03/05/2022 18:32
👎 didn't even type s/e/x
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 18:32
i did :C
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this is result 1
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 03/05/2022 18:32
you gotta type s/e/x as a separate message and send it
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hmm
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okay thats spooky that it edited my message
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(edited)
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LOL
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dude how
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@joeseph stilton literally post any gif
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then type "s/e/x" into the chatbox afterwards
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 18:35
(edited)
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wtf
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wtf
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black magic
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 18:36
RIGHT
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 18:36
does this work anywhere???
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 18:36
popstonia is at it again
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joeseph stilton
does this work anywhere???
[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 03/05/2022 18:39
yes
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 18:42
(edited)
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Brother P529 03/05/2022 18:44
idk
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i wanna try it too
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(edited)
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wat
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this is spooky
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 18:52
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guys
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october 2022
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the big one is coming
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Brother Entropy 03/05/2022 18:56
heey kevin
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 18:58
kevin is a menace
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to society
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joeseph stilton 03/05/2022 19:00
milling machine > dumb bich
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:00
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 19:01
19:01
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Брат Bird 03/05/2022 19:02
Guys they’re going to overturn roe v wade
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Брат Bird
Guys they’re going to overturn roe v wade
Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 19:03
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They literally had an insider leaking issue
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its probably not going to actually be overturned
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 03/05/2022 19:03
Todarac posting 100 memes so nobody find out about discord sex
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Brother Todarac
Click to see attachment 🖼️
big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:03
There is hope
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 19:03
rebane I grant you full permission to post that in #announcements
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Брат Bird 03/05/2022 19:06
It leaked that they intent on voting on it
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And the vote was leaked
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As passing
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Brother Todarac
its probably not going to actually be overturned
I disagree. I think Roe is highly likely to be overturned. The leaked draft decision is not likely to be the final decision.
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Брат Bird 03/05/2022 19:06
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 19:06
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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But given the current ideological makeup of the court overturning Roe seems likely.
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 19:06
I mean I obviously dont know if it is or isnt, but they made it sound like "we internally discuss matters like this all the time"
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and this one got leaked
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but i'll defer to your judgement, Im a tourist in this shit
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The fact that a majority concurred with the draft is what makes me think this.
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Some activist clerk leaked it
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Whoever it is their legal career is prop done for
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And is also a big break in precedent
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Брат Bird 03/05/2022 19:08
If anywhere there would need to be transparency it should be the fucking Supreme Court
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Zaanga
Whoever it is their legal career is prop done for
Perhaps some things are more important than a career?
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 19:09
whistleblowers are based
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_m_e_o_w_
Perhaps some things are more important than a career?
I never said it was not justified or anything
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 19:09
except when they do it against me, CLOVER
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Just said that realistically no one will want them again
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Брат Bird 03/05/2022 19:09
They meet like the order of the phoenix
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In the shadows
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Zaanga
Just said that realistically no one will want them again
For sure. If they are found out that is.
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Брат Bird 03/05/2022 19:09
And control the law
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Cynically you could also say it’s attempt at intimidation into switching sides
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Брат Bird 03/05/2022 19:10
And are very crusty and stinky conservatives mostly
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 19:10
amber heard court case is national news. meanwhile the ghislaine maxwell court case is all private. bullshit
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Брат Bird 03/05/2022 19:10
If you sleep with your cousin you do NOT deserve a vote
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Брат Bird
If you sleep with your cousin you do NOT deserve a vote
Brother Emperor 03/05/2022 19:11
based nick against universal suffrage
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Brother Todarac
amber heard court case is national news. meanwhile the ghislaine maxwell court case is all private. bullshit
Брат Bird 03/05/2022 19:11
We’re talking about a man’s LIFE here Johnny depp is a victim of domestic violence and I will never get to see another pirates of the Caribbean movie with him ever again angrywojak
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Брат Bird
If you sleep with your cousin you do NOT deserve a vote
Susan Collins’ brow cannot physically furrow any farther than right now.
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Брат Bird 03/05/2022 19:12
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This isn’t edited
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lmao
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Брат Bird 03/05/2022 19:14
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Брат Bird
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Every damn night man. They put abhorrent thoughts of gay furries into my brain.
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Брат Bird
Click to see attachment 🖼️
big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:15
what if i told you that banning abortions wont stop abortions, and only force women to have clandestine, and more dangerous, abortions, putting their lives in danger
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Every damn night man. They put abhorrent thoughts of gay furries into my brain.
Please can you tell your compatriots to stop that @Брат Bird ?
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Брат Bird 03/05/2022 19:15
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Susan collins after roe v wade is 1 vote shy of repeal
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:16
conservatives trying to explain why a 6 week old, consciousnessless egg is the same as a living breathing human being
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Брат Bird 03/05/2022 19:16
My co worker in the capital is a hard core republican and he is so excited about this
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I’m just troling him today
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The space lasers are going to get him
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:17
conservatives trying to explain why rape victims have to bear, give birth to, and raise rape babies, who remind them daily of the fact that they were raped
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conservatives trying to explain why people who used contraceptives but still had an unwanted pregnancy have to deal with it
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big bro chacho
what if i told you that banning abortions wont stop abortions, and only force women to have clandestine, and more dangerous, abortions, putting their lives in danger
What if I told you banning murder won’t stop people murdering. All it will do is force people to murder in secret and more dangerously. From a conservative POV abortion=murder so to them, banning abortion is just the same as banning murder.
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:18
conservatives trying to explain why people who live in extreme poverty cant have an abortion and need to bring up a child who will grow up in miserable conditions
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The point is that they don’t care about if stops it or not
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The point is about morality
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:18
morality can suck my dick
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if you think its immoral to get an abortion, don't get one
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don't get in the way of other's liberty
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big bro chacho
if you think its immoral to get an abortion, don't get one
This is not a good argument
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:19
the morals of certain parts of the population shouldn't be forced on all women
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It’s equivalent to saying don’t murder someone if you don’t support murder
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:20
but its not
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you don’t understand the other sides argument lol, the view abortion and murder as the same. Having a abortion literally is a murder in the mind of conservative.
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:20
the conservative argument of "abortion is murder" is braindead, its an absolute false equivalence
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Zaanga
you don’t understand the other sides argument lol, the view abortion and murder as the same. Having a abortion literally is a murder in the mind of conservative.
Yes this is what I meant @big bro chacho
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:20
oh I do understand
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i just think its utterly retarded
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I feel bad for all the women and couples who will be affected by this abhorrent ruling, if Roe does get overruled (edited)
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big bro chacho
i just think its utterly retarded
I tend to agree. I think that the argument in favor of allowing abortions is more intellectually complicated though.
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Which is probably why many people disagree
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:22
(conservatives are retarded and just disagree)
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(troll)
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God every day im more glad that I live where I live, god bless
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feels good to live in a place where people arent losing their rights (edited)
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:23
Just dont belong to a political party
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:25
*Just belong to an extremist terrorist political organisation
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 19:25
every time I drive between cities in texas there are giant anti-abortion billboards everywhere. they say "HEARTBEAT AT 18 DAYS" and shit like that
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:25
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:25
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:26
LOL
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 19:26
😂
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you cut off the last half of the message tho
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:26
problem?
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:26
most of the anti abortion arguments are just appeal to emotion fallacies
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:26
abortion is good
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:26
(leijurv would be proud if he saw me say this)
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:26
change my mind
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:27
abortion is not good but it is a right that women should hold
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:27
people who are pro anti abortion are people who are pro sexual abuse
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this is a meme take
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:27
u could have just said anti abortion
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:27
do not take this seriouslty
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 19:27
I mean its just a matter of drawing the line where life starts. They will say it starts at conception, and after that its murder (edited)
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:27
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Abortion is a coupon for Murder
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 19:27
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:27
its cheaper to kill it than raise it
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:28
i don't think its anyone's business but the mother's and father's
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:28
so true
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:28
but if the father is a rapist he deserves no say
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:28
practice safe sex
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:28
he should get hanged
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well the thing is
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safe sex isnt 100% safe
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:28
are you like
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:28
accidents can still happen
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:28
not having a license or something
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:28
?
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:28
?
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:28
womp womp
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:29
womp womp
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having sex with a person who is intoxicated is rape
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 19:29
theres a lot to unpack there
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Like, are you assuming first time ever sex?
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:29
(unless stated before hand when the individual is sober to where they are comfortable with having sex when intoxicated)
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Jokes on you I am never sober
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Brother Todarac
Like, are you assuming first time ever sex?
Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:30
If a person who is intoxicated and is clearly not able to think freely and thoughtfully comes up to you and offers to ride you like a camel what are you going to say
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Just don’t be drunk
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:31
thats not the question
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Brother Dectonic
If a person who is intoxicated and is clearly not able to think freely and thoughtfully comes up to you and offers to ride you like a camel what are you going to say
big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:32
can i get her to sign a declaration to say that she consented to it
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like famous people do
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:32
I mean yeah
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big bro chacho
can i get her to sign a declaration to say that she consented to it
If intoxicated, declaration means nothing
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:33
I have heard of stories from people who are at a college my friend goes too and apparently a lot of people get invited to 10+ people orgies and have to sign nda's
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If intoxicated, declaration means nothing
Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:33
truth
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I think this is a morally complicated issue that has to do with the difficulty of defining when someone is too intoxicated to consent
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And the difficulty of judging that
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 19:34
Why does every debate degrade into sorites paradox
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:35
whats that
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 19:35
En dot Wikipedia dot org slash wiki slash sorites underscore paradox
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big bro chacho
whats that
Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:35
The sorites paradox refers to a type of paradoxical argument, sometimes known as a little-by-little argument, that arises as a result of the indeterminacy surrounding the predicates' boundaries of application.
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:35
u could have just told me to google it, retard
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Perhaps the reality that there are few unambiguous moral issues in the real world?
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:35
"The sorites paradox draws attention to the impossibility of defining the precise moment of transition from one state to another when there is a continuum between the two."
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:35
OH MY GOD ITS THE FUCKING SAND
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 19:35
Haha
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:35
it scares me too
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:36
so is this like, referring to when it counts as being alive or not?
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 19:36
It's also called the "continuum fallacy", but that's a specific misuse of it: that's when you declare that since you can come up with a continuous spectrum of possibility from A to B, that therefore there's no difference between A and B and it's illogical to treat them differently
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 19:36
well, personally if a firm believer of the Vortex Coalition™️ doctrine of STOMPING BABIES
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so i think abortion should be legal until 2 years of age
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(this is a joke)
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 19:37
Good idea
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big bro chacho
so i think abortion should be legal until 2 years of age
Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 19:37
Unwind is a 2007 dystopian novel by young adult literature author Neal Shusterman. It takes place in the United States in the near future. After the Second Civil War was fought over abortion, a compromise was reached, allowing parents to sign an order for their children between the ages of 13 and 18 to be "unwound" — taken to "harvest camps" and...
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Abortion should only be legal if you are under 2 years old.
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 19:37
After the Second Civil War was fought over abortion, a compromise was reached, allowing parents to sign an order for their children between the ages of 13 and 18 to be "unwound" — taken to "harvest camps" and dissected into their body parts for later use.
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:38
Just fixed some grammar on the Sorites paradox wiki page
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Brother Dectonic
Just fixed some grammar on the Sorites paradox wiki page
Good kitten
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:38
cathearthow
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I need to get back to editing grammar in wiki pages
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I used to do it a bit last year
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broder lampa 03/05/2022 19:39
No you don't
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:39
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Bröther öats 03/05/2022 19:42
no anime
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 19:42
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Gebrüder Zippie 03/05/2022 19:52
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@[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3
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works
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broder lampa 03/05/2022 19:53
you failed
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try again
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you dont search "sex" in the gif searcher
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you click one
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then type s/e/x here
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Брат Bird 03/05/2022 20:00
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Bröther öats 03/05/2022 20:01
(edited)
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wow!
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 20:07
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 20:10
I laughed hysterically at the "Calm down liberals."
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BrotherEyes 03/05/2022 20:32
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how
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 20:32
how
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It’s equivalent to saying don’t murder someone if you don’t support murder
isn't that true though......
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like if you don't support murder you shouldn't murder people
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??
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or am I missing something
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 20:43
Murder people
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Zaanga
What if I told you banning murder won’t stop people murdering. All it will do is force people to murder in secret and more dangerously. From a conservative POV abortion=murder so to them, banning abortion is just the same as banning murder.
Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 20:45
Is that true lol
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Would legalizing murder make less murders happen
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 20:46
no because i would be murdering a lot
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 20:47
Good point
20:47
Isn't there a super common point that even if you think abortion is the worst thing in the world, planned parenthood's net effect is abortion decreasing?
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 20:47
i have thought about going to a country with very bad technology and police and just being a serial killer
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 20:48
Like Belarus?
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 20:48
no
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lmao
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male)
i have thought about going to a country with very bad technology and police and just being a serial killer
you need a therapist
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 20:49
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bro meow
you need a therapist
Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 20:49
its just shower thoughts
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when i have nothing to think about i just make a situation and think how would i do it
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you could easily be a serial killer in America
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 20:51
Soy shower thoughts: imaginary situation is being a serial killer Chad shower thoughts: how could the world be better
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male)
i have thought about going to a country with very bad technology and police and just being a serial killer
Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 20:51
pepsi b lik: I dont want to go camping because I think you guys will murder me, then says stuff like this message above
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 20:51
yeah but i probably couldnt get away with it in current year
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male)
yeah but i probably couldnt get away with it in current year
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 20:51
being a serial killer is easy but being an uncaught serial killer is hard
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no
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 20:51
so true
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just fly to a different state
20:51
where no one knows you
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 20:51
they have my fingerprints and dna
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who
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 20:52
the government
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 20:52
pepsi I really think you could be the next Ted Kaczynski if you put your mind to it. I believe in you cathearthow
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kalju pepsi schizo arc?
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 20:52
how is it schizo u know they do keep your fingerprints and dna right
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 20:52
im not even joking, I sort of picture pepsi looking a bit like Ted irl
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 20:52
not really
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 20:52
but like, the version where he is well groomed
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pepsi send a picture of your face
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 20:53
i can send a picture of the top of my head from a year ago
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that includes the pvg lamp
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 20:53
added to the #worshipful-top-of-head-pics channel
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bro meow
you could easily be a serial killer in America
This is actually true
20:54
In America you actually have a decent chance of getting away with murder
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Obv tho it depends on who you kill, your ex wife ? Probably will be caught, random hooker ? Have a solid chance
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me and zaangas agree on one thing
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male)
how is it schizo u know they do keep your fingerprints and dna right
when did you give them your fingerprint and "DNA"
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Brother leijurv 03/05/2022 20:57
The government has my fingerprints because u had to to get a driver's license
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tf
20:57
I did not do that for Virginia
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sounds like a Cali thing
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the gov maybe has my DNA cause I did DNA testing for my mental health
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but I willingly gave it
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 20:58
what
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how would they have it pepsi?
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have you committed crimes already?
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Sticker
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 21:01
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got it
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 03/05/2022 21:03
wrong chat
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Brother leijurv
The government has my fingerprints because u had to to get a driver's license
Does jizzing on your tax return mean they have your DNA?
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“Spider-Man: No Way Home” was not released in China after Sony rejected a request to delete scenes that include the Statue of Liberty, a new report claims. In China, films are reviewed by the China Film Administration under the Publicity Department of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Chinese authorities initially wanted Sony and Marvel Studi...
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reason 420,690 to hate the CCP
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Brother Dectonic 03/05/2022 22:29
@big bro chacho
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 22:30
Lmfao
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@Brother Emperor we are bringing the party hat camping
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 22:36
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Brother Todarac 03/05/2022 23:39
redpill 1
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big bro chacho 03/05/2022 23:45
Sunni Muslim
23:45
Babe i found a new outlandish Wikipedia article
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Allegations that Barack Obama secretly practices Islam, or that he is the antichrist of Christian eschatology, or covertly holds some other esoteric religious position, have been suggested since he campaigned for the U.S. Senate in 2004 and proliferated after his election as President of the United States in 2008. As with conspiracy theories sur...
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@Brother leijurv @Brother Todarac
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Teamspeak Is Better 04/05/2022 00:17
redpill 2
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big bro chacho 04/05/2022 00:17
Fr
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bro meow
@Brother Emperor we are bringing the party hat camping
Brother Emperor 04/05/2022 00:57
Based
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Teamspeak Is Better
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one of my biggest gripes with the modern conservative movement right here
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all the GOP boomers be like "reee not letting poor people die=communism"
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Брат Bird 04/05/2022 03:51
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 04/05/2022 04:05
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Brother Dectonic 04/05/2022 07:02
@bro meow
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Brother Rain 04/05/2022 14:14
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Brother Dectonic
@bro meow
I love him
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Gebrüder Zippie 04/05/2022 15:05
@Brother Entropy hello?
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Brother Entropy 04/05/2022 15:06
hi im in the lab
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Brother Entropy
hi im in the lab
Genocide any baby worms today?
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Brother Entropy 04/05/2022 15:21
touring students to bring them into the cult
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Brother Entropy
touring students to bring them into the cult
Brother Chipoff 04/05/2022 15:32
new guests?
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Brother P529 04/05/2022 15:32
lol
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Brother Entropy 04/05/2022 15:33
no the worm abortion cult
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Brother Entropy
touring students to bring them into the cult
Genocytosis? troll
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Gebrüder Zippie 04/05/2022 15:53
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Brother Entropy 04/05/2022 15:56
15:56
(zippie drew this)
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big bro chacho 04/05/2022 15:56
Your mom
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big bro chacho
Your mom
Gebrüder Zippie 04/05/2022 16:01
y do u read vc text if ur not in vc (edited)
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big bro chacho 04/05/2022 16:01
Of course
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This is barely used as vc text lol
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Gebrüder Zippie 04/05/2022 16:01
i have it muted cus i dont read it
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big bro chacho 04/05/2022 16:02
U don't know how to read
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Ufo asmr no way
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big bro chacho 04/05/2022 16:09
I will install Nintendo emulators in your brain uwu
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I wouldn't let you 10ft near me
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Harrisssonn 04/05/2022 16:37
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Brother Entropy 04/05/2022 16:39
such lazy stashes
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Harrisssonn 04/05/2022 16:40
forcekens
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long gone went boom boom
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Brother Entropy
such lazy stashes
lol my chunk dupe stashes don't look much better
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joeseph stilton 04/05/2022 17:10
More organized than my stash
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Брат Bird 04/05/2022 18:01
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Brother Dectonic 04/05/2022 18:16
Need
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Can you spot the drowning child in this crowded wave pool? An interactive public service announcement. To the untrained eye, drowning can look just like swimming. The Instinctive Drowning Response is frequently missed, even by people nearby.
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joeseph stilton 04/05/2022 18:56
Protip: do not swim
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Брат Bird 04/05/2022 19:03
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big bro chacho 04/05/2022 19:04
Friendship is magic
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joeseph stilton 04/05/2022 19:05
cathearthow
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BrotherEyes 04/05/2022 19:56
Ultimately, the downfall of the Freemasons was giving away their stonecutting services for nothing
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If you're giving away your services for free, you're in a great spot
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BrotherEyes 04/05/2022 20:01
true
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 04/05/2022 20:02
Nobody else will provide the service and you have control over anyone using your service
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It's what companies like Google are doing
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Brother P529 04/05/2022 20:03
well but google is getting your data out of it
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Bröther öats 04/05/2022 20:10
I never knew that things from Niger are Nigerien (with an e)
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Brother Todarac
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Brother Entropy 04/05/2022 21:01
s
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Brother Todarac
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Brother Rain 04/05/2022 21:03
Why is zippie above me
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big bro chacho 04/05/2022 21:04
read the tiers
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Brother Rain
Why is zippie above me
Gebrüder Zippie 04/05/2022 21:10
is it not obvious mdma
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Brother Rain 04/05/2022 21:11
LMFAO 1
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 04/05/2022 21:12
nn list
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Brother Rain
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Brother leijurv 04/05/2022 21:21
why am i so low
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Brother Rain 04/05/2022 21:22
Read the category name
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Brother Rain
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this is racist against programmers
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broder lampa 04/05/2022 21:39
im gonna kill you
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Brother leijurv
why am i so low
broder lampa 04/05/2022 21:41
i think she hates us
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Brother Rain
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Brother F3 04/05/2022 22:27
who is Alex?
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Brother F3
who is Alex?
10010 aka ox
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joeseph stilton 04/05/2022 23:52
Oh shit oh shit
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Брат Bird 05/05/2022 01:09
Panoramic picture from the plane
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Bröther öats 05/05/2022 01:11
a fan! frog
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tell him to praise negative entropy
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big bro chacho 05/05/2022 01:39
Banana
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 05/05/2022 01:58
I grew up throwing rocks at the house of a kid who lived in a cul de sac
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WOW so you lived in the houses to the right
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 05/05/2022 02:01
nah like two rows below it
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Maybe they deserve it
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 05/05/2022 02:05
suburbs are based and city shitters can rot
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I’d rather be a homeowner in an avg suburb lol
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 05/05/2022 02:10
yes
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Brother Entropy 05/05/2022 02:14
i got my drivers license 6 years ago and i barely ever drove since (edited)
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 05/05/2022 02:26
I haven't driven a single time since I got my license (edited)
02:28
4 years basically
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fail
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Saving money at least
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 05/05/2022 02:40
I dont need to drive anywhere I can get everywhere on the bus or walking
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ßrother LordNo. 05/05/2022 05:23
Cars are overrated
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Bus is awesome cause you can ride it while high
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Or just zone out and listen to music
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Brother Nekramite 05/05/2022 14:34
Its free here as well
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ßrother LordNo.
Bus is awesome cause you can ride it while high
Brother Entropy 05/05/2022 14:42
how often does lorno take a bus
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i estimate like a couple times a year
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big bro chacho 05/05/2022 15:50
Hey piracy bros where do i pirate hig-res flac music
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@_m_e_o_w_
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@snugglebugaj
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 05/05/2022 15:51
google it
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normie music consoomers: high res original flac underground dubstep enjoyers: youtube2mp3 of the 5th reupload of a shaky video recorded on an ipod from 100 feet away
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Brother Entropy 05/05/2022 15:54
@Brother leijurv should be your first ping
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i often find song or album on piratebay (edited)
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male)
normie music consoomers: high res original flac underground dubstep enjoyers: youtube2mp3 of the 5th reupload of a shaky video recorded on an ipod from 100 feet away
Brother Nekramite 05/05/2022 15:57
based
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 05/05/2022 15:57
it still pings me if you delete it
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Brother Nekramite 05/05/2022 15:57
I know, I thought it was 2 different messages
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Brother Entropy 05/05/2022 16:13
i really wish there was a way to un-ping
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Brother leijurv 05/05/2022 16:13
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Brother Entropy 05/05/2022 16:13
if theyre not even online
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big bro chacho
Hey piracy bros where do i pirate hig-res flac music
big bro chacho 05/05/2022 16:37
@Brother leijurv help
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big bro chacho
@Brother leijurv help
private trackers
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iptorrents is nice, but I am no longer active there
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big bro chacho
@Brother leijurv help
Brother leijurv 05/05/2022 16:54
redacted.ch
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If you're serious about it I can get u an invite
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But only if you're serious
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Aka: willing to seed torrents for multiple years after downloading
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>get invited >download everything >turn off seeding >leave >troll.jpg (edited)
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 05/05/2022 17:44
I will never seed for even a microsecond
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big bro chacho 05/05/2022 17:46
Chad (edited)
17:46
Seeding is for dweebs
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male)
I will never seed for even a microsecond
status message checks out
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Brother Entropy
how often does lorno take a bus
ßrother LordNo. 05/05/2022 17:50
Never anymore. But I lived by it in my 20s.
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Brother Dectonic 05/05/2022 17:52
Seeding more like
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Not needed
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Brother Nekramite 05/05/2022 17:59
Seeding more like, I will pay a subscription fee to get this for a limited amount of time
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Brother Dectonic 05/05/2022 18:39
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Brother leijurv 05/05/2022 19:14
@TheFunnCubes wow! A building made out of stone brick in real life!
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Brother Dectonic 05/05/2022 19:18
LMAO
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Please get Todarac to do this irl
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Sticker
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Brother leijurv 05/05/2022 19:22
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Brother Dectonic 05/05/2022 19:23
I could’ve been there but finals is eating my ass :(
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I’ll see @BrotherEyes and @EnigmA_008 later though
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Brother Dectonic
I could’ve been there but finals is eating my ass :(
huge L
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Brother Dectonic
I’ll see @BrotherEyes and @EnigmA_008 later though
snugglebugaj 05/05/2022 19:27
huge power level diff
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Brother Dectonic 05/05/2022 19:31
:(
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I'll settle with the German and the Guest
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Brother Dectonic
I'll settle with the German and the Guest
EnigmA_008 05/05/2022 19:52
Well, they don't have the chance to meet a guest and girt at the same time. (edited)
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durkaa bailed
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EnigmA_008 05/05/2022 20:08
Sadly. But I'll meet him later on my tour so he will be on the graph at least.
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Brother leijurv
@TheFunnCubes wow! A building made out of stone brick in real life!
TheFunnCubes 05/05/2022 20:17
Simply incredible
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BrotherEyes 05/05/2022 20:34
Lol
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Can’t wait to see my smiblings today
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Will be jolly
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BrotherEyes
Can’t wait to see my smiblings today
you are not a smibling
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fail
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BrotherEyes 05/05/2022 20:37
But they are mine
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I'm literally with my smiblings
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BrotherEyes 05/05/2022 20:37
Smibba what?
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Brother Raaanch 05/05/2022 20:40
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Brother Dectonic 05/05/2022 20:41
Me
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Brother Raaanch 05/05/2022 20:41
Me
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Yeah we saw that, Nick
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Брат Bird 05/05/2022 20:41
MDMA 1
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hard r smib?
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Brother Dectonic 05/05/2022 20:50
Soy todarac moment
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Брат Bird 05/05/2022 21:12
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This is who your talking too on discord
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This is who destroyed your base
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Teamspeak Is Better 05/05/2022 21:13
it looks like leijurvs smoking
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 05/05/2022 21:13
this image shows why leijurv is the best at debating and that is because he is a short hair chad
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Zaanga
This is who your talking too on discord
your
too
FACEPALM
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Teamspeak Is Better 05/05/2022 21:14
libtard triggered bye grammer 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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_m_e_o_w_
your
too
FACEPALM
Cope
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Teamspeak Is Better
libtard triggered bye grammer 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
How else will I maintain my sense of superiority to the uneducated conservatives?
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Брат Bird
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Teamspeak Is Better 05/05/2022 21:15
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_m_e_o_w_
How else will I maintain my sense of superiority to the uneducated conservatives?
By crying on Reddit mdma
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snugglebugaj 05/05/2022 21:16
Im noticing a difference in masculinity
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@Brother leijurv
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Zaanga
By crying on Reddit mdma
this is no joke one of my reddit alts https://www.reddit.com/user/AFFECT_EFFECT
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Average r/politics user
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joeseph stilton 05/05/2022 21:18
oh my god i love you mothra
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this is a public service
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Brother leijurv 05/05/2022 21:21
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snugglebugaj
@Brother leijurv
Brother leijurv 05/05/2022 21:21
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Brother leijurv
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Brother Entropy 05/05/2022 22:31
does nick usually lay down like this
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BrotherEyes 05/05/2022 23:02
Me about to meet dect and enigma be like (edited)
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Asigma
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big bro chacho 05/05/2022 23:25
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big bro chacho 05/05/2022 23:25
OMG KITTEN SOCKS
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Brother leijurv 05/05/2022 23:55
CAT SOCKS
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CAT SOCKS
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CAT SOCKS
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CAT SOCKS
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CAT SOCKS
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CAT SOCKS
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 05/05/2022 23:56
why are there no custom mason socks or mason themed accessories or clothing
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get on this design masons
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Brother Entropy 06/05/2022 00:51
the anti-e book
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@Brother Floyd
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now suffer
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male)
why are there no custom mason socks or mason themed accessories or clothing
EnigmA_008 06/05/2022 02:17
Learn about the Masons at Greek Gear and stock up on your favorite Freemasons merchandise. Shop for apparel, clothing, gifts and much more.
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 06/05/2022 02:17
it ain't custom for spawnmasons
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big bro chacho 06/05/2022 02:17
Yeah this is cringe freemason larp
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We need spawnmason apparel
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EnigmA_008 06/05/2022 02:18
true. custom merch can be ordered in small numbers at some merch shops. someone just has to design that shit
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big bro chacho 06/05/2022 02:19
I would wear this
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Brother Entropy 06/05/2022 02:20
02:20
would you wear this?
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big bro chacho 06/05/2022 02:22
Yes
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Brother Entropy 06/05/2022 02:34
are geowizardmasons the same as shieymasons
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shiey makes good videos, but why does that man always dress like he is about to rob a store
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like he walks around cities looking sus af
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like when I go out to explore abandoned places or climb a buildings roof, I dont dress like im about to rob a place
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big bro chacho 06/05/2022 02:48
isnt that where napoleon was born
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wait no napoleon was born in corsica, nvm
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to be fair sardinia is riiight to the south of corsica
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Brother Entropy 06/05/2022 02:49
youre literally a descendant from a fish
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big bro chacho 06/05/2022 02:50
glub glub
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AnglerCatFlushedFish
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Brother Dectonic 06/05/2022 02:55
I'm part Sardinian
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BrotherEyes 06/05/2022 04:36
SOY.png
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Brother Entropy
are geowizardmasons the same as shieymasons
broder lampa 06/05/2022 06:59
No shiey acts pretty gay a lot of the times altho makes some cool videos
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Brother Dectonic 06/05/2022 07:11
whats wrong with acting gay?
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broder lampa 06/05/2022 07:11
Not gay as in being gay but gay as in gay
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Hope this helps!
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Brother Dectonic 06/05/2022 07:14
gay means happen :)
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Brother Entropy
are geowizardmasons the same as shieymasons
Brother Nekramite 06/05/2022 07:15
yes
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big bro chacho 06/05/2022 09:04
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Brother Fruit 06/05/2022 10:12
where did u see this image
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i just saw it recently
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Brother Fruit
where did u see this image
big bro chacho 06/05/2022 10:15
Jamescord
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Brother Fruit 06/05/2022 10:16
hmm
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Brother Dectonic 06/05/2022 15:07
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 06/05/2022 15:07
nazi cat
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Brother Dectonic 06/05/2022 15:42
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joeseph stilton 06/05/2022 15:46
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Brother Todarac 06/05/2022 16:05
gort
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Brother Hanscor 06/05/2022 16:05
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Brother Todarac 06/05/2022 16:06
do not talk about the "boston airport suburban incident"
16:06
new bottom of the iceberg moment
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So many white moms here
16:13
this is what you get at a house exhibition
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Brother Dectonic 06/05/2022 17:00
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Brother Entropy
now suffer
Brother Floyd 06/05/2022 18:25
Wat
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big bro chacho
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Brother Floyd 06/05/2022 18:25
eetalee
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snugglebugaj 06/05/2022 19:48
.
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Brother Dectonic 06/05/2022 21:31
21:34
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Brother leijurv
Aka: willing to seed torrents for multiple years after downloading
big bro chacho 06/05/2022 22:54
I dont think my moms electricity bill would like it
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Брат Bird 06/05/2022 22:55
What's your opinion? Vote now: Yes I spit on the Goose, No I do not spit on the Goose...
22:55
@everyone
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BrotherEyes 06/05/2022 22:55
dont answer guests (edited)
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Brother Raaanch 06/05/2022 22:56
Oh absolutely I would. they're flying jerks
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snugglebugaj 06/05/2022 22:56
they shit everywhere
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snugglebugaj
they shit everywhere
Брат Bird 06/05/2022 22:57
So do you???
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snugglebugaj 06/05/2022 22:57
i poo in loos
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Брат Bird 06/05/2022 22:57
I dislike the goose but I wouldn't spit on it NooooMePizzaaaaaa
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big bro chacho 06/05/2022 22:58
well
22:58
some geese are chill
22:58
my grandma's old geese were fucking spawns of satan
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 07/05/2022 01:30
me and my friends killed a goose
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Brother Raaanch 07/05/2022 01:41
Hope you cooked it. Goose is so good.
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 07/05/2022 02:00
we hid it in a bush
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and it was gone the next day
02:00
coyote probably got it
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Brother leijurv 07/05/2022 02:42
@Brother Rathause we are doing a parallel road trip
02:42
I've been watching you on Google maps
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Брат Bird 07/05/2022 03:43
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@een snail from palestine
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een snail from palestine 07/05/2022 03:44
lean monster
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Брат Bird 07/05/2022 03:44
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big bro chacho 07/05/2022 09:02
Allah will be pleased
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big bro chacho 07/05/2022 14:43
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Brother Dectonic 07/05/2022 14:46
Man.
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big bro chacho 07/05/2022 14:47
pretty ladybug
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big bro chacho
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uh what book is that? Sus
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Brother Nekramite 07/05/2022 15:23
so cute
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Brother Dectonic 07/05/2022 15:43
15:43
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Brother leijurv 07/05/2022 17:01
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Brother Todarac 07/05/2022 17:01
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Brother P529 07/05/2022 17:39
?
17:39
@broder lampa
17:39
Is this true?
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Brother Entropy 07/05/2022 17:54
take a sip
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big bro chacho 07/05/2022 18:51
@Brother Todarac for my history boy
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Brother P529
@broder lampa
Brother Anar 07/05/2022 19:40
lol wut
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big bro chacho
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Brother Fruit 07/05/2022 20:35
sir
20:35
what is this book lmfao
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Brother Fruit
what is this book lmfao
big bro chacho 07/05/2022 20:38
Its not my picture lmfao
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Brother Fruit 07/05/2022 20:39
damn...
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big bro chacho 07/05/2022 20:39
I wonder what that book is though
20:39
😳
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Brother Fruit 07/05/2022 20:39
i found it
20:40
its called Verity by Colleen Hoover
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big bro chacho 07/05/2022 20:41
Sus
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Brother Nekramite 07/05/2022 20:41
lovely book
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big bro chacho 07/05/2022 20:42
Thanks tho
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Brother Dectonic 07/05/2022 21:20
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Brother Nordic of the West 07/05/2022 21:46
@Brother P529
21:48
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Brother bread 07/05/2022 21:48
wowow
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Brother Nordic of the West 07/05/2022 21:58
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Brother P529 07/05/2022 21:58
lul
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Nice1
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Brother P529 07/05/2022 22:34
LMFAO 1
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Brother Nordic of the West 07/05/2022 22:42
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Brother Nordic of the West 07/05/2022 23:10
catflushedanglerfish lodge remains
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Brother Dectonic 07/05/2022 23:19
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Brother P529
@broder lampa
broder lampa 08/05/2022 01:09
Only Norrland
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Brother P529 08/05/2022 01:15
Damn
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Brother Dectonic 08/05/2022 04:19
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Brother Dectonic 08/05/2022 07:57
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TheFunnCubes 08/05/2022 10:35
#shotsfired
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big bro chacho 08/05/2022 11:34
pepeno
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big bro chacho 08/05/2022 13:13
@bro meow eminem posted this 💀
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 08/05/2022 13:29
I updated Discord sex to new version
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big bro chacho 08/05/2022 13:35
13:35
s/e/x
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 08/05/2022 13:35
lol phone user
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big bro chacho 08/05/2022 13:36
I cry
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 08/05/2022 14:42
(edited)
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Brother Todarac 08/05/2022 17:49
17:51
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Fish tacos better
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7k
Fish tacos better
truth
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Brother Dectonic 08/05/2022 18:39
Womp womp
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Brother Dectonic 08/05/2022 19:59
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Brother Dectonic 08/05/2022 21:27
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big bro chacho 08/05/2022 21:37
████████████████ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ████████                        ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ 
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Брат Bird 09/05/2022 00:07
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joeseph stilton 09/05/2022 00:08
😺
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Brother leijurv 09/05/2022 00:44
babbaj current faith level: -161 good boy points, +30 from 3x trans rights 0x current faith level: -3840 good boy points todarac current faith level: 50 good boy points henry current faith level: -100 good boy points ufo current faith level: 420 good boy points nick current faith level: -990 good boy points, -1000 from putting a bandage rock in todarac's beer, +10 for 1x trans rights previous block in blockchain: https://discord.com/channels/@me/685780600111890445/940837514762137690
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snugglebugaj 09/05/2022 00:59
How are we supposed to know where the head of the blockchain is
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Teamspeak Is Better 09/05/2022 01:01
what did todarac do to get 50
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Teamspeak Is Better 09/05/2022 01:12
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Teamspeak Is Better
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big bro chacho 09/05/2022 01:14
Is this recent?
01:14
Or an old screenshot
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Teamspeak Is Better 09/05/2022 01:14
i just sent it
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idk why he messaged me
01:14
pound messaged me yesterday as well
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 09/05/2022 01:15
doom
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Brother Entropy 09/05/2022 01:40
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I’m sure you claim to touch grass
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But the real question is
03:26
Do you touch sand…
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Brother Dectonic 09/05/2022 03:29
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big bro chacho 09/05/2022 03:32
@Brother leijurv
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big bro chacho 09/05/2022 04:57
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big bro chacho 09/05/2022 11:14
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joeseph stilton 09/05/2022 11:47
V4?
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Wait no pleading_face_BOLD
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joeseph stilton
Wait no pleading_face_BOLD
big bro chacho 09/05/2022 11:50
What's the matter
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big bro chacho
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TheFunnCubes 09/05/2022 12:01
Ngl this triggers my funny sense
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big bro chacho 09/05/2022 12:01
That's the point
12:24
Pretty cool ngl
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TheFunnCubes 09/05/2022 12:45
🤔 kiiinda reminds me of something
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big bro chacho 09/05/2022 12:54
Oi mate
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‘Stralia
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Brother smcz 09/05/2022 14:29
Asstralia
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joeseph stilton 09/05/2022 15:05
Sticker
15:05
😳 catflushed_BOLD
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TheFunnCubes 09/05/2022 15:15
Haha, but who knows who built that
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EnigmA_008 09/05/2022 15:49
Looks like an Orsond idea (edited)
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broder lampa 09/05/2022 15:53
i actually cant tell if youre joking or not
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broder lampa
i actually cant tell if youre joking or not
German humor
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Zaanga
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Reported
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Brother leijurv 09/05/2022 16:57
16:57
UPDATED CHART
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Brother leijurv
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Brother Dectonic 09/05/2022 17:38
attach me to silver
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EnigmA_008
Looks like an Orsond idea (edited)
TheFunnCubes 09/05/2022 17:47
Ah. Fuck. I can't believe you've done this.
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Brother leijurv
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This needs more directed edges to make it more interesting 😎
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Brother Entropy 09/05/2022 18:59
but every action is bidirectional
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Brother Entropy
but every action is bidirectional
Not green
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Brother Entropy 09/05/2022 19:50
ok but the green one literally has an arrow
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Brother Entropy
ok but the green one literally has an arrow
Yes I mean we need more things like that, so we have more arrows.
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Brother Entropy 09/05/2022 19:50
mothra likes chaos
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Brother Entropy
mothra likes chaos
You know me well
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joeseph stilton 09/05/2022 20:20
Needs a joey mothra line desperately pleading_face_BOLD 👉 👈
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big bro chacho 09/05/2022 21:32
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broder lampa 09/05/2022 21:46
:3
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Brother Entropy 10/05/2022 00:36
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Брат Bird 10/05/2022 00:49
The kittens are about to part ways in Chicago
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 00:50
kiss
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 10/05/2022 00:51
kill
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Брат Bird 10/05/2022 00:54
00:55
This pic go insanely hard
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joeseph stilton 10/05/2022 01:02
pleading_face_BOLD
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Брат Bird 10/05/2022 01:14
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Брат Bird 10/05/2022 02:00
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 10/05/2022 02:01
minion winning
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Брат Bird 10/05/2022 02:09
In shuttle
02:09
Shuttle mode activated
02:09
Can’t wait to eat salad
02:10
My carry on weighed 45 pounds and 25 of that was the beach ball
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joeseph stilton 10/05/2022 02:14
frog
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Minion ca
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Брат Bird
My carry on weighed 45 pounds and 25 of that was the beach ball
Brother leijurv 10/05/2022 02:21
sigma male moment
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Brother leijurv
sigma male moment
Брат Bird 10/05/2022 02:37
Medically challenged moment
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 03:01
Cuando juegas a 144hz y 1ms, cambia la historia, tecnología radeon freesync 2 para disfrutar de toda la acción sin parpadeos incluso a bajos fps gracias al lfc. 1ms de velocidad de respuesta gracias a la tecnología motion blur reduction, interacción en tiempo real y sin retrasos gracias a dynamic...
03:01
is this monitor good
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big bro chacho
is this monitor good
seems fine (edited)
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 03:03
is that bad
03:03
or meh
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gsync basically draws a frame as soon as it's available from the GPU, rather than using a fixed frame rate. It reduces jitter
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 03:04
ah
03:05
is that too relevant though?
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not a huge deal
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 03:05
ah alright
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if you have an nvidia card it probably is worth getting IMO
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 03:05
i just need me a 144hz monitor to go with my laptop
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:P
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freesync is similar, for amd
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 03:06
seems as monitors with gsync are considerable more expensive
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Brother Rain 10/05/2022 03:14
I cant wait til im 18 so I can join you guys in your trips meep
03:14
They look like so much fun
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 03:17
03:17
im listening to the screaming man album
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itcotck
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Brother Rain
They look like so much fun
it was so much fun
03:43
and very autistic
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bro meow
and very autistic
Брат Bird 10/05/2022 03:46
No u
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bro meow
it was so much fun
Brother Rain 10/05/2022 03:47
im jealous :(
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 03:48
dont worry rain
03:48
if you eat your veggies and study hard, one day you will be a big person too! (edited)
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Брат Bird 10/05/2022 03:49
@Brother Rain
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Respect the chicken biggie grind
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On my way! to mcdonald's
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an hour :3
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Brother Rain 10/05/2022 05:30
Bro I love chiken nuggies
05:31
cathearthow 1
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Brother Rain
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 05:36
OMG THE SCRUNKLY
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Brother Rain 10/05/2022 05:54
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 05:54
>they who'd rebane
05:54
Mfw
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Brother Rain 10/05/2022 05:55
Wdym
05:55
I don’t see no popstonia skin
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 05:55
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Lol noob
05:55
This is the rebane2001 account skin
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Brother Rain
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Брат Bird 10/05/2022 05:57
I lov you im sorry i give you shit 😦
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Brother Rain
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 05:57
Wheres this list
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Brother Dectonic 10/05/2022 06:33
Fruit loop
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 10/05/2022 07:15
Listen to rap boy u fuck
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 10/05/2022 07:16
its all bad because its not dubstep (edited)
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WarLordN1k 10/05/2022 07:55
nerd
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 09:14
09:14
@Brother leijurv
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 10/05/2022 13:25
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 13:26
26?
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16/4 = 4
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4 + 22 = 26
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OH MY GOD ITS DIFFERENT WHEN YOU CLICK IT
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Let me see if it's different when you reload
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Huh its not
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Weird
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How do you keep coming to with tacky tricks
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Brother Dectonic 10/05/2022 14:15
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 14:47
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big bro chacho
OH MY GOD ITS DIFFERENT WHEN YOU CLICK IT
TheFunnCubes 10/05/2022 15:11
it is also different on pc and mobile
15:12
what is it supposed to be
15:12
ive only ever seen 28/4 + 18
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TheFunnCubes 10/05/2022 15:13
15:13
15:14
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first 2 are on my phone, the other 2 are on my pc
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 15:15
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TheFunnCubes 10/05/2022 15:15
pretty sure it's different for every device now.... not sure on what it depends on... your ip?
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 15:15
Insanity
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TheFunnCubes
pretty sure it's different for every device now.... not sure on what it depends on... your ip?
big bro chacho 10/05/2022 15:15
Maybe
15:15
15:15
Rebane advanced trolling
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Hah
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TheFunnCubes 10/05/2022 15:16
yeah dude.
15:16
the longer you look at it the more fucked it is 😂
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 10/05/2022 15:16
It's using the same trick as
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(edited)
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 15:16
Sex
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 15:16
Yes kitten (pony) (edited)
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 10/05/2022 15:16
This pony will be different for everypony
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 15:17
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 10/05/2022 15:17
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Cute ponies
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 15:17
15:17
I am happy with my results
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7/10 needs more rarity
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 10/05/2022 15:17
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TheFunnCubes 10/05/2022 15:17
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 15:17
Why is applejack looking at me like that 😟 😧
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Choker on too
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This is fucked up
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TheFunnCubes 10/05/2022 15:17
cathearthow 1
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 15:18
Aww
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TheFunnCubes 10/05/2022 15:18
yeah
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big bro chacho
Why is applejack looking at me like that 😟 😧
TheFunnCubes 10/05/2022 15:18
pov you're the apple
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 15:19
I wish she would pick me
15:19
😞
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TheFunnCubes 10/05/2022 15:34
So you wrote that sign in the pony at smib!! (edited)
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Everypony is good at math
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Brother leijurv 10/05/2022 20:29
abstain_neutral 2
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Teamspeak Is Better 10/05/2022 20:53
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Брат Bird 10/05/2022 21:25
They called me crazy
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Brother Entropy 10/05/2022 21:25
what do you use the 4th monitor for
21:25
the one high up
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Брат Bird 10/05/2022 21:26
A fireplace idk
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Brother Entropy 10/05/2022 21:27
but the shark.......
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Brother Entropy
but the shark.......
Брат Bird 10/05/2022 21:29
Their name is BLÅHAJETTE
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Brother DarkX 10/05/2022 21:29
torturing small animals smh
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Брат Bird 10/05/2022 21:30
spitting on geese smh
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Brother DarkX 10/05/2022 21:30
what was the final outcome of the vote?
21:30
i voted that i would never spit on one
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Брат Bird 10/05/2022 21:31
21:31
God I love democracy
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@Brother leijurv @bro meow @snugglebugaj @Brother Todarac
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snugglebugaj 10/05/2022 21:33
i chose yes
thistbh 1
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I'm a minority
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Брат Bird
They called me crazy
where's the blotter art
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bro meow
where's the blotter art
Брат Bird 10/05/2022 21:36
Sitting in a safe place waiting to be framed OwO
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mini said she wouldnt spit on a goose
21:38
spit on a goose bf with wont spit on a goose gf
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Брат Bird
They called me crazy
big bro chacho 10/05/2022 21:42
Why do you have a bootleg blahaj
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bro meow
spit on a goose bf with wont spit on a goose gf
big bro chacho 10/05/2022 21:43
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Now, would your cat spit on a goose
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bro meow
mini said she wouldnt spit on a goose
Брат Bird 10/05/2022 21:43
Mini based
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 21:44
I voted no spit but
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Theres a particular set of geese that i would spit and piss on
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i would spit on nick
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 21:44
My grandma's dead geese (rest in piss bozo)
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@Brother leijurv
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 22:15
this is a shitpost
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Brother leijurv 10/05/2022 22:15
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Walking by the swastika building again ama
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 22:15
do you feel a strong urge to question historical events? (edited)
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Брат Bird 10/05/2022 22:15
Cant stay away can you
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 22:15
itcotck
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Брат Bird
Cant stay away can you
Brother leijurv 10/05/2022 22:16
I call this walk the "palestinean pilgrimage"
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cut 1
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Brother Dectonic 10/05/2022 22:18
That’s a voco wall
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how dare they lean their bike against the voco wall
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big bro chacho 10/05/2022 22:39
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Kharkiv kid finder
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Brother Entropy 11/05/2022 00:20
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Sister Clover 11/05/2022 01:14
kind of disappointed how normal mine is
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Brother leijurv 11/05/2022 01:17
aw that ping about the cat makes me sad
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my kitty keeper died of the same thing, intestinal lymphoma, in 2018
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Bröther öats 11/05/2022 02:00
3:
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Brother Raaanch 11/05/2022 02:02
cat_shocked
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Brother bread 11/05/2022 02:50
what is the time above the namtags
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Brother Entropy 11/05/2022 02:52
online time
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Brother bread 11/05/2022 02:54
wtf you can be online for 10 hours?
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i thought the limit was 6 hours
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Brother Entropy 11/05/2022 02:55
queue is included apparently
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Brother bread 11/05/2022 03:00
oh ok cool
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Brother leijurv 11/05/2022 04:18
04:51
Jumbo finally leaked a classic
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Brother Dectonic 11/05/2022 06:58
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Teamspeak Is Better 11/05/2022 09:50
i cant wait for summer
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how do some people do phds
09:50
i litterally dont udnerstand
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big bro chacho 11/05/2022 10:20
They hate themselves (edited)
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Brother leijurv 11/05/2022 10:26
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big bro chacho 11/05/2022 10:29
The good ending
10:37
@Brother Entropy kitten i go a 19.4 in math
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(/20)
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Brother Entropy 11/05/2022 10:42
mleow$
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Brother Entropy 11/05/2022 11:38
this is what prio q should be
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Brother smcz 11/05/2022 12:09
I like that
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big bro chacho 11/05/2022 14:04
Masonic problems, 100% of masons suffer from this
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Bröther öats 11/05/2022 14:06
💯 3
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Brother Entropy 11/05/2022 16:10
i love free garbage when baritoneing highway
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Брат Bird 11/05/2022 16:58
Go ahead liberal, eat the pineapple
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Брат Bird 11/05/2022 17:32
At one point the suspect removes a bicycle from a building and sets it to the side. He then rolls out a lawnmower, fills it with gas and gets to work.
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Your welcome
18:41
That was me
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Obv
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Brother Dectonic 11/05/2022 18:53
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Brother Todarac 11/05/2022 19:15
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Brother Nekramite 11/05/2022 19:23
blimey
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big bro chacho 11/05/2022 19:27
Qwite silly
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big bro chacho 11/05/2022 19:34
@Brother leijurv
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@_m_e_o_w_
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@snugglebugaj
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Brother leijurv 11/05/2022 19:35
Link
19:35
I will attend
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big bro chacho 11/05/2022 19:35
umbrella.com
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snugglebugaj 11/05/2022 19:35
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Brother Entropy 11/05/2022 19:36
wait is this not a joke
19:36
im confused
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big bro chacho 11/05/2022 19:36
You cant know for sure ig
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I don't think so tho
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missing out on the descent into global chaos as unfettered climate destruction causes mass famine, migration, and war
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Brother Entropy 11/05/2022 19:37
i meant the socks
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missing out on the descent into global chaos as unfettered climate destruction causes mass famine, migration, and war
big bro chacho 11/05/2022 19:38
He missed late stage capitalism!
19:38
Or the further development of it, i guess
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This looks like Reddit right now
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big bro chacho 11/05/2022 19:39
You would know, guest reddit
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big bro chacho 11/05/2022 19:40
Brother reddit would be proud
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Reddit threads concerning climate change are so doomer is funny
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I’ve literally seen people who claim they aren’t even saving for retirement because they believe they will die from climate change
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Zaanga
I’ve literally seen people who claim they aren’t even saving for retirement because they believe they will die from climate change
Teamspeak Is Better 11/05/2022 20:11
i mean
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shrug
20:11
its got a better change of happening then world war three
20:20
Get fucked rockets.
20:21
Yeet Space Technology is here
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Brother P529 11/05/2022 20:27
Oof, i dont wanna be near the machine that spins up a whole shuttle worth of weight to enough rpm to launch to space
20:28
I dont even like standing next to my fucking washing machine when its in spin cycle
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Brother Raaanch 11/05/2022 20:29
Isn’t that inefficient?
20:30
“Hey, we want to take your trillion dollar piece of tech and put it in to a centrifuge for the next 6 hours for it to reach terminal velocity and then let Jesus take the wheel.”
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Brother Entropy 11/05/2022 20:33
its energetically beneficial
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Brother Raaanch 11/05/2022 20:33
You’re energetically beneficial (edited)
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Brother Entropy 11/05/2022 20:33
you can tune any system to work reliable but who knows if this will
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i dont think you can put a hooooman in this at 5 million G
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Brother Raaanch 11/05/2022 20:34
Chunky salsa
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Brother Entropy 11/05/2022 20:34
yum
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Humanity has created a world with space ships while others still use horses as transport
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Society moment lol
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Brother Raaanch 11/05/2022 21:03
So… put the horse in the centrifuge. And profit!
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So true
21:16
Hire this man immediately
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Brother Dectonic 11/05/2022 21:18
Kill everyone
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Zaanga
Humanity has created a world with space ships while others still use horses as transport
Brother leijurv 11/05/2022 22:00
Just wait until you hear about how I got to class today
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(I walked)
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big bro chacho 11/05/2022 22:10
I walk to and from school daily
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@Zaanga
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so true
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Brother leijurv
(I walked)
Communist
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Communist
he is a dem soc (human scum)
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I walk to and from school daily
When I was your age I walked to and from school every day UP HILL BOTH WAYS
redpill 2
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Brother Rain 11/05/2022 22:24
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When I was your age I walked to and from school every day UP HILL BOTH WAYS
big bro chacho 11/05/2022 22:27
kek
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Brother Dectonic 11/05/2022 23:29
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Brother Entropy 12/05/2022 00:55
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Brother bread 12/05/2022 01:15
🩸
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big bro chacho 12/05/2022 01:15
thats what my pee looks like
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Brother bread 12/05/2022 01:18
nice
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big bro chacho 12/05/2022 01:21
bruh???
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big bro chacho 12/05/2022 01:26
the average pink floyd fan @ßrother LordNo.
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Brother Fruit 12/05/2022 02:36
lmfao
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si overfly still here
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overfloyd
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big bro chacho 12/05/2022 02:38
@Brother Floyd
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he is!
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Brother Fruit 12/05/2022 02:38
y wud u ping
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big bro chacho 12/05/2022 02:38
to annoy him (i hate Italians)
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Brother Fruit 12/05/2022 02:42
based
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Bröther öats 12/05/2022 02:56
overfloyd was active for a bit around christmas because he got covid
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Brother Entropy 12/05/2022 03:16
you know what to do
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Brother Nordic of the West 12/05/2022 03:17
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maxi will never become a Mason
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joeseph stilton 12/05/2022 03:36
i agree but whered that come from lmao
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big bro chacho 12/05/2022 03:37
maxi should quit and never return
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would be funny i think 😸
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Brother Nordic of the West 12/05/2022 03:39
im logging into all my alts on test
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big bro chacho 12/05/2022 03:39
👍
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Brother leijurv 12/05/2022 03:41
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Brother Nordic of the West 12/05/2022 03:41
so many cool griefed / abandoned bases im at :(
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Brother leijurv 12/05/2022 03:42
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big bro chacho 12/05/2022 03:50
03:50
new discord feature
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vc text is integrated in vc now
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not in all servers tho
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ThinkMultiply
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Bröther öats 12/05/2022 03:51
it's in futur
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Брат Bird 12/05/2022 04:11
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Brother Todarac 12/05/2022 07:31
sooOOooOoOOoOOOoooo true
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Брат Bird 12/05/2022 15:48
Winning
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Брат Bird
Winning
big bro chacho 12/05/2022 16:33
Based department
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Брат Bird 12/05/2022 17:41
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big bro chacho 12/05/2022 17:52
Depends on what he needs the monitors for
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@Брат Bird
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bro meow
@Брат Bird
Брат Bird 12/05/2022 18:18
@bro meow
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Брат Bird
@bro meow
thats you
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TheFunnCubes 12/05/2022 18:21
I mean he has 2 Monitors he doesn't do squigly dick on, so obviously he's a dumb idiot. Everyone can find shit to do on any Extra Monitor.
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bro meow
thats you
Брат Bird 12/05/2022 18:23
Ur mom
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Brother Entropy 12/05/2022 19:22
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Brother DarkX 12/05/2022 19:33
wow, very clean
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Bröther öats 12/05/2022 19:35
is that the work computer?
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24 gb of vram! this is the 'work' computer
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Brother Entropy 12/05/2022 19:37
I only just got admin so now i can install minecraft on the workstation mdma
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its actually crazy how fast tech becomes obsolete
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i know this test is biased for gaming performance and thats not the point of this card, but still
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Brother Entropy
I only just got admin so now i can install minecraft on the workstation mdma
highly productive employee
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Bröther öats 12/05/2022 20:57
let's goo
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Bröther öats
let's goo
Tell that to Snelly
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joeseph stilton 12/05/2022 21:31
catflushed_BOLD
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Brother Dectonic 12/05/2022 21:35
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Bröther öats 12/05/2022 22:40
the oval world
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All-Mine-No-Block
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Brother Dectonic 12/05/2022 23:05
All-Mine-No-Block
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Brother Entropy 13/05/2022 01:22
01:22
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 02:19
Marcel amazes me, he can not message me for months and out of the blue I’ll get some shit like this
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 13/05/2022 02:20
the guardsmen were right
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 02:21
Marcel outta have his name on the 2b2t timeline
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That scene in endgame when dr strange like bald lady explains the alternative timeline theory but if I never sat next to marcel in English class
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 13/05/2022 02:22
marcel writes the history books
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Брат Bird
Marcel amazes me, he can not message me for months and out of the blue I’ll get some shit like this
what is it
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it's just a scrape on her knee?
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God I love Marcel
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 13/05/2022 02:35
ui designers be like we cant leave stuff as it is or we get fired so every few months lets just completely fuck with it so everyone is constantly complaining for us to fix it so we stay employed
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ux researcher be like " you're gonna love this"
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 13/05/2022 02:40
we heard you liked comments so we put a button below the video that moves the comments to the side of the video
02:42
well at least now i can hate on this woman caster while watching the video at the same time
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Brother Entropy 13/05/2022 03:41
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important sm history
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Brother Nordic of the West 13/05/2022 03:50
AnglerCatFlushedFish
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 04:20
I set up my fourth monitor to constantly play the 2003 movie "Holes" on repeat
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Its an atmosphere thing
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I think Im going to have it running like a windows 95 vm with holes playing
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joeseph stilton 13/05/2022 04:22
Stanley Yelnets
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 05:04
@Brother Todarac
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Brother Todarac 13/05/2022 05:09
omg the sword and blahajette
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im not even kidding, thats one of my favorite images thats ever been taken of me
05:17
better wallpapers here
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 05:17
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Brother Dectonic 13/05/2022 05:18
amazing
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 05:31
Now it will play Holes with a vlc acid filter until the end of time
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 05:44
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Brother Dectonic 13/05/2022 06:14
06:14
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 06:43
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Brother Dectonic 13/05/2022 06:44
I need earrings
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@Brother Todarac
TheFunnCubes 13/05/2022 07:34
Don't most Americans have their peepee cut because of cornflakes man?
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TheFunnCubes
Don't most Americans have their peepee cut because of cornflakes man?
Брат Bird 13/05/2022 07:36
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TheFunnCubes 13/05/2022 07:37
So.... there wouldn't be much of a way to tell if they're Jewish or not...
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 07:39
True most people are circumcised anyway because it’s better
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An uncircumcised penis is a sad penis
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Brother leijurv 13/05/2022 08:46
08:49
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Wow they made a meme about pint sending photos
LMFAO 1
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Brother leijurv
Wow they made a meme about pint sending photos
big bro chacho 13/05/2022 08:55
LMFAO
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Brother leijurv 13/05/2022 08:57
08:57
I love learning about other cultures
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big bro chacho 13/05/2022 09:30
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big bro chacho 13/05/2022 10:04
The left will murder babies AND your family! /s (edited)
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big bro chacho 13/05/2022 12:26
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Lets stop trolling
12:26
Lets start jerking chains
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Sister Clover 13/05/2022 13:04
we should all strive to be like this man
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Brother leijurv
Wow they made a meme about pint sending photos
Brother Pint 13/05/2022 14:15
Sticker
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Bröther öats 13/05/2022 14:52
why is the filesize so big
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Brother Entropy
I only just got admin so now i can install minecraft on the workstation mdma
Brother Entropy 13/05/2022 15:28
i now have remote desktop access mdma
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Bröther öats 13/05/2022 15:30
lets goo
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but didn't you also have a gpu with 64 or 48 gb vram
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we need that one
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Brother Entropy 13/05/2022 15:30
no i believe this is the only one
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Bröther öats 13/05/2022 15:32
well 24 is already very good. the azure one was probably comparable
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I think it was a p40
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 15:40
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big bro chacho 13/05/2022 15:46
libtard
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Brother DarkX 13/05/2022 16:47
step-dad bird
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would u smoke weed with lain and rei
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I already do smoke weed with rei
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big bro chacho 13/05/2022 16:56
based
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are you lain? catflushed_help
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bro meow
I already do smoke weed with rei
Teamspeak Is Better 13/05/2022 17:45
rei is 14
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🚨
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Teamspeak Is Better
rei is 14
so?
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what's the problem
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Brother Rain 13/05/2022 18:27
Amogus
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I’m so bored
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big bro chacho 13/05/2022 18:32
watch better call saul
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 18:36
I’m trying to think of what to do with this apple g3
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@bro meow Playing 2b on an apple g3?
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do it
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Brother Rain
Amogus
Among
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Brother Entropy 13/05/2022 19:06
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 19:12
The noises this thing is making smh
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Brother Dectonic 13/05/2022 19:13
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 19:17
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😼
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Brother Rain 13/05/2022 19:20
Play 2b2t
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Actually is it possible to play 2b on a calculator
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Brother Raaanch 13/05/2022 19:28
It's so hot out you could fry a cat on the sidewalk... My grey shirt is see through from the sweat of working on my vehicle. I want to ruin your day by implanting that vision in your brain.
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Brother Rain
Actually is it possible to play 2b on a calculator
joeseph stilton 13/05/2022 19:28
0neb did it with one in brain
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 20:07
Omg amazing! Install OpenBSD on it 😄
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ßrother LordNo.
Omg amazing! Install OpenBSD on it 😄
Брат Bird 13/05/2022 20:15
Right now Im stuck at something thats permission denying me to do this apk command
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Any linux gods in the chat
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big bro chacho 13/05/2022 20:19
@snugglebugaj
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 20:24
Babba is only a Nix god
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 20:53
mfw you format the drive wipe the os and use the optical drive for install but you cant eject the disk anymore so when the install fails for brick your pc because theres NO way to eject now
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lmfao
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 20:56
I have to replace the disk drive now
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My life be like oooh
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I should have just put ubuntu or some shit on it
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Brother Todarac 13/05/2022 21:47
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Брат Bird
mfw you format the drive wipe the os and use the optical drive for install but you cant eject the disk anymore so when the install fails for brick your pc because theres NO way to eject now
ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 22:23
There should be a small hole to the side of the drive you can stick a paper clip into
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mfw you format the drive wipe the os and use the optical drive for install but you cant eject the disk anymore so when the install fails for brick your pc because theres NO way to eject now
Teamspeak Is Better 13/05/2022 22:28
take the whole drive out
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hit it with a rock
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get ur installation disk back ez
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There should be a small hole to the side of the drive you can stick a paper clip into
Брат Bird 13/05/2022 22:38
Apparently they didn't put these in the drives for the g3
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holy shit, this is a classic
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ßrother LordNo.
There should be a small hole to the side of the drive you can stick a paper clip into
this hole you mean?
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mfw you format the drive wipe the os and use the optical drive for install but you cant eject the disk anymore so when the install fails for brick your pc because theres NO way to eject now
you must be a youngser if you've never had to do this 😂
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 22:58
I tried to put adelea linux for ppc on it, but the directory for apk commands or whatever is offline or something
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So I cant fetch the install shit
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And now I cant get the disk out so I can't try another linux build
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Брат Bird
And now I cant get the disk out so I can't try another linux build
huh, does it even try to eject? (motor sounds), or nothing?
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Брат Bird
And now I cant get the disk out so I can't try another linux build
and you're sure you can't do this? https://support.apple.com/zh-cn/HT2225
This article explains how to manually eject a CD-ROM (or DVD-ROM) disc from a slot loading drive.
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the manual ejection might be hidden in the side of the slot (edited)
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not a separate hole
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Teamspeak Is Better 13/05/2022 23:04
just pull hard
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Teamspeak Is Better
just pull hard
how to set a fracture
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Teamspeak Is Better 13/05/2022 23:04
or take the opitcal drive out and plug it into your other device
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then just click eject
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how to set a fracture
Teamspeak Is Better 13/05/2022 23:05
how to give yourself anal prolapse
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Teamspeak Is Better
how to give yourself anal prolapse
pretty sure that involves pushing hard, specifically extremely large dildos
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Teamspeak Is Better 13/05/2022 23:05
depends which end you're on
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touche
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:06
Might have bricked the optical drive trying to use tweezers but Ill try this now
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Брат Bird
Might have bricked the optical drive trying to use tweezers but Ill try this now
probably not, those things are hard to damage
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Брат Bird
Might have bricked the optical drive trying to use tweezers but Ill try this now
Teamspeak Is Better 13/05/2022 23:06
once again, the rock method never fails
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@Teamspeak Is Better have you seen actual patients yet? if so, how many of them had objects mysteriously in their rectum?
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@Teamspeak Is Better have you seen actual patients yet? if so, how many of them had objects mysteriously in their rectum?
Teamspeak Is Better 13/05/2022 23:07
i havent
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well actually i have but it was community health based
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ah
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:08
OMG
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IT WORKED
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Брат Bird
IT WORKED
FUCK YEAH
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:08
Okay what distro do I put on it
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arch
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Брат Bird
Okay what distro do I put on it
Teamspeak Is Better 13/05/2022 23:08
windows 11
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:08
Find me a ppc version
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I have to find my exact model I think because of the different mhz of the ppc models
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Im also guessing its 32x but i really dont know
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I'm not sure if any current distros actually support PPC ;/
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I have to find my exact model I think because of the different mhz of the ppc models
Teamspeak Is Better 13/05/2022 23:10
now you know where the eject button is
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you can go ham
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you could try Debian 6 maybe @Брат Bird ?
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a very old debian version
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:10
Lordno said OpenBSD
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7 might support it
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not sure though
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DISCLAIMER: This guide is provided with the hope that it will prove useful and has been tested for a handful of G3s, several G4s, and most G5s. Overall, your millage may vary. This is a WikiPost, so if anyone has any contributions, feel free to contribute. @z970mp deserves all of the credit for...
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it should support G3 iMacs
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:25
Someone actively updates openbsd for ppc for some reason so I’m going with that
poggersfast 1
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I really should get the converter from the g3 hard drive format to sata so I can use a ssd
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But I’ve ordered it twice and it’s never came
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Брат Bird
But I’ve ordered it twice and it’s never came
where did you find the iMac itself?
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where did you find the iMac itself?
Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:34
In the middle of nowhere in michigan
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In the middle of nowhere in michigan
nice find
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:38
These guides are impossible smh
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I typed boot and it sperged out on me
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Nick
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:39
ITS BEEPING AT EM
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WTF
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I tried to turn it off in the terminal
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Terminal beep strikes again
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:40
in terminal or in open firmware?
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:40
Thats what Im following
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I dont think Im in open firmware
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:40
Did you hold down the Command, Option, O, and F keys at boot?
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:41
Okay Im in open firmware
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:41
do you have a bootable OpenBSD install cd?
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:41
I have the install71 with everything burned to it
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But it just ejected the disk in openfirmware
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:42
try this command
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boot cd:,ofwboot /7.1/macppc/bsd.rd
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:44
AHH
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:44
?
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:44
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:44
sexy
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:44
Okay I got this far last time but it got weird
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Autoinstall?
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:45
shrug
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try it
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ßrother LordNo.
try it
Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:46
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:47
it seems as though autoinstall is an nfs install method
23:47
which is probably why it is trying to connect to the internet
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:48
But its connected to the internet
23:48
I pinged google before just not with openbsd
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:50
try typing gem0?
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:51
Now it wont let me set a password for root account
23:51
Like I cant even type
23:51
Just press enter
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:52
you can tyoe, it just wont show you
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it doesnt showe the characters when you type
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:53
I just realized that lmao
23:54
Its working I think
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:55
sweet
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:55
23:55
What is the stuff in blue saying I’m so confused
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:55
USB devices with sketchy connections?
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:55
Is that an issue as long as theyre working
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:56
shouldn't be
23:56
try unplugging your mouse and see if it keeps hapenning
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and unplug the keyboard
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:56
unplugged the mouse and it looks like it stopped
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Hopefully It gets rid of the partitions from my last attempt
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:57
lol
23:57
I would imagine that it will ask you to reformat
23:58
are you going to dualboot?
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:58
Nah I wiped 9.6 or whatever it was
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ßrother LordNo. 13/05/2022 23:58
MacOS 9 was the best
23:58
I loved that version
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Брат Bird 13/05/2022 23:59
Its installing and extracting but not asking for partition info or anything yet
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ßrother LordNo. 14/05/2022 00:00
yeah, it may just be installing enough in pram or whatever to launch an initialization tool for formatting
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 00:07
Yeah idk it said it installed but It wont boot
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Brother Todarac 14/05/2022 00:07
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ßrother LordNo. 14/05/2022 00:07
that is normal
00:07
you maybe have to manually boot OpenBSD from open firmware
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 00:08
I got into open firmware
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ßrother LordNo. 14/05/2022 00:08
boot /bsd
00:08
or boot ide1:,ofwboot /bsd
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Brother Todarac
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Brother Raaanch 14/05/2022 00:08
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 00:09
Ugh cant open
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Brother Todarac 14/05/2022 00:10
kek ranch
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 00:37
Id have more luck putting temple os on this
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 00:47
@ßrother LordNo. I tried my best smh
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 14/05/2022 00:53
mac user fail
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ßrother LordNo. 14/05/2022 00:55
its tough man
00:56
I would check which drive has it installed
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Brother Entropy 14/05/2022 00:57
excuse me what the fuck is going on
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Brother Entropy
excuse me what the fuck is going on
Брат Bird 14/05/2022 00:57
Finally
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Brother Entropy 14/05/2022 00:57
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Brother Entropy
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 00:57
trollepic
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Brother Entropy 14/05/2022 00:58
why arae two of you typing and the rest not
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 00:58
My minions are at work
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Brother Entropy 14/05/2022 00:58
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Brother bread 14/05/2022 01:04
guest takeover
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Brother leijurv 14/05/2022 01:26
“I wanted to investigate the concept of creation, not only the way a child enters the world through a woman’s vagina, but also the way an artist gives birth to creativity,” the artist explained.
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go ahead idiot buy the vagina nft
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Brother Entropy
excuse me what the fuck is going on
Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 14/05/2022 01:44
I am inside your pc.
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Brother Entropy 14/05/2022 01:48
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Brother Entropy
excuse me what the fuck is going on
Constructor 14/05/2022 01:48
How does discord know iam a bot oO
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Brother Entropy 14/05/2022 01:48
i know right
01:49
this is what triggered me at first
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i was like wtf he has that role?
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Constructor 14/05/2022 01:49
Looks like your discord goes crazy 😄
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Brother Entropy 14/05/2022 01:50
sage just keeps growing
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Constructor 14/05/2022 01:50
I just installed sage maths. But I ended up with matlab
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Was tired of wolfram to exceed computing time
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 02:12
Chad not spit on a goose vs sigma spitting on goose
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 02:26
The last version of Ubuntu that supports 32x ppc
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Брат Bird
The last version of Ubuntu that supports 32x ppc
Good luck
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 02:29
NOO I downloaded the server iso
02:29
I’m setting up a server
02:29
It’s all working but smh
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Oof
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 02:31
Society if we hosted the creative server on the iMac g3
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java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
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Brother leijurv 14/05/2022 02:32
java.lang.OutOfBitchesError 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 (average maidenless programmer)
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 02:33
You’re using language outside of my expertise
02:33
Ie I’ve googled every step of this process
02:34
God this thing is so loud and annoying
02:34
(Like your mom)
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Brother leijurv
java.lang.OutOfBitchesError 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 😹 (average maidenless programmer)
Meme overhead limit exceeded
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snugglebugaj 14/05/2022 02:34
try void
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 02:35
This one is from 2001
02:35
The last g3 they made
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snugglebugaj 14/05/2022 02:35
is it powerpc
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 02:35
It can run tiger from 2007 though
02:35
Yeah ppc but the g4 is a 64x I’m pretty sure
02:35
G3 is 32x
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Брат Bird
G3 is 32x
Just don’t use more than 4GiB of RAM that’s the only difference mdma
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 02:37
02:37
I wonder if I could convert the display and build a modern pc in it with a itx board
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Maybe? That would be epic troll.
02:38
@Brother Todarac stop this madness
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Perhaps put an LCD behind the glass?
02:39
You could disassemble the CRT and leave only the front curved glass
02:39
That would leave plenty of space
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Then run GPU based CRT simulation filter (edited)
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Zaanga
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Where does Margaret Thatcher fit into this?
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idk ping finstaa
02:41
im sure he a opinion on where mdma
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big bro chacho 14/05/2022 02:41
Pissing on the sink actually godtier
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02:41
Its a pleasure that only people whove done it know
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_m_e_o_w_
Then run GPU based CRT simulation filter (edited)
Brother leijurv 14/05/2022 02:47
critical race theory
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big bro chacho
Pissing on the sink actually godtier
Brother leijurv 14/05/2022 02:47
gotta try this someday
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 02:51
I wish I knew anything about servers Im just finishing the install so I can put a desktop copy on it
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I needed a really old copy that supports 32x ppc
02:52
02:52
Lamp server when
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Brother Dectonic 14/05/2022 02:58
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Brother Rain 14/05/2022 03:00
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Brother Dectonic 14/05/2022 03:37
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Bröther öats 14/05/2022 03:39
is that your cat
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Brother Dectonic 14/05/2022 03:41
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 04:28
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Brother Dectonic
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 04:28
I got trolled
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Brother Rain 14/05/2022 04:28
cute
04:28
duckies
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:3
04:43
@Brother leijurv
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 14/05/2022 04:48
i kill bikers with my car
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Bröther öats 14/05/2022 04:59
it's all an act
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 14/05/2022 05:02
why do you think i dont drive
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Bröther öats
it's all an act
ßrother LordNo. 14/05/2022 05:52
Imagine that. He kills bikers with his car, and he doesn’t drive.
05:53
That is how bad ass he is
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 07:02
About to get the first mason tattoo
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Brother leijurv 14/05/2022 07:29
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 07:32
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Brother Raaanch 14/05/2022 07:33
Smib on my balls
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Brother leijurv 14/05/2022 07:46
07:49
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 07:49
@everyone first mason tattoo
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TheFunnCubes 14/05/2022 07:49
Smib
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broder lampa 14/05/2022 07:50
this is awesome
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Brother leijurv 14/05/2022 07:50
FOOT
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Gebrüder Zippie 14/05/2022 07:57
Smib
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Брат Bird
@everyone first mason tattoo
Sister Clover 14/05/2022 07:57
yoooo wtf
07:57
this is great
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Brother smcz 14/05/2022 08:03
Thats awesome
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 08:07
Explaining 2147 to my friend without leaking mason secrets be like
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BrotherEyes 14/05/2022 12:56
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Brother Dectonic 14/05/2022 13:01
I hope you weren’t drunk
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BrotherEyes 14/05/2022 13:05
looks like sharpie
13:05
kidding lol
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Брат Bird
Explaining 2147 to my friend without leaking mason secrets be like
Brother Nekramite 14/05/2022 14:19
now get the 1st degree gang 2nd degree gang 3rd degree gang 4th degree smib gang 2147 gang smib on ma balls gang tattoo
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big bro chacho 14/05/2022 14:35
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ßrother LordNo. 14/05/2022 15:50
a Ukrainian
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broder lampa 14/05/2022 15:59
What
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big bro chacho
@Brother leijurv @Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/950433216924377109/974825875382108190/unknown.png
Brother Dectonic 14/05/2022 16:18
Me
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big bro chacho 14/05/2022 16:22
Ah, america
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big bro chacho
Ah, america
post birth abortion
16:59
the only kind of abortion that Republicans support
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joeseph stilton 14/05/2022 17:15
Abortion should be legal up to the 63rd trimester
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joeseph stilton
Abortion should be legal up to the 63rd trimester
Brother Raaanch 14/05/2022 17:43
I agree. In celebration I’m going to open up an abortion clinic and pizzeria. “Yesterday’s loss is today’s sauce.”
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 14/05/2022 17:43
this only happened after they let men give birth
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joeseph stilton 14/05/2022 17:44
🍕
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 18:07
I gave myself that tattoo and it was my first one
18:07
Hurt like a mf
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 18:59
19:00
Also touched up the duck
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Brother Entropy 14/05/2022 19:03
whats the plastic wrap for
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Brother Entropy
whats the plastic wrap for
Брат Bird 14/05/2022 19:05
It’s like fake skin with this stuff that helps keep it dry and sterilized
19:05
A tattoo is an open wound 😼
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ßrother LordNo. 14/05/2022 19:07
Just wait till it starts oozing and the plastic sheet turns into a bag of blood, ooz, and ink stick to his body
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ßrother LordNo.
Just wait till it starts oozing and the plastic sheet turns into a bag of blood, ooz, and ink stick to his body
Брат Bird 14/05/2022 19:14
Not with this small of a tattoo, for my sleeve, yeah it was just a bag of ink and blood for a week
19:14
But you should avoid opening it or removing it because it heals much faster with it
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He also did my sleeve in like 6 hours and in one session
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ßrother LordNo. 14/05/2022 19:24
Damn
19:24
Absolute rock
19:24
My wife is similar
19:24
She’s sat through some 5+ hour sessions
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 19:25
19:25
Me when the tattoo artist tells me I sat like a champ
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ßrother LordNo. 14/05/2022 19:25
Haha it’s a good feeling
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Брат Bird
Click to see attachment 🖼️
please tell me you're joking
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broder lampa 14/05/2022 19:30
hater
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bro meow
please tell me you're joking
Брат Bird 14/05/2022 19:32
Why would I joke
19:33
This is poggers I wanted a mason tattoo without putting the free mason logo on me
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Brother Dectonic 14/05/2022 19:34
Should’ve gotten “Dectonic Exploit on Top” on you
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Or “smib on my balls”
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That one’s cool ig
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Brother smcz 14/05/2022 19:35
lol
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 19:36
I don’t believe in the dectonic exploit
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 20:53
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Brother Dectonic 14/05/2022 21:25
@Sister Пепси Мальчик (male)
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Brother leijurv 14/05/2022 21:42
put $5 bill into vending machine get $1 pepsi it drops out 21 quarters (worth $5.25)
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Not only was the Pepsi free, I actually made a 1 quarter profit
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This is why Pepsi is better than coke
cat_cool 3
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 21:52
Tried to put all these Linux distros on my iMac g3 and not a single one worked
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Brother Dectonic 14/05/2022 21:53
Incoming “did you try nix” comment from Babbaj
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 21:55
He told me id have to compile myself or something
21:55
Not doing it
21:55
The return of the king
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Brother Dectonic 14/05/2022 21:56
Truly stuck in 2017
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Брат Bird 14/05/2022 21:59
New shrine
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broder lampa 14/05/2022 22:50
22:51
replace face with tim
22:53
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broder lampa
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big bro chacho 14/05/2022 23:05
i thought this was nick for a second and then was gonna say "nick kinda looks like tim"
23:05
my brain is fried
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Brother leijurv 14/05/2022 23:28
23:30
We should go here
23:30
Next mason camping trip
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joeseph stilton 14/05/2022 23:32
😺 👍
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Brother leijurv
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Brother Pint 14/05/2022 23:37
still cannot believe Todarac was put in public all day wearing this
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Brother P529 14/05/2022 23:44
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Brother Pint
still cannot believe Todarac was put in public all day wearing this
Брат Bird 14/05/2022 23:45
I wore this shirt for two days straight and while meeting babbas parents
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Brother leijurv 15/05/2022 00:04
00:09
@Brother DocSmurf
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Brother leijurv
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Peak Mason
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Brother DocSmurf 15/05/2022 00:18
Still no video yet
00:18
we know atleast two people have it
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Брат Bird 15/05/2022 00:18
iMac G3 IVAD board initialization with an arduino. Contribute to qbancoffee/imac_g3_ivad_board_init development by creating an account on GitHub.
00:18
Bruh I want to do this so bad
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But wtf
00:19
I need like 3 degrees for this shit
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Brother DocSmurf
Still no video yet
what is a leaf
00:51
a Canadian?
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Brother DocSmurf 15/05/2022 00:52
yes
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Brother leijurv 15/05/2022 01:32
01:32
Can someone photoshop this
01:32
I shouldn't even need to say what to edit
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Brother leijurv
I shouldn't even need to say what to edit
[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 15/05/2022 01:35
ToeNAIL Spa
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Brother leijurv
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Brother Nordic of the West 15/05/2022 01:36
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Brother leijurv 15/05/2022 01:44
No!
01:44
Obviously I meant cumFOOT
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Brother leijurv
No!
[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 15/05/2022 01:52
That's literally what he added
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Brother leijurv 15/05/2022 02:25
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joeseph stilton 15/05/2022 02:26
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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(thats a lot of goats)
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Brother Entropy 15/05/2022 03:09
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Brother Entropy 15/05/2022 03:52
Invite to join a server
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 15/05/2022 04:03
what
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Брат Bird 15/05/2022 04:28
what
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Brother Entropy 15/05/2022 04:42
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Brother leijurv 15/05/2022 06:29
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Брат Bird 15/05/2022 07:48
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Brother leijurv 15/05/2022 15:53
So true
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@Brother Entropy this is tragic https://namemc.com/search?q=Negative_Enthalpy
Status: Too Long, Searches: 0 / month
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Brother leijurv
So true
Брат Bird 15/05/2022 17:03
Goose spitter
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Bröther öats 15/05/2022 17:11
very true 3:
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Brother Entropy 15/05/2022 17:16
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Брат Bird 15/05/2022 17:20
In just saying he got covid after he spit on the goose 😼 (edited)
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killet is cringe
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EnigmA_008 15/05/2022 18:13
A bit, yes. He's ... Special
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big bro chacho 15/05/2022 18:20
killet is a fucking retard
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EnigmA_008 15/05/2022 18:23
I had the honor to spend some time with him and others at the weekend
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big bro chacho 15/05/2022 18:23
Im terribly sorry to hear
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EnigmA_008 15/05/2022 18:25
It wasn't that bad. In person ppl are way less autistic than online
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Brother Entropy 15/05/2022 18:26
glad you survived
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EnigmA_008 15/05/2022 18:39
I wasn't alone with him.
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broder lampa 15/05/2022 18:40
glad you survived
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EnigmA_008 15/05/2022 18:40
Oh no
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big bro chacho 15/05/2022 18:45
glad you survived
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Brother Raaanch 15/05/2022 18:50
glad you survived
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snugglebugaj 15/05/2022 18:50
wtf private
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snugglebugaj
wtf private
EnigmA_008 15/05/2022 18:53
It was supposed to be up for 2-3 hours but they got found pretty easily
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snugglebugaj 15/05/2022 18:53
who else was there
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glad you survived
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glad you survived
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snugglebugaj
who else was there
EnigmA_008 15/05/2022 19:00
Killert and bezopasan, they got found (or "found") by maksitaxi (edited)
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snugglebugaj 15/05/2022 19:01
🤢
19:01
i have never heard of anyone called killer
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Brother Todarac 15/05/2022 19:29
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Brother Todarac 15/05/2022 21:10
21:10
why is this actually good wtf
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EnigmA_008
I had the honor to spend some time with him and others at the weekend
BrotherEyes 15/05/2022 22:34
I’m sorry to hear about this
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Brother Entropy
glad you survived
BrotherEyes 15/05/2022 22:34
This
22:34
That guy is schizo (edited)
22:36
And I’m sorry to hear about bezo too
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i would meet bezo
22:46
but not killet
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Brother Dectonic 15/05/2022 23:26
Last time I talked to bezo he went
23:26
“What about this damn Dectonic exploit”
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Брат Bird 15/05/2022 23:33
I’m freedoming
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joeseph stilton 15/05/2022 23:34
Remember to freedom as safely as possible cathearthow
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people I wouldn't go shooting with: nick
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Брат Bird 16/05/2022 00:20
? Ive been shooting since I was a kid, and I have permits for fully automatic weapons from the government
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Taken like 50 hours of classes for my license
00:20
Your loss liberal
00:22
Can’t even see the AK in the picture 😵💫
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Brother Raaanch 16/05/2022 00:24
lol the fucking mags duct taped together.
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Брат Bird 16/05/2022 00:24
I told him to do that he was practicing reloading
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🤭
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joeseph stilton 16/05/2022 00:25
Pretty much impossible to get an auto license out here. Not like i got the cash for all those bullets lmao
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Sounds like you need an NRA sugar mommy
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Brother Pint 16/05/2022 00:33
was super hyped to shoot my buddy's Mosin yearerday. poor thing jammed on the 2nd shot. and we forgot the cleaning rod :( (edited)
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Brother Raaanch 16/05/2022 00:33
Freedom. (Not my picture)
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_m_e_o_w_
Sounds like you need an NRA sugar mommy
joeseph stilton 16/05/2022 00:34
pleading_face_BOLD
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Brother Raaanch
Freedom. (Not my picture)
Brother Pint 16/05/2022 00:34
holy shit
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joeseph stilton 16/05/2022 00:34
Bro what
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Brother Pint
holy shit
Brother Raaanch 16/05/2022 00:34
The best thing about this picture is that they RELOADED and kept firing lol
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_m_e_o_w_
Sounds like you need an NRA sugar mommy
hi yes where do i get one
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Brother Entropy 16/05/2022 00:37
i dont understand what im looking at
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Brother Entropy
i dont understand what im looking at
Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 00:38
one bullet got jammed
00:38
they kept firing
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Brother Entropy 16/05/2022 00:38
ooff
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Brother Entropy
i dont understand what im looking at
Brother Raaanch 16/05/2022 00:39
if you're referring to me. The barrel of the revolver is jammed with bullets. that .357 has a cylinder that contains 6 rounds. fires either .38 special or .357 so they either somehow used to wrong ammo or reloaded their own rounds and didn't put enough powder in the casings and they reloaded after the first 6 and shot 2 more just in case.
00:40
I'm honestly surprised the barrel didn't blow.
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Brother Entropy 16/05/2022 00:40
steel looks very thicc
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joeseph stilton 16/05/2022 00:40
Same though
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Brother Raaanch 16/05/2022 00:42
I owned the 4 inch barrel version of that revolver. that's definitely the 8inch barrel.
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joeseph stilton 16/05/2022 00:43
Never understood long-barreled pistols in the modern age
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Brother Raaanch 16/05/2022 00:43
Neither do i.
00:43
When I bought my ruger .357, I had the option of the longer barrel but again chose the 4.3inch
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bro meow
hi yes where do i get one
All the incel men in that world are unfuckable you should have no problem finding such a woman mdma
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Brother Raaanch
When I bought my ruger .357, I had the option of the longer barrel but again chose the 4.3inch
Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 00:53
wanted to keep the equipment length consistent eh?
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Teamspeak Is Better
wanted to keep the equipment length consistent eh?
Brother Raaanch 16/05/2022 00:53
Sure.
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Брат Bird 16/05/2022 01:00
@bro meow
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based
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 16/05/2022 01:18
its legal to take them and destroy them if you see them
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@_m_e_o_w_ rust?
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bro meow
@_m_e_o_w_ rust?
yes, playing with stability bunkers
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oh fuck yea
03:06
when we playing a wipe
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 16/05/2022 03:06
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bro meow
when we playing a wipe
I'm down. I'm ass at PVP, but can build
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Brother Rain 16/05/2022 03:59
Hi, I'm Saul Goodman. Did you know that you have rights? The constitution says you do! And so do I. Conscience gets expensive, doesn't it? For a substantial fee, and I do mean substantial, you and your loved ones can vanish. Untraceable. I want it in a money order and make it out to Ice Station Zebra Associates. That's my loan out. It's totally legit … it's done just for tax purposes. After that we can discuss Visa or Mastercard, but definitely not American Express, so don't even ask, all right? You're a high-risk client. You're gonna need the deluxe service. It's gonna cost you. If you're committed enough, you can make any story work. I once told a woman I was Kevin Costner, and it worked because I believed it. I never should have let my dojo membership run out. Better safe than sorry. That's my motto. As to your dead guy, occupational hazard. Drug dealer getting shot? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's been known to happen." Don't drink and drive, but if you do, call me.
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 04:39
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Brother Raaanch 16/05/2022 04:41
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 05:14
This shit had me DYING
05:14
@bro meow
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@Brother Raaanch @Brother Pint
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Brother Pint 16/05/2022 05:24
this is so retarded (edited)
05:24
and fucking hilarious
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Brother Dectonic
@bro meow
the way he licks his lips....
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bro meow
the way he licks his lips....
Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 05:28
I was fucking dying so hard bro
05:28
My chest hurts
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knew you'd like it
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snugglebugaj 16/05/2022 06:02
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 06:24
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 07:01
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 07:14
Replace the hammer and sickle with a dollar sign and youre good to go
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Brother Dectonic
This shit had me DYING
Brother DarkX 16/05/2022 12:09
"that didn't taste like strawberries at all" it's EVERCLEAR...lmao shit was hilarious
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 12:13
This year marks 74 years of Al-Nakba, or the Palestinian experience of dispossession and loss of their homeland.
12:14
Happy catastrophe day
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Fuck israel
14:17
@Brother leijurv
14:18
Can’t believe the liberals would do this !!!
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 14:25
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Zaanga
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 14:25
I only at a McRib because of steeleworldwide
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And that shit was garbage
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 16:49
I think you meant Palestine
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TheFunnCubes 16/05/2022 17:03
how many have you got?
17:04
cuz i have them all
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 17:04
Average discord user
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TheFunnCubes 16/05/2022 17:04
lol
17:05
admit it! you also use discord
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 17:06
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joeseph stilton 16/05/2022 17:10
too FUCKING true 😤
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Brother F3 16/05/2022 17:21
what is he going to do when he gets there?
17:21
I dont understand it
17:21
does that meme exist because .webp is bad or brilliant?
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Brother F3
does that meme exist because .webp is bad or brilliant?
bad
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Brother F3 16/05/2022 17:27
whats wrong about it?
17:27
(I dont think I ever used that format / seen .webp files)
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TheFunnCubes 16/05/2022 17:29
maybe there is a reason for most of us not knowing wtf .webp is.
17:35
so.... supposedly it can compress easier, so it was thus it would make loading times shorter, but it seems to be inferior for medium to high quality, and this would make it useless, as the only area where it would help would be the area where it doesnt work... some study by google showed a 25-34% effectiveness... all of that info i didnt know, i just pulled it straight off of the wiki
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 17:38
you cant embed .webp files on discord
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joeseph stilton 16/05/2022 17:43
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 17:43
jfif
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wtf is that
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joeseph stilton 16/05/2022 17:48
no idea
17:48
probably a gif webp equivalent (edited)
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 17:49
people who pronounce gif as "jif" would probably enjoy it
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 18:03
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big bro chacho
people who pronounce gif as "jif" would probably enjoy it
do you pronounce it jfeg since the p in photorograph is soft
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that’s how retarded you sound
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Brother Nekramite 16/05/2022 18:05
No I pronounce the p in photograph as a hard p
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at least you're consistent
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EnigmA_008 16/05/2022 18:10
poe-tograph?
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bro meow
do you pronounce it jfeg since the p in photorograph is soft
big bro chacho 16/05/2022 18:11
cope
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cry
18:11
you have no morals
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 18:12
im satan
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Brother Raaanch 16/05/2022 18:13
"She's yawning... that's what she's doing... please don't ban me, twitch" is what I said on stream when I found it lol.
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Brother DarkX 16/05/2022 18:16
"She's yawning from excitement"
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 18:34
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Brother smcz 16/05/2022 18:59
Lmfao
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 19:04
the 2b2t wiki is used to document exactly the scummy shit that people have factually done
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pepelaugh
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 19:13
Isn’t lava_dupe lakify
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joeseph stilton 16/05/2022 19:16
I thought it was c0mmie tbh
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Was talking about the larp establishment earlier
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Which is what c0mmie calls the masons and some others
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Brother leijurv 16/05/2022 19:17
Scientific Reports - Cats learn the names of their friend cats in their daily lives
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joeseph stilton 16/05/2022 19:17
😺
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Brother Entropy 16/05/2022 19:23
lol someone trapped my portal
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Брат Bird 16/05/2022 19:31
Nominative determinism is the hypothesis that people tend to gravitate towards areas of work that fit their names. The term was first used in the magazine New Scientist in 1994, after the magazine's humorous "Feedback" column noted several studies carried out by researchers with remarkably fitting surnames. These included a book on polar explora...
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joeseph stilton
Which is what c0mmie calls the masons and some others
Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 19:38
people hate because they cant get in a_COOL
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Brother leijurv 16/05/2022 19:49
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joeseph stilton
I thought it was c0mmie tbh
joeseph stilton 16/05/2022 20:22
Looked at namemc. Almost certainly pixelati0n
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Brother leijurv 16/05/2022 20:28
.@JaredLeto surprised the #Morbius @Discord community at an exclusive screening in Los Angeles. Join the conversation now! https://t.co/ML6sMygLEq
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the morbius discord is still active
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joeseph stilton 16/05/2022 20:29
Smh why didnt we watch morbius at the drive in 🥺 😔 😭
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Brother Nekramite 16/05/2022 20:30
morbius 608% audience rating
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 16/05/2022 20:30
they said all the geeks sit in the back and normal looking people sit in the front
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 20:47
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FORTI NIGHT BABBAJ BABBAJ BABBAJ
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Brother leijurv 16/05/2022 21:05
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Guys not to flex but I'm level 1 in the morbius discord server
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BrotherEyes 16/05/2022 21:17
@Brother P529 can you help me set up multimc in vc
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 21:20
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BrotherEyes
@Brother P529 can you help me set up multimc in vc
EnigmA_008 16/05/2022 21:22
i can help you as well
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 21:27
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Brother leijurv
Guys not to flex but I'm level 1 in the morbius discord server
Brother leijurv 16/05/2022 21:34
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They love me
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 21:34
audibly laughed
21:34
read it in your voice
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Brother leijurv 16/05/2022 21:35
The only mod replied to that msg with a heart emoji
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 21:37
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 21:45
:((
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 21:57
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broder lampa 16/05/2022 21:58
el brochacho
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 21:59
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lmao
21:59
I learned cursive for 1 year in like 4th grade
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and it never came up again
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 21:59
We use cursive daily
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Mfw the lazy american meme is real
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Portuguese cope
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:01
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big bro chacho
Mfw the lazy american meme is real
Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:01
yeah its because portugal is stuck in the 50s
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Brother Todarac
yeah its because portugal is stuck in the 50s
Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:02
50 inches in your mum
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lol
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PES_Dab
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:02
[vine boom]
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says mum
22:02
enough said
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:02
yeah I speak english
22:02
try picking up a book
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thats the fake english
22:02
bri'ish crap
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:03
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 22:03
It looks cool
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:03
redpill 2
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Zaanga
bri'ish crap
Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:04
English crap?
22:04
you mean
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:04
no way
22:04
the real lyrics
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saved
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:04
like the rest of what I post
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Teamspeak Is Better
English crap?
British people speak English
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:04
so do nigerians
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 22:04
Todarac is so lazy that he never bother looking up the translation
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:04
they speak pidgin english
22:04
actually dectonic
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:04
ah yes, lazy
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 22:04
Its a song about drug addiction
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:04
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:04
because I dont autistically research every meme on the planet
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laziness
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 22:05
What autistic research
22:05
Its just googling a translation
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Lmfao
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:05
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:06
american laziness
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lol
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Teamspeak Is Better
English crap?
this is like saying "no the plane was not invented in America, It was invented in South Carolina"
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 22:06
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big bro chacho
Its just googling a translation
Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:06
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Zaanga
this is like saying "no the plane was not invented in America, It was invented in South Carolina"
Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:06
no its like saying "the plane wasnt invented in france it was invented in america"
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no its like saying "the plane wasnt invented in france it was invented in america"
England is apart of Britain
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:06
in wales they speak welsh and in scotland they speak scottish
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 22:06
Wheres the black gay porn
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:06
idiot
22:07
crazy enough english came from... england
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not gb
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Teamspeak Is Better
in wales they speak welsh and in scotland they speak scottish
only 1.1% of the scottish population can speak Scottish Gaelic
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Zaanga
only 1.1% of the scottish population can speak Scottish Gaelic
Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:07
yeah currently
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big bro chacho
Wheres the black gay porn
Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:08
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:08
re-wind to when english was first spoken
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funnily enough its called english because we speak it in england
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:08
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OomerCreepy
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:09
(edited)
22:09
ITS NOT THE SAMEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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snugglebugaj 16/05/2022 22:09
oh nvm its opossums instead of cats
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 22:09
One is possum the other is kitty
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Brother Todarac
ITS NOT THE SAMEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEE
broder lampa 16/05/2022 22:09
Sticker
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:09
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:09
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:10
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:10
this is todarac whenever he sees the meme
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the stages of grief
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ßrother LordNo. 16/05/2022 22:10
I want to live in the alternate timeline where jk rowling and notch hooked up and gave birth to neo-Hitler who single-handedly developed and entire mythical universe movie franchise game series with the sole goal of sneakily bringing back hitler youth
LMFAO 1
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:10
did you look up the episode to get more frames
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wtf
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Brother Todarac
did you look up the episode to get more frames
Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:11
no i drew these before
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:11
oh okay good job then
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:11
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ßrother LordNo. 16/05/2022 22:11
Now make one where he is obviously watching porn, but it worried his family may walk in at any moment
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:11
i have a todarac for everyone
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ßrother LordNo. 16/05/2022 22:11
For a friend
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:12
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:12
i bet they could knock out all that stuff in an hour
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leijurv would not stop singing this song
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im going to sing this song
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:13
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:13
so much
22:13
i bet you're ready todarac
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:13
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:15
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(i have sex)
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:16
this is very important
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:16
it is actually quite a privilege to go to work
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I fuck
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:16
this may sound stupid but try just being at home all day every day
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shits sad
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:16
dude this guy fucks
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:16
and boring
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Teamspeak Is Better
this may sound stupid but try just being at home all day every day
i would prefer that
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:16
average 2b2t player
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bro meow
i would prefer that
Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:16
i did it for three years wouldnt recommend
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snugglebugaj 16/05/2022 22:16
@Brother leijurv my sister entirely on her own decided to put on the sonic watch
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:17
kelv the only reason I work is so I can sit at home and do nothing
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:17
shit gets boring very fast
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try doing it for your whole life
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:17
would FUCKING love to
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:17
did you never get bored at the end of summer vacation?
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:17
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Teamspeak Is Better
did you never get bored at the end of summer vacation?
no
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:17
kelv the kind of person to get very excited when school starts again
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fr
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i legit wish i had unlimited money and could stay home 99 percent of the time
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:17
yes i did
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knowledge is power
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all my friends are in the little light box
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@ßrother LordNo. lordno when hes 60
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:20
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:20
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:20
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:21
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i like to imagine dectonic is laughing at every single one of the gifs he posts
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like audibly giggling and laughing
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:21
probably?
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I meant to type Problem
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:22
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Брат Bird 16/05/2022 22:23
You guys will never believe the next arc in my love life
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TheFunnCubes 16/05/2022 22:23
Yo, wtf is happening in BSB
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Брат Bird
You guys will never believe the next arc in my love life
Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:23
wife????wife????wife????
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:23
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:23
tf is that
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Брат Bird 16/05/2022 22:23
I have a date with a Chinese woman I’ve been talking to on WhatsApp
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:23
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TheFunnCubes
Yo, wtf is happening in BSB
Brother Entropy 16/05/2022 22:23
its a copypasta
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Брат Bird 16/05/2022 22:23
😼
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Brother Entropy
its a copypasta
TheFunnCubes 16/05/2022 22:24
Ahhhhh thx. I wasn't sure
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:24
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TheFunnCubes 16/05/2022 22:24
Not to say I borderline bought it
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:24
I swear this is like the 3rd time cubes has posted a copypasta thinking its real
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Brother Entropy 16/05/2022 22:24
surprised?
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:24
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TheFunnCubes 16/05/2022 22:25
Hey man. I am German. If it's written down and official it's gotta be legit!
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Брат Bird 16/05/2022 22:26
If being a femboy did not entitle me to get pegged I would be such a popping femboy
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But it puts a target on me saying “I want it in the ass” and that doesn’t fly with me
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:26
make sure this girl isnt ukranian
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Брат Bird 16/05/2022 22:26
Look this is different we actually have a date in person
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In public (edited)
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Brother Dectonic 16/05/2022 22:26
if she says "slap it on the camera" do not do it
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Брат Bird 16/05/2022 22:27
I’m never taking nudes again because of her
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There’s a first and last time for everything
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And that was both
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what we could have done with the beyblades
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:29
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Брат Bird
I have a date with a Chinese woman I’ve been talking to on WhatsApp
broder lampa 16/05/2022 22:31
Will She blackmail you
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:31
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:40
i didnt
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:40
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Teamspeak Is Better
i didnt
Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:40
didnt what? its a funny video
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Брат Bird
I have a date with a Chinese woman I’ve been talking to on WhatsApp
big bro chacho 16/05/2022 22:49
is she a dengist
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:52
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:54
you?
22:54
troll3d
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Brother Todarac 16/05/2022 22:54
awwww
22:54
im your life goal?
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Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 22:55
yes i aspire to be a 6"3 ginger
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Брат Bird 16/05/2022 23:00
I’m going to ruin my life and there’s nothing you can do about it
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Брат Bird
I’m going to ruin my life and there’s nothing you can do about it
Teamspeak Is Better 16/05/2022 23:02
one societies ruins are another societies wonder
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Brother Todarac
leijurv would not stop singing this song
Brother leijurv 16/05/2022 23:05
Mad
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snugglebugaj
@Brother leijurv my sister entirely on her own decided to put on the sonic watch
Brother leijurv 16/05/2022 23:05
Good taste
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I can't believe you guys are sleeping on the morbius discord
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It rocks so hard
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 16/05/2022 23:08
holy morb
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 23:10
morbin so hard
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 16/05/2022 23:11
I morbeed my pants
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BrotherEyes 16/05/2022 23:28
@Durkaa join vc
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@Durkaa join vc
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@Durkaa join vc
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big bro chacho 16/05/2022 23:29
ban
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BrotherEyes 16/05/2022 23:37
no
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I love durka
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Brother leijurv
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BrotherEyes 17/05/2022 00:11
"holy morb" 🤣 hahaha
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Brother leijurv 17/05/2022 00:53
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BrotherEyes 17/05/2022 01:04
It's a conscious progressive attempt to manipulate & retool the notion of beauty, reliant on the idiot philosophy that such preferences are learned & properly changed by those who know better (see https://t.co/RLOu4wlNM6)(https://t.co/tUzihxdXOl) but don't let the facts stop you.
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Why do ppl argue about this stuff If there is an audience for “plus size models”
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Brother Entropy 17/05/2022 01:18
can someone explain to me why canada maple leaf gets so much hate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYueJIr9FUM
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Брат Bird 17/05/2022 01:23
Guys I’m going big mode
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Nvm got cucked in setup again
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Brother Entropy
can someone explain to me why canada maple leaf gets so much hate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYueJIr9FUM
BrotherEyes 17/05/2022 01:32
weird because they got it last time well
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 17/05/2022 01:38
because canadians suck
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wtf
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why did i open vc text to this
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..........
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big bro chacho 17/05/2022 01:49
He is disappointed
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Brother Entropy 17/05/2022 01:53
i dont remember the context of this
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im standing on nick platform at photosynthesis
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but why the sign
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Брат Bird 17/05/2022 03:38
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stopped playing holes already?
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weak.
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Брат Bird 17/05/2022 03:40
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@bro meow it was tabbed out
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Brother Entropy
can someone explain to me why canada maple leaf gets so much hate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYueJIr9FUM
ßrother LordNo. 17/05/2022 04:31
Few reasons. Canada is a very divided. Our provinces don’t like each other. Quebec doesn’t want to be a part of Canada, plus half of Canada tried to make it a pot leaf
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Brother Entropy 17/05/2022 04:32
sensible
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ßrother LordNo. 17/05/2022 04:34
The Quebec graphic stood very well. As did some other Provinces and hockey teams. Individually we worked well, but Canada is just too big
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Брат Bird 17/05/2022 04:51
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Брат Bird 17/05/2022 05:02
The language barrier with a Chinese women who just finished learning English is really interesting
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This has also confirmed I have no idea what my real taste in women is
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What’s wrong with me
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 17/05/2022 05:03
did she extort you
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Брат Bird 17/05/2022 05:03
No this isn’t like that I got introduced to her by a good friend
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Брат Bird
This has also confirmed I have no idea what my real taste in women is
Brother Raaanch 17/05/2022 05:04
Try a whole bunch. Get out there and start slutting it up, ya big whore.
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 17/05/2022 05:04
do not do that
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ßrother LordNo. 17/05/2022 05:07
Find a women within your race and religion, marry them, then engage in intercourse only for the purposes of creating children, try not to enjoy it
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Drink Pepsi
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Marry a Canadian
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requirements: don’t be a Canadian
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Брат Bird 17/05/2022 05:33
A bird just tryna be loved
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Brother Pint 17/05/2022 05:59
wtf
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@Brother Raaanch
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i can hear you
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fucking hell
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Brother Raaanch 17/05/2022 06:00
😦
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Brother Pint 17/05/2022 06:00
my computer is so fucking broken rn (edited)
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or my headset is
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Брат Bird 17/05/2022 06:30
@ßrother LordNo.
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LETS FUCKING GO
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ßrother LordNo. 17/05/2022 06:31
Ehhhh! Fucking awesome
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Брат Bird 17/05/2022 06:32
Dude every other ppc Linux build for 32x is like broken or not supported
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And/or you’d need a degree to compile it
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I ended up getting Lubuntu to work
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This is really slow but it should be better once I get the adapter to put in the ssd
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God bless this Croatian man on YouTube
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Brother Pint 17/05/2022 06:46
my mic is so fucking broken rn
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can't talk
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my mic is FUCKED
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@snugglebugaj
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snugglebugaj 17/05/2022 07:01
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@Brother Pint this is who you remind me of
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Брат Bird 17/05/2022 07:01
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Brother Entropy
i dont remember the context of this
Brother Todarac 17/05/2022 07:33
it wasnt photosynthesis
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it was pendleton and I built a dirt hut as a building
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big bro chacho 17/05/2022 07:34
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This statue puts the statue of liberty to shame
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Brother Todarac 17/05/2022 07:54
where is it
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Брат Bird
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een snail from palestine 17/05/2022 07:57
illegal instruction
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basically punked bro
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Brother Todarac 17/05/2022 08:13
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big bro chacho 17/05/2022 08:23
Morbius sweep
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Brother leijurv 17/05/2022 09:59
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Brother Todarac
where is it
Pretty sure it’s in Stalingrad Russia(the city is renamed to something else tho)
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I think it’s like Volgograd now or something
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Brother Todarac
where is it
big bro chacho 17/05/2022 12:42
Volgograd
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Its a statue celebrating the soviet victory in the battle of stalingrad
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Fucking owned @Brother Todarac
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(i like both statues dw, but its bonkers how massive this one is)
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Brother Nekramite 17/05/2022 13:16
Not massive enough
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It's the 21st century, where are the 500ft cat girl statues at
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North Korea actually makes a lot of status for other countries
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It’s like a big export of there’s lol
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Brother Nekramite 17/05/2022 13:21
Time to commission a giant mason logo irl
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big bro chacho 17/05/2022 13:22
Masonic Eclipse irl
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Right over france so they die of malnutrition
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big bro chacho
Its a statue celebrating the soviet victory in the battle of stalingrad
Size isn’t everything
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big bro chacho 17/05/2022 14:55
That's true, the russian statue is also much prettier
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:^)
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Brother Dectonic 17/05/2022 15:09
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 17/05/2022 15:37
wtf this is so based
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@Brother F3
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ßrother LordNo. 17/05/2022 15:50
You just need to cross-functionally synergize more to his q6 targets
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ßrother LordNo.
You just need to cross-functionally synergize more to his q6 targets
I'm a hard pass on that one, you need to bring some realignment to the table (edited)
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ßrother LordNo. 17/05/2022 15:56
I’d like to pick your brain in a blue sky session because my team doesn’t have the resources to support all mission critical initiatives.
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Synergize to delivering 110% on the core values. Do better.
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ßrother LordNo.
You just need to cross-functionally synergize more to his q6 targets
[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 17/05/2022 16:12
>q6
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3
@Brother F3
Brother F3 17/05/2022 18:36
the asmr or what?
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 17/05/2022 18:57
Yes
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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 17/05/2022 18:58
When we meet up we will perform this argument
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Brother Dectonic 17/05/2022 19:11
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Brother Nekramite 17/05/2022 19:12
Seems like that one got claimed, they all had the same music
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BrotherEyes 17/05/2022 19:13
yeah lol this one has funny music though
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Brother Dectonic 17/05/2022 19:16
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Brother Dectonic 17/05/2022 20:16
@bro meow @big bro chacho @Brother Fruit @Brother leijurv
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big bro chacho 17/05/2022 20:16
💀
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Brother leijurv 17/05/2022 20:21
top 10 most true statements ever said in human history
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Brother leijurv 17/05/2022 20:35
UC-Berkeley’s Nicholas Weaver has been studying cryptocurrency for years. He thinks it’s a terrible idea that will end in disaster.
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Brother leijurv 17/05/2022 20:36
"what does it mean to own"
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these silly kittens are YEARS behind the times
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(todarac and i already resolved this by argument in 2020)
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(and herm too)
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big bro chacho 17/05/2022 20:36
what was the conclusion
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Brother leijurv 17/05/2022 20:36
its not interesting
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it just comes down to the state lol
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ßrother LordNo. 17/05/2022 20:36
Something about toasters
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broder lampa 17/05/2022 20:36
name on toaster
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ßrother LordNo. 17/05/2022 20:37
Ownership is a contract between you and the populous in control of force
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Brother leijurv 17/05/2022 20:37
"populace in control of force" only works in de jure democracies, the more general phrase would be "entity with a monopoly on the legitimate use of force/violence"
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but yes
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ßrother LordNo. 17/05/2022 20:38
Much more clear
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Also should add local entity….
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Brother leijurv 17/05/2022 20:39
ah right
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yes
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ßrother LordNo. 17/05/2022 20:39
Because Germany deciding I own a house in Canada doesn’t help if Canada doesn’t recognize it
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Brother leijurv 17/05/2022 20:39
ownership is a contract between you and the entity with a monopoly on the legitimate use of force/violence in the area
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ßrother LordNo. 17/05/2022 20:39
Mhm
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I wish social contract theory made sense, and was expanded to recognize ownership
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We could have a grand unified theory of what it means to live in a society, both morally and economically
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Brother leijurv 17/05/2022 20:41
so true
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ßrother LordNo. 17/05/2022 20:42
God I read Leviathan
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It was horrible
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I was so heart broke
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Брат Bird 17/05/2022 20:50
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Brother Dectonic 17/05/2022 21:10
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big bro chacho 17/05/2022 21:12
@Brother leijurv do u have that argument pyramid meme
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I need it
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Brother Dectonic 17/05/2022 21:15
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big bro chacho
@Brother leijurv do u have that argument pyramid meme
Brother leijurv 17/05/2022 21:24
Idk Google like "hierarchy triangle of disagreement"
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big bro chacho 17/05/2022 21:25
I found it
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Thanks
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Brother P529 17/05/2022 21:28
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big bro chacho
@Brother leijurv do u have that argument pyramid meme
Brother Todarac 17/05/2022 21:37
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big bro chacho 17/05/2022 21:38
Based
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Brother Dectonic 17/05/2022 21:46
Ifunny.co
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Brother Todarac 17/05/2022 23:16
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Brother Dectonic 18/05/2022 00:04
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big bro chacho 18/05/2022 00:41
hamburger style is better
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Brother Todarac 18/05/2022 00:42
if you make paper airplanes hamburger style then I think you are a serial killer
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:42
decentralized proof of work is a good thing
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its just such a shame there is some normie cringe
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Brother Todarac
if you make paper airplanes hamburger style then I think you are a serial killer
big bro chacho 18/05/2022 00:44
yeah of course you dont make planes like that
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but for folding paper normally its better
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Brother Todarac
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:50
this is very good
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een snail from palestine
brainlet opinion
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:50
Ugly people are wrong.
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een snail from palestine
decentralized proof of work is a good thing
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:51
is it tho?
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Brother leijurv
Ugly people are wrong.
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:51
true
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Brother leijurv
is it tho?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:51
why is it not
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BGP is an example of a decentralized system that is bad
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Brother Todarac 18/05/2022 00:51
bretty good privacy
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ßrother LordNo. 18/05/2022 00:51
You should prove it
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:51
BGP is frequently hijacked
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ßrother LordNo. 18/05/2022 00:51
All three of you
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:52
bitcoin maxi brainlet: mining is good in-and-of itself because it incentivizes green energy or some shit, AND it allows for bitcoin (which is also good) me, ascended alpha chad: BOTH of those are wrong
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it is a bad practice, in the aims of a bad end goal
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 00:52
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I can prove it to you right now
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Brother leijurv
bitcoin maxi brainlet: mining is good in-and-of itself because it incentivizes green energy or some shit, AND it allows for bitcoin (which is also good) me, ascended alpha chad: BOTH of those are wrong
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:52
mining is not good
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rofl
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thats a soy opinion
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een snail from palestine
thats a soy opinion
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:52
sadly many people think it
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:52
really?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:52
ctrl+f for "green"
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:52
the fact that bitcoin is not green does not mean you should not accept it :^)
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I couldn’t prove it
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:53
decentralized proof of work is therefore, at best a "necessary evil"
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in that it wastes a ton of electricity
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but maybe the outcome, distributed consensus, is worth it
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:53
its only so bad because too many people use it but that also makes the decentralized system stronger
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:53
however, i think that said consensus is 1. implicitly connected to the currency 2. useless except in a trustless environment
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and trustless environments dont exist outside of crypto fan's wet dreams
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een snail from palestine
its only so bad because too many people use it but that also makes the decentralized system stronger
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:54
it does make bitcoin harder to 51% attack, but again, for that to be a valid justification, bitcoin has to be "worth it" in the first place
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:54
:D
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Brother leijurv
and trustless environments dont exist outside of crypto fan's wet dreams
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:54
consider literally any example
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uhhhhhhh
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:55
BGP is an example of trust being abused
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lol
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:55
"we can replace ticketmaster with NFTs and make concert tickets trustless!" --> no you can't, because, there is a real-life concert venue that will ultimately decide which tickets are or aren't valid. no matter how much self-masturbatory complicated math and crypto you apply, your sleight of hand can never fully get rid of the fact that the concert venue is the ultimate authority that you have to trust to honor your ticket
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:56
thats cringe lol
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:56
(i can do this for LITERALLY ANY application of crypto / smart contracts / nfts)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:56
wrong
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een snail from palestine
BGP is an example of trust being abused
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:56
reinterpreting this as "BGP can be abused" then yes
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but that doesn't make it bad
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or rather
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let me rephrase
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that doesn't make it worse than crypto*
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een snail from palestine
thats cringe lol
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:57
the idea that NFTs can replace ticketmaster is cringe/wrong, or my rebuttal is cringe/wrong
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Brother leijurv
the idea that NFTs can replace ticketmaster is cringe/wrong, or my rebuttal is cringe/wrong
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:57
thats redpilled
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replacing temp tickets is retarded
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the point is the blockchain is suppose to last forever
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:58
i dont think the blockchain is better at lasting a long time than other systems
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example: the linux .git is pretty much the same thing, a "blockchain" of commit hashes. there is no mining or crypto involved. but it's going to last literally forever with no tampering because of how it chains the hashes together
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 18/05/2022 00:58
put racial slurs on the blockchain and get it canceled
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:58
what system has lasted 3000 years that has all of the data entirely public and decentralized
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nfts in the current form is misused
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een snail from palestine
what system has lasted 3000 years that has all of the data entirely public and decentralized
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:58
consider example of the .git for linux kernel ^ (edited)
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Brother leijurv
example: the linux .git is pretty much the same thing, a "blockchain" of commit hashes. there is no mining or crypto involved. but it's going to last literally forever with no tampering because of how it chains the hashes together
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:58
yea but no one is distributing it forever except for the linux kernel and other big projects
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:59
exactly
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:59
no one is gonna accept some commit for you into the kernel
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:59
the point is that as long as someone cares about the data on the blockchain OR on the git repo, it will persist (edited)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:59
letting you keep data forever in the kernel
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:59
but when people stop caring, then it won't persist
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blockchain does not solve this problem
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Brother leijurv
but when people stop caring, then it won't persist
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 00:59
with the blockchain with the coin being tied to mining, this becomes a problem
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 00:59
it makes you contribute "funds" to add your message to the blockchain that will keep providing value in the future
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Brother leijurv
with the blockchain with the coin being tied to mining, this becomes a problem
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:00
when the coin becomes worth less, miners will care about storing and continuing the blockchain less
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:00
will this happen tho?
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een snail from palestine
it makes you contribute "funds" to add your message to the blockchain that will keep providing value in the future
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:00
the problem is that storing data happens indefinitely
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een snail from palestine
will this happen tho?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:00
i think the linux kernel is going to last longer than 99.9% of altcoins blockchain history in existence today
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:00
as long as eth is worth something people will mine it indefinitely
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een snail from palestine
as long as eth is worth something people will mine it indefinitely
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:00
this is true ONLY in theory
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Brother leijurv
i think the linux kernel is going to last longer than 99.9% of altcoins blockchain history in existence today
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:01
altcoins are retarded
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most of them
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Brother leijurv
this is true ONLY in theory
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:01
in theory, the difficulty adjustment will always keep it profitable to mine
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:01
i don't consider anything other then the big 3
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Brother leijurv
in theory, the difficulty adjustment will always keep it profitable to mine
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:01
in PRACTICE, you also need the data storage for the entire blockchain history
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and that can't be difficulty adjusted away
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that's a linearly increasing cost
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it never decreases
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:01
what about the decentralized wireless coin tho
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it provides real value in real life
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:01
you have to remember that mining is not just computing hashes, you also need to store and validate the transactions in the block
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een snail from palestine
what about the decentralized wireless coin tho
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:01
helium?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:01
yea
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:02
i think that helium does not actually "work" - meaning that i analyzed their whitepaper when mickey started working there and i saw endless ways that the incentives are not correctly aligned
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its one of those things that's held up by hype
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:02
yea i would assume that
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:02
specifically, it doesn't correctly solve the oracle problem
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:02
but it still provides more value then most shitcoins
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:02
how can I prove to you, on the other side of the world trying to validate a block, that i truly did provide data relay services?
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the oracle problem is not solvable in the general case
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the whole point of a blockchain is that you don't have to trust anyone
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apply the same ticketmaster example to anything else, property deed, car deed, wifi access
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:03
works fine for torrents
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The guy moving the blocks doesn’t exist now huh
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:03
Sticker
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:03
what if i JUST do the proofs that i am providing helium coverage, but i don't actually relay your data. just the proofs that i'm here and transmitting
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i use less electricity this way
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een snail from palestine
works fine for torrents
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:04
sure, there are things like bittorrent and wikipedia that "work in practice, but not in theory"
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aka the ideas that "shouldn't work"
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the ones that rely on generosity or whatever
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bittorrent works because there are a lot of guardrails that basically make it impossible to fuck it up for others
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"bittorrent vandalism" doesn't exist
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every piece is hash verified, if you behave badly you will be ignored, etc
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you can either contribute or do nothing
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unlike in helium, where you can fuck up the network by claiming to provide coverage but not actually doing it
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:05
can u tho
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:05
yes, this is an attack that helium never fixed
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the helium blockchain randomly picks nodes to prove that they can really talk to each other
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imagine you do that, but you don't relay data other than for that
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:06
why do they not require all data to be proved by sender and receiver
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:06
its impossible for everyone to verify every bit of data everywhere on helium
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the blockchain can't grow that fast
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the best they could do is random spot-checks
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at a random time pick a random set of nodes and make them prove they can talk back and forth really fast
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een snail from palestine
it provides real value in real life
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:07
there's also a difference between providing value and capturing value
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im going to use a metaphor of airplanes (this is going to be autistic)
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an airline is like a cryptocurrency, an airport is like an exchange
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you can pick any of them to get from point A to point B
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they are in nearly perfect competition with each other
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airlines have tiny profit margins, like one percent
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:08
despite fast travel around the world providing massive value to the world, the airlines themselves don't capture that value because they are in fierce competition with each other to lower prices
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the same applies to cryptocurrencies
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even if sending money around provides value, that doesn't mean the coins will stay valuable, because the coins compete with each other
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even if providing wifi is valuable to people, that doesn't mean the helium token will stay valuable
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helium-the-network provides value, but that doesn't automatically mean that the helium token itself will be valued
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:10
yea idk why the token exists
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een snail from palestine
yea idk why the token exists
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:10
and there's the problem with cryptocurrency, summed up in a single message 😹
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:10
tor werks fine
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but its not entirely decentralized because so little people use it mostly (edited)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:11
decentralized proof-of-work only "works" if you reward miners in the token that they are mining to secure
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:11
tor consensus is sussy
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more people use tor then nodes
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Brother leijurv
and there's the problem with cryptocurrency, summed up in a single message 😹
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:11
time for the REDPILLS about how money, itself, fundamentally IS trust
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Brother leijurv
time for the REDPILLS about how money, itself, fundamentally IS trust
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:12
yea?
01:12
money not real
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:12
ehh
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"not real" is boring
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Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) is a macroeconomic theory that says government spending should not be restrained by fears of rising debt.
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In macroeconomics, chartalism is a theory of money that argues that money originated historically with states' attempts to direct economic activity rather than as a spontaneous solution to the problems with barter or as a means with which to tokenize debt, and that fiat currency has value in exchange because of sovereign power to levy taxes on e...
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:14
kind of like how "property" is a contract between you and the state regarding posessions, "money" is a contract between you and the state regarding economic productivity
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this is an extreme redpill
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:14
this is the entire reason why cryptocurrency exists at all btw (edited)
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een snail from palestine
cringe af
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:14
cringe in what sense
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you dont believe it or you dont like it
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or what
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:14
believe what
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:14
like, do you "buy" chartalism
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money as a tool of the state
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:16
money as a tool of the state to tax the people
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:16
eh not really
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:16
"not really"
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:16
the monopoly on the use of force is sufficient to tax the people
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consider serfs with a certain percentage of harvest being taken etc
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money doesn't come in until later
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:16
people are more willing to be taxed unknowingly then knowingly and willingly (edited)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:16
with more complicated economic trade relationships, tokenization of debt is important, but so is the government's control over economic productivity and growth
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een snail from palestine
people are more willing to be taxed unknowingly then knowingly and willingly (edited)
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:17
they simply don't know
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:17
what do you mean?
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are you talking about... payroll withholdings?
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or what
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:17
when you pay the IRS you are willingly giving them money
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you don't need to
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you will just get in trouble
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:17
im not sure what you mean
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when/how are people taxed unknowingly
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:18
but the government also applies additional taxes to any holder of the currency :^)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:18
you mean inflation?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:18
yes?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:18
eh
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:18
inflation is a tax on the holders of the currency
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:18
not really
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it has the opposite effect
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taxation as decreasing supply of currency has the opposite effect (in classical economic theory) than inflation, which increases the supply of currency
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:19
when the fed prints 1 billion for israel for aid how is that not a tax
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it just feels better for the people when that money is "not coming out of their pocket" (edited)
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when in fact it really is
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:20
that isn't strictly true
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i mean
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obviously yes when the government prints money the "value" is coming from the economic productivity of the state
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but it isn't the same net effect as a tax
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:20
it is an unrealized loss
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Brother leijurv
but it isn't the same net effect as a tax
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:21
the goverment that controls inflation is the same one that taxes you
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:21
the relationship between printing money and inflation is not as simplistic as it may seem
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MMT denies it entirely
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een snail from palestine
the goverment that controls inflation is the same one that taxes you
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:21
the government has knobs to control economic activity, issuing currency and taxation are opposites
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one adds currency into circulation, the other removes it from circulation
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:22
and one of those knobs shouldn't exist as long as the other exists :^)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:22
literally whAT
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:23
jew brain
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u
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:23
no come on
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"shouldn't exist"
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:23
yhep
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yep
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:23
then how should currency happen
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if we can't issue it
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😹
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or did you mean taxation as the one that shouldn't exist
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:24
inflation to re-issue money (edited)
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no taxes required
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:24
yeah that isn't good
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:24
money will never be sitting forever
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:25
that is very roughly the equivalent of a net M1 flat tax
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which is your classic "rich get richer poor get poorer"
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:25
im not talkiong about all taxes
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:25
arent u saying that we should... get rid of them?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:25
n
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:25
and just issue currency?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:25
personal tax
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raise company tax
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:26
oh
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remove taxes on individuals and only tax companies
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whatever fine, that's okay
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that isn't a fundamental change to how the economy operates
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tax incidence equalizes across supply and demand according to relative elasticity of supply and demand
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this applies to the labor market too
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if u get rid of personal income tax but keep payroll tax, everything equalizes out in the end
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opens vc text ox and leijurv are arguing closes vc text
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een snail from palestine
money not real
based
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:27
taxes on the people is just stealing from them if you constantly reissue currency out of thin air as-well
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unfortunate innit
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based alert
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een snail from palestine
taxes on the people is just stealing from them if you constantly reissue currency out of thin air as-well
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:28
it is literally impossible to have a currency that isn't issued
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:28
the unknowing people will get owned
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:28
new bitcoin is being printed every 10 minutes 😮
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:28
while the knowing people will not
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Brother leijurv
new bitcoin is being printed every 10 minutes 😮
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:28
based alert
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Brother leijurv
it is literally impossible to have a currency that isn't issued
ever heard of crypto sweaty
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Brother leijurv
new bitcoin is being printed every 10 minutes 😮
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:28
n
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Brother leijurv
new bitcoin is being printed every 10 minutes 😮
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:28
.
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:28
actually its not being printed
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bro meow
ever heard of crypto sweaty
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:28
god i wish crypto wasn't issued (this would mean there is no crypto) (the good ending)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:28
its reserved already from the start (edited)
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:^)
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it was printed once and is now being handed out slowly
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you can't make more bitcoin
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there's a finite amount
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:29
the amount being finite is not what people care about
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Brother leijurv
it is literally impossible to have a currency that isn't issued
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:29
this is just bait
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:29
its the predictability
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een snail from palestine
this is just bait
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:29
whats the reply?
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seriously
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currency has to be issued
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:30
no the crypto argument
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:30
bitcoin is inflationary for as long as new bitcoin is created with every block
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it's just "predictable"
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""""""""""""""""'predictable""""""""""""""""""
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think about this
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why ought we care about a predictable schedule of issuance?
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the idea is that it helps guard against runaway inflation right? which is when the value of the coin goes down?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:30
its not inflationary if it has an end date
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Brother leijurv
why ought we care about a predictable schedule of issuance?
then we can speculate on it
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een snail from palestine
its not inflationary if it has an end date
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:31
this is crypto propaganda - not actually true
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bro meow
then we can speculate on it
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:31
that is not an end-goal that anyone ought to morally care about
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:31
this is just twisting your idea of something
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but in reality it is defined already
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crypto wins fiat sucks
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haters will rage at this statement
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een snail from palestine
this is just twisting your idea of something
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:31
inflation is when new coin is brought into existence, and (in theory) this devalues the existing coins by a tiny margin
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:31
the amount of bitcoin to be possible to exist is known
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:31
the issuance being predictable doesn't change the fact that it's still issuance
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:32
why do you think its being reissued
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its defined from the very start
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:32
it's actually even worse in bitcoin than usd because the miners have to sell their earnings to cover their electricity bill and capital costs
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een snail from palestine
why do you think its being reissued
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:32
"reissued"?
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what does that mean
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Brother leijurv
it's actually even worse in bitcoin than usd because the miners have to sell their earnings to cover their electricity bill and capital costs
not necessarily true
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Brother leijurv
what does that mean
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:32
idk u tell me
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bro meow
not necessarily true
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:33
sure at any given moment in time a miner might not do so, but it's true on average
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:33
why u think that
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een snail from palestine
idk u tell me
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:33
you seem to be drawing a difference between "issuing" and "reissuing" and i legit dont know what the difference is
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plz tell me
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:33
?
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Brother leijurv
sure at any given moment in time a miner might not do so, but it's true on average
people spend their fiat earnings to pay for their business what's the difference
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bro meow
people spend their fiat earnings to pay for their business what's the difference
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:34
the business is "worth" what's paid for it lol
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whereas in bitcoin, the electricity is funneled into computing hashes
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bitcoin is worth what it's paid for
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:34
those hashes provide nothing beyond securing bitcoin
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good
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Bitcoin 🤓
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:34
reasons why leijurv copes about cryptocurrency: 1. gaslit into selling his crypto at a discount 2. gaslit into selling his crypto at a discount 3. gaslit into selling his crypto at a discount
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bro meow
bitcoin is worth what it's paid for
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:35
this is literal nonsense lol
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Brother leijurv
those hashes provide nothing beyond securing bitcoin
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:35
wrong
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it proves sha is secure on mass scale (edited)
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bro meow
people spend their fiat earnings to pay for their business what's the difference
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:35
you just literally asked me "what's the difference" then said a silly "i know you are but what am i" in response
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come on
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:35
sha is the most tested hash algorithm in existence due to bitcoin
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:36
the difference is that issuing bitcoin gets sold into electricity but then that electricity is used for no economic productivity beyond mining bitcoin, it's an equal cycle in perfect competition, whereas issuing dollars goes into a non-zero-sum economy
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:36
there is monetary incentive 24/7 to break sha
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een snail from palestine
sha is the most tested hash algorithm in existence due to bitcoin
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:36
wooooooooooooooow rolling_eyes_cat so valuable
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Brother leijurv
wooooooooooooooow rolling_eyes_cat so valuable
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:36
bitcoin is proof of secure crypto
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are you seriously arguing in favor of usd instead of crypto
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🤨😐
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Brother leijurv
the idea is that it helps guard against runaway inflation right? which is when the value of the coin goes down?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:36
plainly this does not work since the value swings wildly
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:37
yea leijurv is raging over crypto
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mad he sold too soon and got taxed at daddies rate
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:37
then moving the goal post and bringing up shitcoins
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een snail from palestine
then moving the goal post and bringing up shitcoins
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:37
i'll happily move it back - where did i do this?
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bro meow
are you seriously arguing in favor of usd instead of crypto
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:37
"in favor of" in what sense?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:37
btc, monero
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:38
do you consider bitcoin to be a shitcoin?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:38
yea partially
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:38
ok that genuinely surprises me then
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i thought bitcoin was what we were talking about from the beginning (edited)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:38
monero provides value via being anonymous currency
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monero allows illegal services to operate without the goverment :^)
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Brother leijurv
do you consider bitcoin to be a shitcoin?
I consider usd to be a shitcoin
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:38
true
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bro meow
I consider usd to be a shitcoin
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:39
ur literally just saying words
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mad?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:39
i support illegal drug operations via monero because they should be legal anyways
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:^)
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een snail from palestine
i support illegal drug operations via monero because they should be legal anyways
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:39
rolling_eyes_cat
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rolling_eyes_cat
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:39
do you think illegal drugs should stay illegal?
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no
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:39
if they were legal there would be no incentive to buy from these people
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they would be able to be bought with USD by people who could be held accountable (edited)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:40
freedom to transact/trade is NOT a fundamental/ontological moral good
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:40
yea it is
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:40
oh really
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:40
freedom to trade is a moral good
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:40
for example, should i be able to pay you for doing labor for me, without having to follow labor laws, pay payroll tax, etc etc?
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yes
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:41
if you pay at a fair rate there is no difference to paying in crypto vs stock options
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:41
there is a WORLD of difference between "the current laws about trade should be changed" and "it should be literally impossible for the government to make any laws relating to labor, trade, business, transactions"
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bro meow
yes
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:41
ur literally arguing against all labor laws?
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what the fucking fuck?
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bring back child labor?
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no more osha?
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no more fire exits?
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taxes are theft anyways
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:42
whats wrong with child labor if they want to work
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they just should be paid fairly
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:^)
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een snail from palestine
whats wrong with child labor if they want to work
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:42
you dont actually believe that
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bro meow
taxes are theft anyways
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:42
what does that have to do with OSHA
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i love how yall are currently morally at roughly the industrial revolution
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Brother leijurv
for example, should i be able to pay you for doing labor for me, without having to follow labor laws, pay payroll tax, etc etc?
a
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Brother leijurv
you dont actually believe that
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:42
why
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if it does not hurt them long term there is no issue (edited)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:43
???????????
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:43
what is wrong with child labor?
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explain
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yea
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explain idiot
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een snail from palestine
if it does not hurt them long term there is no issue (edited)
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:43
sorry, you don't get to say "doesn't hurt them long term" - recall that you just argued against all labor laws
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so we can't make it only be the "good" kind of child labor
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Brother leijurv
sorry, you don't get to say "doesn't hurt them long term" - recall that you just argued against all labor laws
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:44
i didn't
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:44
we're back in the coal mines baby
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:44
ufo did
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coal mines
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een snail from palestine
yea it is
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:44
.
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what's wrong with coal mines
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bro meow
what's wrong with coal mines
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:44
coal mines without any labor laws? a whole lot?????
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are you acting stupid or what
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pick up a history book
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people died all the fuckin time
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Pulmonary disease or sum shi
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Brother leijurv
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:44
that does not include labor laws
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een snail from palestine
that does not include labor laws
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:45
labor is fundamentally a transaction
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if you want transactions to never be subject to government oversight, then.......
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:45
you can do this same thing with cash right now
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it does not change anything
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this already happens
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lol
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:45
rolling_eyes_cat
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Brother leijurv
pick up a history book
history is gay I don't read it (edited)
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een snail from palestine
you can do this same thing with cash right now
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:45
cash can be traced (edited)
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it has serial numbers on each bill
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banks keep track of it
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sunglasses_cat get owned
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:46
nah not really
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I used a pencil and erased the serial number
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:46
would you agree that on principle the government has a compelling interest in prohibiting exploitative economic interactions
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:46
that is one of the benefits of a goverment
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but it also comes with many things that are not :^)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:47
child labor is the simplest and most basic example of an exploitative economic interaction
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children are children
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got some examples here ^
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so imagine that we do actually have an okay kind of child labor. you can do that today using the traditional banking and legal system. now imagine we introduce monero or whatever, what does that change? it suddenly makes it much easier to do the illegal kind of child labor. this is not a good thing
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:48
most of this is exploitation of workers in general (edited)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:48
correct
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:48
adults doing most of that is not moral
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:49
children are not developed enough to avoid exploitation
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this is literally why children are legally children
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why they can't sign contracts
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etc
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Lmao is zse actually arguing for child labor leijurv ?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:49
n
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een snail from palestine
whats wrong with child labor if they want to work
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:49
^
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:50
leijurv is trying to say child labor is just exploitation
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:50
yes
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children cannot morally labor for a wage
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:50
but the reality is exploitation happens to all people
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:50
that is also true
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but it's a lot worse when it's a child
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:50
why?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:50
they are not mentally developed enough to avoid exploitative situations
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What are laws but the expression of raw power by threat of violence?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:50
for example, why do YOU think we don't allow children to sign legally binding contracts?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:51
im not saying they should be allowed or not
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:51
its because they literally are not developed enough to make decisions for themselves
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Brother leijurv
for example, why do YOU think we don't allow children to sign legally binding contracts?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:51
most children*
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there are exceptions for all of these
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:^)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:51
what does that prove
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this is the fallacy of gray (edited)
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treating all shades of gray as interchangable
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:51
children CAN sign legally binding contracts if proven to be able to think for themselves in court and relieve themselves of their guardian
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:52
mmhmm
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:52
children with a legal guardian cant do that
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their legal guardian would need to agree
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een snail from palestine
children CAN sign legally binding contracts if proven to be able to think for themselves in court and relieve themselves of their guardian
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:52
this is not an argument for allowing this in the general case
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:52
i see not issues with children working if their legal guardian says it is ok but im sure there is exploitation there as-well
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:52
yes, parents put their kids to work, then the parents keep the money
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that's exploitative
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:53
this is just a problem with capitalism in general
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my man
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een snail from palestine
this is just a problem with capitalism in general
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:53
that doesn't contradict anything i'm saying???????
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:53
these are just copes to keep it alive
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this happens no matter your age
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:53
why are you bringing this up as if it disproves anything i'm saying
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it doesn't
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as people's brains are developing, the outcomes of the various incentives for exploitation continuously change
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again, fallacy of gray
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Brother leijurv
treating all shades of gray as interchangable
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:54
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:54
it is just as morally wrong to make people think they should be paid at a discount for their labour
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no matter their age
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:54
children get exploited worse than adults
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because they are kids
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:55
whats worse
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:55
for example, a parent could easily tell their kid that they have to do some labor for free, and the kid would do it
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obviously
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does this happen between two adults anywhere near that easily?
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no
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:55
happens all the time but only after they have been taught the big lie
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:56
what
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:56
many people see their worth as less then what it is
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:56
no
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:56
no ?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:56
children don't have that to begin with
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"only after they have been taught the big lie" is not an accurate description of how parents force children to do things
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:57
yea but this is about immoral people
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why u think moral child labor cant exist
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:57
we are going in circles - because child brains are not the same as adult brains
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there is nothing more to it
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:57
what age is a child brain
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:58
fallacy of gray denied
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continuum
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for all the fuckin times we have talked about sorites paradox, come on, you know this
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:58
idk what your definition of a child is
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:58
my definition is, again, a continuum of brain development
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:59
random words
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:59
the younger someone is, the more of a child they are
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how about that (edited)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 01:59
if that is the case most "adults" are not responsible enough
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 01:59
yep absolutely, exploitation also exists through wage labor of adults
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just stop for a second a think, come on. i am making a very simple statement which is that the less developed your brain is, the more susceptible you are to exploitation
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:00
how do you determine if someones brain is developed then
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:00
we have talked about sorites paradox so many fuckin times dude
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you don't
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shades of gray
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your fallacy is treating all shades of gray as the same
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:01
i think your just wrong
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This channel is super cute
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Brother leijurv
just stop for a second a think, come on. i am making a very simple statement which is that the less developed your brain is, the more susceptible you are to exploitation
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:01
this is wrong?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:01
moving the goal post
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24/7
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een snail from palestine
i think your just wrong
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:01
precisely what is wrong
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my statement that children and adults can be compared?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:01
exploiting children is no diff then exploiting adults
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they work the same
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both should not be allowed
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:02
0x22 logic: there is no hard line of brain development between child and adult. a child driving a car is not fundamentally different than an adult driving a car. only letting people get a license at 16 yrs old is logically unfounded. we should allow people of ANY age to drive a car
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Brother leijurv
0x22 logic: there is no hard line of brain development between child and adult. a child driving a car is not fundamentally different than an adult driving a car. only letting people get a license at 16 yrs old is logically unfounded. we should allow people of ANY age to drive a car
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:02
so 16 is adult ?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:02
nope
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come on
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engage with the actual point
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:02
why are you defining an age then
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:03
should we allow people of any age to drive a car? in your argument?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:03
no (edited)
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and yes
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een snail from palestine
and yes
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:03
we should allow people of any age to drive a car?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:03
i have driven a car since age 6
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lol
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haters gonna hate
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:03
should we allow people of any age to smoke cigarettes?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:04
we should not allow anyone to smoke cigarettes but banning them is even worse then allowing them to exist (edited)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:04
is there any law that takes into account age that you think shouldn't be removed?
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een snail from palestine
we should not allow anyone to smoke cigarettes but banning them is even worse then allowing them to exist (edited)
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:04
so that's a yes? anyone should be allowed to buy cigarettes?
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or no one
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Brother leijurv
is there any law that takes into account age that you think shouldn't be removed?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:05
no the laws are fine
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Brother leijurv
so that's a yes? anyone should be allowed to buy cigarettes?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:05
buy n
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smoke y
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een snail from palestine
no the laws are fine
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:05
what??
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for example, you are okay with the law that you have to be 16 to get a drivers license?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:05
yes and no
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:05
can you say more
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:06
you cant even be punished for a crime if you commit it under a certain age here but it would be unlikely for a child to commit such crime without an adult
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:07
okay
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do you think it's right that some laws treat people differently based on their age?
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you seem to have been arguing "no" up until now
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een snail from palestine
you cant even be punished for a crime if you commit it under a certain age here but it would be unlikely for a child to commit such crime without an adult
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:07
therefor even if you drive on a road with a car at your own will you won't be punished
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:07
what?
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yeah of course the kid shouldn't be punished
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but don't let them keep driving lol
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Brother leijurv
do you think it's right that some laws treat people differently based on their age?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:08
again this is completely shocking to me because we have discussed the continuum of brain development literally so many times
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"16" and all that
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:08
if a child can pass the same competency of someone who is 16
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there is no reason why they can't drive
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:^)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:09
the drivers test does not properly measure your judgement
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it really just measures to what degree you have practiced and memorized
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:09
then why are people under 25 allowed to drive then
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:10
for example, a drunk person paying absolute perfect attention could perhaps pass the drivers test, that doesn't mean we should legalize drunk driving
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Brother leijurv
again this is completely shocking to me because we have discussed the continuum of brain development literally so many times
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:10
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:10
the age is just a guideline
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een snail from palestine
the age is just a guideline
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:10
yes...
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its because we have to practically pick a number
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:10
there are exceptions to all of it that should exist
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:10
sure...?
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Brother leijurv
for example, a drunk person paying absolute perfect attention could perhaps pass the drivers test, that doesn't mean we should legalize drunk driving
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:11
would you agree?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:11
its not about the driving test
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een snail from palestine
then why are people under 25 allowed to drive then
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:11
some peoples brains keep developing way later, by that argument we should never let anyone drive, because you're always learning new things
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This is a marathon
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een snail from palestine
its not about the driving test
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:11
oh, i thought when you said if a child can pass the same competency of someone who is 16 you were talking about the driving test
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Brother leijurv
oh, i thought when you said if a child can pass the same competency of someone who is 16 you were talking about the driving test
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:11
werent you?
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Gotta be a record
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een snail from palestine
its not about the driving test
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:12
the law doesn't operate in a morally idealized space where we can judge people's competency to drive
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:12
if you are competent and as competent as before while drinking and driving it is fine to drive
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:12
the best we can do is 1. a test to make sure they know the basic knowledge (btw a child could pass this) 2. an age of brain development to make sure that they won't make really stupid decisions
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ßrother LordNo. 18/05/2022 02:12
You need to prove it
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All three of you
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:12
driving laws like this is about being competent (edited)
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If I use time travel science to put my adult brain into high school me and then fuck everyone at school is that immoral? (edited)
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een snail from palestine
if you are competent and as competent as before while drinking and driving it is fine to drive
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:13
great - but drunk driving should still be illegal because if someone is drunk, they almost certainly are not competent to drive
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the fact that some people can, to some likelihood, still be safe driving while drunk, should not change that
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:13
guidelines
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:14
you seem to be making a really weird legal argument about exceptions
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the existence of exceptions doesn't make the rule better removed than kept
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:14
if you have a god liver and drinking doesn't affect you i don't even think its illegal
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is it
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:14
the fact that todarac could drive from kane back to the campground while drunk without crashing does not change the average fact that drunk driving is unsafe
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een snail from palestine
if you have a god liver and drinking doesn't affect you i don't even think its illegal
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:15
oh my god stop dodging
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Brother leijurv
the existence of exceptions doesn't make the rule better removed than kept
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:15
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Brother leijurv
great - but drunk driving should still be illegal because if someone is drunk, they almost certainly are not competent to drive
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:15
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Brother leijurv
the existence of exceptions doesn't make the rule better removed than kept
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:15
when did i advocate for any rules being removed
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idk why u keep trying to say that
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never once did i say that
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een snail from palestine
when did i advocate for any rules being removed
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:15
when you suggested that child labor should be legal (as long as there is no long term harm) is one example
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another is when you suggested that anyone who can demonstrate competence should be allowed to drive
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Brother leijurv
when you suggested that child labor should be legal (as long as there is no long term harm) is one example
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:16
exceptions
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:16
another is when you suggested that if someone drinks but is still competent at driving, it should be legal for them to drive
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Brother leijurv
another is when you suggested that anyone who can demonstrate competence should be allowed to drive
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:16
exceptions
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Brother leijurv
another is when you suggested that if someone drinks but is still competent at driving, it should be legal for them to drive
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:16
exceptions
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een snail from palestine
exceptions
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:16
what does "demonstrate competence" mean other than "driving test"?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:16
all are not relevant
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:16
then literally what is your point if you don't think anything should be changed
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Brother leijurv
what does "demonstrate competence" mean other than "driving test"?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:17
competence can be measured just not via a driving test
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:18
ok how
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:18
all exceptions are case-by-case
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Brother leijurv
ok how
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:18
(the answer is that no, it practically can't be measured)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:18
if it cant be measured then no one should be allowed to drive
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cant be measured
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not allowed
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een snail from palestine
if it cant be measured then no one should be allowed to drive
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:19
can you please try and understand how this relates to the sorites paradox
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aka the continuum fallacy
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Brother leijurv
can you please try and understand how this relates to the sorites paradox
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:19
no
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:19
aka the thing that we always keep coming back to
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:19
does not matter
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the fact does not change that exceptions exist
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:19
so what
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exceptions exist so what (edited)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:19
exceptions should be allowed
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:20
but those exceptions are still decided by the government / laws
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you're just advocating for
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more complicated laws?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:20
yea whats wrong with that
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:20
great
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:20
more complicated laws or no laws at all
02:20
whats wrong
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:20
we've simplified it down to "0x thinks that laws should contain more nuance to better account for edge cases"
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is that correct?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:21
n
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:21
btw this already exists because a jury can find you innocent if they think that an exception ought apply
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:21
all laws should be debatable
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Brother leijurv
btw this already exists because a jury can find you innocent if they think that an exception ought apply
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:21
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Brother leijurv
freedom to transact/trade is NOT a fundamental/ontological moral good
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:21
so, returning to this
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Brother leijurv
btw this already exists because a jury can find you innocent if they think that an exception ought apply
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:22
that depends if a jury knows they can do that
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:22
trading for labor in violation of laws is not morally good
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joeseph stilton 18/05/2022 02:22
I cannot WAIT to be held in contempt of the court
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een snail from palestine
that depends if a jury knows they can do that
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:22
this is so far deep into nitpicking it's unbelievable
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but still
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joeseph stilton 18/05/2022 02:22
Sticker
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:22
ill humor you
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so what
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:22
that is jury nullification
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een snail from palestine
that depends if a jury knows they can do that
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:22
i say that right now, today, the court system allows for all these exceptions you're talking about
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Brother leijurv
i say that right now, today, the court system allows for all these exceptions you're talking about
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:23
jurors can be removed for having these opinions
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:24
oh my god this has nothing to do with the original point you were trying to prove
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which was that freedom to transact in a way that disregards laws is moral good
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:24
your the one who moved the goal post here
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een snail from palestine
your the one who moved the goal post here
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:24
your argument was, in summary, that "laws should have exceptions"
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:24
n
02:24
my argument is that crypto currency is a good form of payment and is no worse then usd (edited)
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but you moved the goal post here
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:25
right, then you said that monero is desirable because it is untraceable
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:25
whats wrong with that
02:25
there is nothing wrong with that
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people should follow the law because of their morals
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een snail from palestine
whats wrong with that
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:25
why is that good?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:25
why is it bad?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:26
holy fucking fuck i told you, because it makes it super easy to break the law, and i gave a ton of examples of labor laws that are good
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:26
if someone is morally wrong they will be morally wrong no matter what
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een snail from palestine
if someone is morally wrong they will be morally wrong no matter what
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:26
this is a super boring argument that can apply against any law
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Brother leijurv
holy fucking fuck i told you, because it makes it super easy to break the law, and i gave a ton of examples of labor laws that are good
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:27
untraceable currency does not make labor laws not apply
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Keep goin’ soldier!
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een snail from palestine
untraceable currency does not make labor laws not apply
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:27
financial crimes such as money laundering are proven to make real life crimes easier
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a simple example is labor laws
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but there are a million
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like ransomware, paying for CP, etc
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the incentive for exploitative working conditions IS the wage, which is payment
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untraceable payment fundamentally makes exploitative working conditions easier to perpetuate
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een snail from palestine
if someone is morally wrong they will be morally wrong no matter what
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:30
this is REALLY stupid btw
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i just have to reiterate
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Brother leijurv
this is REALLY stupid btw
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:30
i disagree
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:30
oh my god the statement itself is fine but the implied "so what" connection to legalism is really stupid
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:30
your saying cash is not possible to be used for the same abuse
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een snail from palestine
your saying cash is not possible to be used for the same abuse
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:30
yet another example of black/white/gray fallacy
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monero makes it easier to pay untraceably than bitcoin, which is easier than cash, which is easier than a bank transfer
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Brother leijurv
but there are a million
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:31
so?
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een snail from palestine
so?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:31
"there are a million different reasons why you're wrong" -> "so?"
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come on
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:31
its not wrong
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lol
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:31
okay then try and prove it
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i argue that monero makes it really easy to do a lot of crimes
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:31
i think that is your job but alright
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Brother leijurv
i argue that monero makes it really easy to do a lot of crimes
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:32
much easier than bitcoin, which itself is much easier than cash
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Brother leijurv
i argue that monero makes it really easy to do a lot of crimes
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:32
such crimes can be done via cash and is done via wire transfers as-well
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:32
in fact, some crimes such as randomware viruses, are ONLY possible with crypto, and didn't exist at ALL with cash (this is NOT my main point, it's just something to consider) (edited)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:32
fraud is commited via international wire transfers all the time (edited)
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een snail from palestine
such crimes can be done via cash and is done via wire transfers as-well
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:32
nope, come on, actually engage with what i said. i did not say "monero ALLOWS certain crimes that couldn't be done otherwise"
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i said "monero makes it EASIER than cash to do some crimes"
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 02:33
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Brother leijurv
i said "monero makes it EASIER than cash to do some crimes"
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:33
and this doesn't make it bad?
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 02:33
Due to being an old youtube channel I am unable to get into the account
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These videos are on the internet FOREVER
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:33
just like it doesn't make cash bad
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een snail from palestine
and this doesn't make it bad?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:33
yes, making it easier to sell child porn, or lock up files with ransomware, etc etc
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that's bad
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een snail from palestine
just like it doesn't make cash bad
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:34
is your brain literally incapable of leaving black/white thinking oh my GOD
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monero makes it EASIER than cash
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:34
it also makes it easier for privacy for good
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:34
therefore, the negative attribute of "enabling crime" is found to a greater degree in monero than in bitcoin, which in turn is greater than in cash (edited)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:34
does not mean privacy is bad
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this same argument can be used with the nsa spying on their own people (edited)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:34
no, freedom of speech is fundamentally different than freedom to transact
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freedom to transact enables exploitation
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Brother leijurv
is your brain literally incapable of leaving black/white thinking oh my GOD
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:35
laws are black and white
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:35
essentially yes
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but the world isn't
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 02:35
Guys the xatchat is still around
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Brother leijurv
therefore, the negative attribute of "enabling crime" is found to a greater degree in monero than in bitcoin, which in turn is greater than in cash (edited)
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:36
would u agree?
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Brother leijurv
that's bad
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:36
i disagree that ransomware is bad
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it is only bad if you harm innocent people
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een snail from palestine
i disagree that ransomware is bad
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:36
come the fuck on
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 02:36
I picked the wrong channel to post this in with you two arguing
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:36
its extortion
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:36
yeah?
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i don't care
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:36
this is another case of you rockbraining on the existence of an exception
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Guys just fuck already. The tension is too much.
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:36
governments extort people all the time
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its called taxes
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wdym
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:36
the general practice of murder is wrong (even though there are a few tiny percent of cases where it could be justified)
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would you agree that murder is a moral wrong?
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Brother leijurv
the general practice of murder is wrong (even though there are a few tiny percent of cases where it could be justified)
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:37
all murder is wrong but this is yet again moving the goalpost to attempt to make your invalid argument valid
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een snail from palestine
all murder is wrong but this is yet again moving the goalpost to attempt to make your invalid argument valid
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:37
but there are some cases where we do it anyway though
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the military murders all the time
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if the government does it, that means it's okay
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Brother leijurv
the military murders all the time
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:37
this is wrong
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Brother leijurv
if the government does it, that means it's okay
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:37
wrong
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een snail from palestine
wrong
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:37
oh really, then why did you bring up taxation above ^
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Brother leijurv
oh really, then why did you bring up taxation above ^
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:37
because its not ok ?
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wdym
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:37
rolling_eyes_cat
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taxation as theft? really?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:38
yeah taxation is theft
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so what
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it happens
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:38
theft is literally defined as taking without legal right
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:38
"legal right"
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:38
mmhmm
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theft is defined on top of property
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:38
what makes it more justifiable for a goverment
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:38
and property is defined on top of the legal system of the state
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this is literally the same property argument that has been had 100000000000 times
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:39
yep and your wrong for the 100000000th time
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een snail from palestine
it is only bad if you harm innocent people
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:39
why does this mean that ransomware is, in general, not bad?
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Brother leijurv
why does this mean that ransomware is, in general, not bad?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:39
depends
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:39
imagine i used ransomware, once, to fuck up a bad person
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:39
define bad person
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:39
imagine that ransomware is also used indiscriminately by viruses all the time
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een snail from palestine
define bad person
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:40
imagine they're really bad according to your personal definition
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:40
if someone steals 1 million from apple inc out of their 200 billion cash pile
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who cares?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:40
correct, the moral wrong of stealing is a continuum depending on a ton of factors, and one of the bigger ones is how much it will affect the victim
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:40
if someone steals 1 million from a random person it is much worse
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een snail from palestine
if someone steals 1 million from a random person it is much worse
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:41
by "0x brain thinking", actually, there is no line for which stealing is okay or not okay, so, all stealing must be okay
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:41
yet again saying things i never said
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:41
correct, i am accusing you of a contradiction
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this is when i suspect that the synthesis of two things you've said is nonsensical
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:41
there is a line where stealing is ok :^)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:42
in this case, one of them is "stealing is more or less bad depending on who it's from" and another is "we cannot morally draw lines in gray situations (e.g. child brain age)"
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:42
but not all stealing is ok
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een snail from palestine
there is a line where stealing is ok :^)
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:42
this is hilarious given all the trolling you were doing earlier about "what age is okay for driving car? 16? 25?" and suggesting that a line there is illogical
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:43
wasn't even trolling
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:43
sure
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:43
you wouldn't define a line that would work for the law (edited)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:43
now address the contradiction
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:43
im just trying to ask you to define a line
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and you just avoid it every time
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:43
can you define a line of when stealing is okay?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:43
i already did
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:43
(answer: no, neither of us can perfectly delineate such a line)
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een snail from palestine
i already did
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:43
oh really
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how many $ can i steal from apple, precisely
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:44
5.6 million is reasonable
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other goverments seem to think that is reasonable
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:45
wow, isn't it unfair of me to demand that you specifically delineate the line of what stealing is okay or not okay? doesn't that clearly not really disprove the idea that stealing is more or less okay depending on a lot of factors?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:45
The Netherlands’ competition authority has fined Apple €5 million (~$5.6 million) for failing to comply with conditions in an order requiring it to allow local dating apps to make user of third-party payment technology in their apps.
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:45
gotcha
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but how do we know that it was okay for the netherlands to have picked that number
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monocle_cat
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:45
because apple does not need to pay it
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:46
what?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:46
can the netherlands make apple pay?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:46
yeah
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:46
what will they do
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:46
they can declare that apple cannot do business in the netherlands
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?????????????????????????????
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:46
yeah?
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apple wants business in the netherlands
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:46
this makes apple pay because netherlands has monopoly on use of force in the area, and can prohibit sale of iphones
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:46
apple will pay the fine because apple wants business in the netherlands
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if apple thinks the fine is not worth it they won't pay
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the same is true for ransomware
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:47
WHAT
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LOOOOOOOOOOOL
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you're claiming ransomware is okay because it's a free choice whether to pay or not?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:47
no it just contributes
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:47
hm?
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the fact that it's a free choice makes it more okay?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:48
its better then having a gun directly yes
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its not violent
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:48
😹
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:48
apple will either lose important data worth more then the ransom or they will pay for the decryption key (edited)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:48
if i go to a bank and say "give me $1,000,000 or i will kill you" is that BETTER than me breaking into the vault and directly stealing $1,000,000? because i gave them a choice? whereas if i broke in, they have no choice?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:49
if you rob a bank there is even less of an issue
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:49
come on, compare the two
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:49
stealing from a goverment is more justified then apple inc
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Brother leijurv
come on, compare the two
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:49
a threat to extort money from the bank teller, versus breaking in and stealing directly
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:49
"give me $1,000,000 or i will kill you"
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:49
yeah
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:49
this is a threat of violence
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:49
yeah
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:49
that is a violent crime
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:49
mmhmm
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is that better or worse than breaking into the vault and stealing the same amount directly
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:50
the money is not worth anything to the goverment or the bank (edited)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:50
.............what
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:50
you said inflation is ok
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:50
stop dodging with weird non-responses
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which is better morally
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stealing directly, or extorting with a gun (the same amount of money) (edited)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:51
the one that is not violent
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the person your stealing from matters more
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a company losing money is worse then a person losing money
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a bank losing money is better then both of those
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:51
so the act of ransomwareing someone
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this is okay because you can imagine a scenario in which it's okay?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:52
there are scenarios where i see it as not something i feel is too morally wrong
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im not saying its okay but its also not something that i feel is worse then murder or any violent crime
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stealing 1 million from apple inc via ransomware is no worse then stealing a kids bike
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in fact stealing that kids bike may be worse
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thats emotional trauma
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:55
here's the fundamental problem, the actual core: when you switch to a system like monero, the good and bad blends together. when you take away the ability for the government to decide what transactions are and aren't allowed, you also take away the moral ability to separate good and bad uses. for example, paying someone for child porn is bad, paying someone for unregulated labor is bad, extorting payment with ransomware is bad. can i imagine a scenario with an exception to each of those? yes, i can contrive a super complicated one easily. but i don't get to separate out the exception from the general case, because by making the payment untraceable, uncensorable, etc, you lose the ability to decide which are or aren't okay. so all you have to do is judge by the average net effect of enabling ALL kinds of ransomware, ALL kinds of extortion, etc
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een snail from palestine
there are scenarios where i see it as not something i feel is too morally wrong
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:56
yeah sure fine. but is it ever morally good?
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Brother leijurv
yeah sure fine. but is it ever morally good?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:57
gray
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Brother leijurv
here's the fundamental problem, the actual core: when you switch to a system like monero, the good and bad blends together. when you take away the ability for the government to decide what transactions are and aren't allowed, you also take away the moral ability to separate good and bad uses. for example, paying someone for child porn is bad, paying someone for unregulated labor is bad, extorting payment with ransomware is bad. can i imagine a scenario with an exception to each of those? yes, i can contrive a super complicated one easily. but i don't get to separate out the exception from the general case, because by making the payment untraceable, uncensorable, etc, you lose the ability to decide which are or aren't okay. so all you have to do is judge by the average net effect of enabling ALL kinds of ransomware, ALL kinds of extortion, etc
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:58
"i can think of a kind of payment that isn't legal that i think should be" is not good enough, because those aren't the only kinds of payments that you'd be encouraging. rather, making it easier to transact in a completely unsupervisable manner actually encourages every kind of payment, you don't get to pick and choose
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:58
there is black, gray and white
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een snail from palestine
there is black, gray and white
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:58
NO!!!!!!!!
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there is NOT!
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:58
yep
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there is
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:58
there are shades
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:58
yeah
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:58
you keep acting like all gray is the same as all other gray
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 02:58
thats what i just said
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 02:59
ur tryna get away from the black/white two-color thinking, but you keep fucking it up and treating it like all-gray one-color thinking which is WORSE NOT BETTER
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een snail from palestine
there is black, gray and white
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:00
also still no, because no moral acts are pure good or pure evil
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:00
yea its just like goverment taxes
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Brother leijurv
"i can think of a kind of payment that isn't legal that i think should be" is not good enough, because those aren't the only kinds of payments that you'd be encouraging. rather, making it easier to transact in a completely unsupervisable manner actually encourages every kind of payment, you don't get to pick and choose
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:00
imagine every single thing that it's illegal to do with money became legal - you don't get to pick and choose which ransomware uses become legal, they ALL do. is that a good thing?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:00
they are good in one way and bad in another
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Brother leijurv
imagine every single thing that it's illegal to do with money became legal - you don't get to pick and choose which ransomware uses become legal, they ALL do. is that a good thing?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:01
what do you think
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:01
i don't think of it like that
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:01
like "the purge" but for finances
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:01
you are trying to make me think like that
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een snail from palestine
i don't think of it like that
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:01
but imagine it happened
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would it be bad?
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"for the next 24 hours, all financial crimes are legal"
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should we do that?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:01
the act if ransomware?
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that would still be illegal
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:01
imagine it became legal
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:02
financial crimes are a cope
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because they cant charge people for computer crimes easily
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een snail from palestine
that would still be illegal
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:02
imagine i include that in my purge
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 18/05/2022 03:02
u guys are still talking about bitcoin 3 hours later?
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Brother leijurv
imagine i include that in my purge
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:02
in the leijurv purge, there are 24 hours where all crimes involving money are legal, including all ransomware
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would that be good? should we do that?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:02
that would make murder legal
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:02
no imagine it's just crimes involving money
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:03
yea
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:03
violence is still illegal
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:03
crimes involving money and murder exist
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:03
right
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i am only saying that the money crimes are legal
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:03
this line does not work
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:03
crimes involving violence are unchanged
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:03
your trying to cope with the gray and white and black cope
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it does not work like that
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:03
explain why i'm wrong
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i say that the more monero gets popular/used, the closer we move towards a direction where all crimes involving money are easier
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:03
you cant have that without unintended consequences
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Brother leijurv
i say that the more monero gets popular/used, the closer we move towards a direction where all crimes involving money are easier
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:04
why is this wrong?
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een snail from palestine
you cant have that without unintended consequences
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:04
like what
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:04
you can follow the law while using privacy coins
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:04
exactly
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this is the crux of the issue, think about this:
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what do privacy coins let you do, that you couldn't do otherwise
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:04
regular banking organizations are used more then crypto is for crime
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:04
what's their net effect
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:04
then banks are bailed out
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een snail from palestine
regular banking organizations are used more then crypto is for crime
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:04
these are just defense talking points
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een snail from palestine
then banks are bailed out
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:05
thought terminating cliche
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"banks do crimes too" is a thought terminating cliche
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like saying "let's agree to disagree"
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or saying "i'm entitled to my opinion"
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:05
but its not an opinion
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its just a fact
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:05
complete missing of the point lol
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Brother leijurv
what do privacy coins let you do, that you couldn't do otherwise
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:05
.
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Brother leijurv
complete missing of the point lol
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:05
i think you are
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:05
what's the point, spell it out for me precisely
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what point am i missing
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Brother leijurv
what do privacy coins let you do, that you couldn't do otherwise
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:06
remove the control from the government
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following the law is optional
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and you should still follow it
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een snail from palestine
following the law is optional
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:06
would it be good if following the law was optional?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:06
it already is
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:06
what's the difference between "following the law is optional" and the purge
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:06
you can kill someone if you want
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Brother leijurv
what's the difference between "following the law is optional" and the purge
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:06
can you clarify
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:07
optional meaning it still allows you to hide money etc
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but there are many good reasons to hide money destination
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such as goverment censorship
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:07
same exact thing happening again lol
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is it good that people hide money in offshore accounts?
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 03:08
You guys are still going
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:08
sometimes it is, but in general on average is it?
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Brother leijurv
is it good that people hide money in offshore accounts?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:08
offshore accounts is a boomer meme
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 03:08
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:08
would it be better if we threw away all the laws about hiding money? make it always legal?
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@Brother leijurv
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 03:08
@Brother leijurv
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:08
offshore accounts don't work in the way most people htink they do so thats invalid
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they have nto worked like that in a long time
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 03:08
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een snail from palestine
optional meaning it still allows you to hide money etc
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:09
alright, what did you mean by hiding money
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you were the one who said that phrase
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Brother leijurv
would it be better if we threw away all the laws about hiding money? make it always legal?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:09
imagine we threw away all the laws about it. ANYONE can do it. would that be good?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:09
donating to people who are fighting their goverment that is oppressing them (edited)
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een snail from palestine
donating to people who are fighting their goverment that is oppressing them (edited)
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:10
mm yeah... but wouldn't it also let you donate to the oppressive government just as easily?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:10
Yes
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:10
how can you then declare that it's net positive?
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 03:10
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@bro meow
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:10
it protects both parties
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:10
our legal system is literally the codification of what kinds of financial transaction are or aren't okay
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Brother leijurv
mm yeah... but wouldn't it also let you donate to the oppressive government just as easily?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:11
north korea prints american money
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Brother leijurv
our legal system is literally the codification of what kinds of financial transaction are or aren't okay
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:11
subverting the entire thing means specific encouragement of the kinds of financial transactions that aren't currently okay
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would you agree?
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Brother leijurv
mm yeah... but wouldn't it also let you donate to the oppressive government just as easily?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:11
these blocks never work
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but the blocks the other way do
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giving funds to oppressive governments is trivial with the regular banking system
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multi sig escrow is so based
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:12
if you make payments uncensorable / untraceable / etc, you lose the ability to only allow donations to the "good" side
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:12
sanctions on russia/north korea only hurt the people
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not the goverment
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een snail from palestine
giving funds to oppressive governments is trivial with the regular banking system
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:12
actually no, sanctions do a lot
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een snail from palestine
sanctions on russia/north korea only hurt the people
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:12
extremely untrue
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:12
north korea has no issues trading through proxy
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:12
absolutely not true
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they have a lot of issues
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they go to a lot of effort to do it
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it's difficult for them
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:13
more effort
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:13
if it were legal, it would be much easier for them
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:13
yea im not syaing they are bad
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they just don't prevent goverments willing to put in the effort from avoiding them
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een snail from palestine
not the goverment
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:13
so this was wrong to be clear
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:13
as long as they have any ally that is not blocked as-well
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:13
it is untrue that sanctions "only hurt the people not the government"
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:13
it hurts the people much more
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:14
maybe so
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but specifically, sanctions effectively prevent traditional banking from interacting with that country
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you cannot send a wire transfer to north korea
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period
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Brother leijurv
you cannot send a wire transfer to north korea
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:15
you need to go through china first
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:15
my argument is very simple, monero degrades our ability to decide which kinds of transactions are or aren't okay
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(such as through laws)
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snugglebugaj 18/05/2022 03:15
@Brother leijurv i just realized that the GPL is an example of not tolerating the intolerant
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snugglebugaj
@Brother leijurv i just realized that the GPL is an example of not tolerating the intolerant
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:15
lmao b&r
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Brother leijurv
my argument is very simple, monero degrades our ability to decide which kinds of transactions are or aren't okay
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:16
the less we are able to do this, the more the bad kinds of transactions happen (the kinds that we would like to prevent if we could)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:16
i still don't see it as a bad thing
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the crypto currency still needs to be laundered
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:17
do you agree that that's the effect though?
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you just dont think that's a bad effect?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:17
assets cant just come out of thin air
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its the same as cash
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Brother leijurv
do you agree that that's the effect though?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:17
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Brother leijurv
my argument is very simple, monero degrades our ability to decide which kinds of transactions are or aren't okay
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:18
is this accurate? does it have an effect in that direction?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:18
i honestly don't see it as worse then regular payment
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also russia banking is not even fully isolated
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een snail from palestine
i honestly don't see it as worse then regular payment
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:18
this is just restatement
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een snail from palestine
also russia banking is not even fully isolated
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:18
tangent
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Brother leijurv
is this accurate? does it have an effect in that direction?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:18
?
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Brother leijurv
is this accurate? does it have an effect in that direction?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:18
i don't think it matters
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deciding if a transaction is ok or not is a opinion
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een snail from palestine
i don't think it matters
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:18
am i correct about the direction?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:19
it can be used for good and bad
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Brother leijurv
am i correct about the direction?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:19
am i correct about its effect?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:19
what effect
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:19
come the fuck on dude, i ask a question 5 times, and the moment i am slightly ambiguous with my reply chain, you snake into the out of saying i'm being unclear
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Brother leijurv
is this accurate? does it have an effect in that direction?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:19
.
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Brother leijurv
my argument is very simple, monero degrades our ability to decide which kinds of transactions are or aren't okay
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:20
why does this matter
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it does not matter
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een snail from palestine
why does this matter
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:20
it matters because i'm going to try and build an argument on top of it rolling_eyes_cat
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:20
its a cope
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:20
that will connect it to the net effect of monero
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een snail from palestine
its a cope
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:20
try a little intellectual maturity please
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maybe you can consider the idea then explain why it's wrong
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een snail from palestine
why does this matter
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:21
is it true? is that the direction of its effect?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:21
the benefits still outweigh any downsides
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Brother leijurv
is it true? is that the direction of its effect?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:21
is it true?
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Brother leijurv
is it true?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:21
neither
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no true or false
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its neutral
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:22
monero has no effect on our ability to decide which transactions are or aren't okay?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:22
its only 1 step
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:22
hm - that's so interesting because i thought your whole point was that monero helps you make transactions even when the government doesn't want you to
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if it doesn't, then why should we use monero
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Brother leijurv
hm - that's so interesting because i thought your whole point was that monero helps you make transactions even when the government doesn't want you to
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:22
?
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low effort bait?
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een snail from palestine
donating to people who are fighting their goverment that is oppressing them (edited)
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:23
example
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:23
i can ttell if your serious or not
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:23
is it true or false that monero helps (makes it easier than when not using monero) to make transactions in the case when your government doesn't want you to
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Brother leijurv
is it true or false that monero helps (makes it easier than when not using monero) to make transactions in the case when your government doesn't want you to
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:24
depends what easier is
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:24
can you just engage in good faith rather than going on a semantics rabbit hole on what it means to be "easier"
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:24
your not engaging in good faith
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ur legit trolling
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:24
i don't think so
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ur dodging endlessly the simplest question on the effect of monero
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this is literally the point of monero
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and ur refusing to admit what it is
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:25
where
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:25
how about, in your own words, why is it good that we can use monero?
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Brother leijurv
how about, in your own words, why is it good that we can use monero?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:25
why is it bad?
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een snail from palestine
where
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:25
scroll up to see the dozen times that i asked the same specific question
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een snail from palestine
why is it bad?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:25
i explained why in depth - it makes it easier to do transactions that are illegal
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:25
explain why it is good that we can use the regular banking system
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een snail from palestine
donating to people who are fighting their goverment that is oppressing them (edited)
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:26
you gave this as an example of a good thing you can do even though the government doesn't want you to
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snugglebugaj 18/05/2022 03:26
his argument is basically monero bad because it makes it easy to do bad and the overall net outcome is bad
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snugglebugaj
his argument is basically monero bad because it makes it easy to do bad and the overall net outcome is bad
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:26
but its not bad
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even if you can do bad things
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its still not bad
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een snail from palestine
explain why it is good that we can use the regular banking system
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:26
the regular banking system codifies with consumer protections a wide variety of conveniences that allow for more efficient economic interaction
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some examples are the FDIC, wire transfers, and the stock exchange
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snugglebugaj
his argument is basically monero bad because it makes it easy to do bad and the overall net outcome is bad
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:26
yeah
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Brother leijurv
the regular banking system codifies with consumer protections a wide variety of conveniences that allow for more efficient economic interaction
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:26
consumer protections are not an upside
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Brother leijurv
some examples are the FDIC, wire transfers, and the stock exchange
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:27
wire transfers are the opposite of consumer protections
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snugglebugaj 18/05/2022 03:27
you could make the same argument against a lot of liberties :-)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:27
wire transfers are harder to trace then bitcoin
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een snail from palestine
wire transfers are harder to trace then bitcoin
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:27
goalpost shifting between bitcoin and monero
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:27
monaro is free choice
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snugglebugaj 18/05/2022 03:27
i hate globohomo
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:27
you yourself told me to talk about monero not bitcoin
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:28
its taking the choice away from others
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:28
i have answered literally every question you asked, time for the 0x answer a question challenge (impossible) (100% dodge chance) is it true or false that monero helps (makes it easier than when not using monero) to make transactions in the case when your government doesn't want you to
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snugglebugaj 18/05/2022 03:28
i am pro liberty
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Brother leijurv
i have answered literally every question you asked, time for the 0x answer a question challenge (impossible) (100% dodge chance) is it true or false that monero helps (makes it easier than when not using monero) to make transactions in the case when your government doesn't want you to
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:28
??? your legit projecting
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snugglebugaj 18/05/2022 03:28
i am libertarian (meaning i lack empathy)
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een snail from palestine
??? your legit projecting
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:28
should be easy to give a direct true/false answer then (edited)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:28
where?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:28
is it true or false that monero helps (makes it easier than when not using monero) to make transactions in the case when your government doesn't want you to
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:28
neither
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as i said
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for the 100th time
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:29
explain how can monero can neither help nor not help
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im not asking "help or hurt"
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:29
why are you thinking in black and white
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:29
im asking "help or neutral"
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is it true or false that monero helps (makes it easier than when not using monero) to make transactions in the case when your government doesn't want you to true - monero helps, it's better than the alternative false - monero is neutral or worse than the alternative
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:29
its a benefit
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snugglebugaj 18/05/2022 03:29
0x is trolling the answer is true
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 03:29
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Brother leijurv
is it true or false that monero helps (makes it easier than when not using monero) to make transactions in the case when your government doesn't want you to true - monero helps, it's better than the alternative false - monero is neutral or worse than the alternative
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:29
note that my two answers, true or false, cover the entire space (there is no option for a third in between, because i included that into "false")
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with this reworking, would you say "true" or "false" 0x
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:29
except its not better or worse
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:30
okay so it's neutral
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:30
its an asset
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:30
that is "false"
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 03:30
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snugglebugaj
0x is trolling the answer is true
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:30
thanks babba
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Brother leijurv
thanks babba
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:30
why is it true?
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its the same as cash
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een snail from palestine
except its not better or worse
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:30
great, monero is neither better nor worse at helping you make transactions in the case when your government doesn't want you to
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een snail from palestine
its the same as cash
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:30
cash can't be teleported through the internet
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:30
monaro may be even worse then cash in other ways
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Brother leijurv
great, monero is neither better nor worse at helping you make transactions in the case when your government doesn't want you to
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:30
(in 0x's opinion)
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Brother leijurv
cash can't be teleported through the internet
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:31
why don't we have internet borders for packets then?
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Brother leijurv
(in 0x's opinion)
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:31
in this case, that means that monero doesn't protect your financial privacy or anything like that
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:31
your legit saying borders are justified
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Brother leijurv
in this case, that means that monero doesn't protect your financial privacy or anything like that
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:31
so, there's no need for monero
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sholudn't be a problem to ban it
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Brother leijurv
so, there's no need for monero
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:31
it gives you freedom
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een snail from palestine
it gives you freedom
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:31
oh!
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does it!
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:31
banks make the choice for you
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:31
what freedom specifically
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:32
all of them ?
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banks can just take money from you
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een snail from palestine
it also makes it easier for privacy for good
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:32
example
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:32
its not your money
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:32
hold it though, i thought we were comparing monero to cash (edited)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:32
monaro is your asset as long as you have the private key
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:32
cash is your asset as long as you have it
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een snail from palestine
it gives you freedom
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:33
what's a freedom that monero gives you that the traditional banking system can't
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in my opinion, it gives you the freedom to send money even when doing so is illegal (and therefore can't be done through the traditional banking system) - but, 0x has said that he disagrees with this, so he can't list this as a freedom
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Brother leijurv
what's a freedom that monero gives you that the traditional banking system can't
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:33
fast transactions
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:33
cash is really fast
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:33
thats not traditional banking
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thats cash
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:33
the entire legal system of money is the traditional banking system
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checks
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credit cards
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wire transfers
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venmo
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:34
checks are slow
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:34
cash
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the whole thing
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:34
wire transfers are slow
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:34
that's all "the traditional system"
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is there any reason why monero is preferable over bitcoin?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:35
less people use it
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snugglebugaj
0x is trolling the answer is true
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:35
do you want to talk about this instead?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:35
about what
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:35
i am constantly baffled by your constant questions of "what" "whats wrong" etc etc
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:35
its simply not true
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:35
it simply beggars belief to think that they're all good faith
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:35
you need to use both traditional banking and monero
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eth did 4x the transactions as visa this year
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een snail from palestine
you need to use both traditional banking and monero
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:36
ok then why should anyone use monero
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Brother leijurv
ok then why should anyone use monero
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:36
freedom
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bro meow
eth did 4x the transactions as visa this year
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:36
if visa used the same electricity as bitcoin per transaction, it would use more electricity than the entire consumption of planet earth
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een snail from palestine
freedom
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:36
what freedom does it give you that the traditional banking system can't
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:36
why do you hold money in stocks
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its an asset
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een snail from palestine
why do you hold money in stocks
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:37
as an investment in a diversified portfolio of companies engaged in net-positive-sum economic activity, it allows me to support them with capital and hedge against fluctuations
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its truly amazing how i give good faith replies to even 0x's most random tangential questions, while 0x has spent hours dancing around and shifting on the most basic and direct question at stake
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:38
where are your good faith replies
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your avoid every question
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lol
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Brother leijurv
as an investment in a diversified portfolio of companies engaged in net-positive-sum economic activity, it allows me to support them with capital and hedge against fluctuations
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:38
heres one
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:38
those are just random words
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but none of it is true
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Brother leijurv
what freedom does it give you that the traditional banking system can't
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:38
and heres the one right before that you ignored
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:38
because you own immoral companies
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:39
that doesn't make the statement false LMFAO
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 03:39
why does it not
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Brother leijurv
and heres the one right before that you ignored
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:39
waiting for a reply
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bitcoin was made by the cia
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ßrother LordNo. 18/05/2022 03:45
Dayum
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Y’all still goin
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Brother leijurv
waiting for a reply
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:46
ones i've heard so far: speed - this is a convenience not a freedom privacy - 0x took this back because actually we are going with the amazing idea that monero is neither better nor worse than banks at doing transactions secretly goverment seizure - government can seize your physical cash just as easily as your private key actually others: ???? (edited)
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Brother Emperor 18/05/2022 03:47
in places with less stable traditional financial institutions, like the third world, crypto has tons of uses as a third party permission-less currency
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een snail from palestine
why does it not
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 03:48
also this is a perfect example of why 0x is so frustrating when he goes bad faith mode: 0x points out a contradiction that he sees (i explained why i'm invested in stocks, but i also think some of the companies are immoral), i ask where the contradiction is in my thinking, 0x somehow amazingly decides to ask me to prove that there is no contradiction (which is impossible, proving that something doesn't exist)
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Brother leijurv
ones i've heard so far: speed - this is a convenience not a freedom privacy - 0x took this back because actually we are going with the amazing idea that monero is neither better nor worse than banks at doing transactions secretly goverment seizure - government can seize your physical cash just as easily as your private key actually others: ???? (edited)
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:15
privacy, safety and stability
  • privacy by default (no loopholes required like the regular banking system till you touch the regular banking system)
  • not inflated by "justified" debt at an unpredictable rate
  • no one party has a decision over your transactions unless they have your private key
    • banks and governments don't decide for you.
    • cryptocurrency is a more stable and safer asset then any other asset they can obtain in some countries such as china (it is not possible to own a home in china and the stock market is unstable)
    • no legal identity required as long as you stay within the currency
    • safety from oppressive governments that can and would cause harm to you for transactions that they see as unlawful because it may harm their control over their population or they don't support basic human rights and supporting any organizations that support actions they don't like or receiving support from such organizations would result in harm to the user of such system.
    • "government can seize your physical cash just as easily as your private key actually"
      • This is just false, a private key does not need to physically exist to hold the currency and may only exists outside of someones head for the time it takes for a transaction to be sent.
  • illegal activity
    • this activity will happen with any banking system, they are still a minority of transactions and the same is true with traditional banking.
    • illegally obtained coins must still be laundered the same as cash but may be laundered via internet businesses instead is probably the only "downside"
    • some illegal activity such as drugs wouldn't be as immoral and they wouldn't need to operate through any loopholes if the activity wasn't illegal.
speed
  • transferring between countries faster then a wire transfer while being decentralized.
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een snail from palestine
privacy, safety and stability
  • privacy by default (no loopholes required like the regular banking system till you touch the regular banking system)
  • not inflated by "justified" debt at an unpredictable rate
  • no one party has a decision over your transactions unless they have your private key
    • banks and governments don't decide for you.
    • cryptocurrency is a more stable and safer asset then any other asset they can obtain in some countries such as china (it is not possible to own a home in china and the stock market is unstable)
    • no legal identity required as long as you stay within the currency
    • safety from oppressive governments that can and would cause harm to you for transactions that they see as unlawful because it may harm their control over their population or they don't support basic human rights and supporting any organizations that support actions they don't like or receiving support from such organizations would result in harm to the user of such system.
    • "government can seize your physical cash just as easily as your private key actually"
      • This is just false, a private key does not need to physically exist to hold the currency and may only exists outside of someones head for the time it takes for a transaction to be sent.
  • illegal activity
    • this activity will happen with any banking system, they are still a minority of transactions and the same is true with traditional banking.
    • illegally obtained coins must still be laundered the same as cash but may be laundered via internet businesses instead is probably the only "downside"
    • some illegal activity such as drugs wouldn't be as immoral and they wouldn't need to operate through any loopholes if the activity wasn't illegal.
speed
  • transferring between countries faster then a wire transfer while being decentralized.
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:21
illegal activity such as drugs is a benefit no matter what (edited)
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gray area services are also not allowed to use traditional banks
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even if they are technically legal
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there are many services that traditional banks won't offer any banking services with because they don't like the ideas they have
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:25
privacy by default (no loopholes required like the regular banking system till you touch the regular banking system)
i agree that this is an effect, i just don't agree it's a good one. earlier you said that hiding transactions from the government is not easier or harder in monero, so i don't think you get to claim this as a benefit now
not inflated by "justified" debt at an unpredictable rate
what's the (supposed) problem with inflation? it's that it (supposedly) decreases the value of the money you hold. here's the problem: despite bitcoin / monero / others having supposedly perfectly predictable inflation, their values swing wildly (WAY more than usd). clearly, this "predictable inflation" thing is NOT working. meaning: it is NOT preventing the issue that inflation supposedly causes in usd. maybe it's even evidence that adjusted taxes / issuance is NEEDED in order to maintain stable value?
no one party has a decision over your transactions unless they have your private key
you could also say this about cash https://xkcd.com/538/
This is just false, a private key does not need to physically exist to hold the currency and may only exists outside of someones head for the time it takes for a transaction to be sent.
(out of order due to applicability) a private key can also be thought of like an anonymous safe deposit box at a bank, or a number of other things that already exist. maybe you buried a treasure chest full of gold at coordinates that you memorized.
cryptocurrency is a more stable and safer asset then any other asset they can obtain in some countries such as china (it is not possible to own a home in china and the stock market is unstable)
i would concede that even with the incredible shortcomings of cryptocurrency, there are some scenarios you can construct in which it could be better to hold than the currency of the country itself. however, these reasons don't apply to the usa / first world countries like canada or eu, and to the question of if monero ought to be celebrated or shunned (or maybe even legal or banned)
no legal identity required as long as you stay within the currency
whoa there, i thought you said that monero didn't help you subvert laws. this can't be a benefit over the traditional financial system since you said monero is neither better nor worse
safety from oppressive governments that can and would cause harm to you for transactions that they see as unlawful because it may harm their control over their population or they don't support basic human rights and supporting any organizations that support actions they don't like or receiving support from such organizations would result in harm to the user of such system
okay now this is directly contradicting your claim earlier, which was that monero is neither better nor worse at skirting laws. now you are saying that it helps you transact even under an oppressive government that would like you not to.
this activity will happen with any banking system, they are still a minority of transactions and the same is true with traditional banking.
fundamentally, no. you need to address the point that the traditional banking system is bound by laws but monero is not. this is a fundamental difference that you can't wave away by saying "the same is true with normal banking". normal banks can and will go after people doing illegal things such as money laundering. this is impossible in monero.
illegally obtained coins must still be laundered the same as cash but may be laundered via internet businesses instead is probably the only "downside"
correct, both CAN be laundered, but cash has serial numbers and can be traced, monero cannot
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some illegal activity such as drugs wouldn't be as immoral and they wouldn't need to operate through any loopholes if the activity wasn't illegal
this has been my point all along. some activity that monero allows for is moral, some of it isn't. sure. what matters is the average, the "net effect". the net effect is STRONGLY in the direction of illegal. i gave many examples of financial transactions that are illegal, and in every single one i demonstrated how it's on-average immoral even despite the exceptions that you brought up, there were no cases where the exceptions beat the norm. it wasn't even close
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:27
cryptocurrency is also completely non-reversible. the same is not true except for international wire transfers and even that is not true but cash is the closest but has other downsides such as physical presence
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:27
speed
some banking transactions are slower or faster than some cryptocurrencies. it isn't a fundamental difference and it definitely isn't a difference in "freedom". for example, venmo is MUCH faster than a bitcoin block, but a bitcoin block is MUCH faster than an ACH transfer
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cryptocurrency is also completely non-reversible. the same is not true except for international wire transfers and even that is not true but cash is the closest but has other downsides such as physical presence
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:28
completely irreversible transactions is not a good thing. we have learned this time and time again in the traditional financial system. hundreds of years of operation has led to consumer protections like reversible credit card transactions, chargebacks. why would you want a credit card whose payments are irreversible? why would you want a stolen credit card (or private key) leading to all your money being gone? clear downside
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Brother leijurv
completely irreversible transactions is not a good thing. we have learned this time and time again in the traditional financial system. hundreds of years of operation has led to consumer protections like reversible credit card transactions, chargebacks. why would you want a credit card whose payments are irreversible? why would you want a stolen credit card (or private key) leading to all your money being gone? clear downside
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:29
this is not true at all
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:29
why are completely irreversible transactions good?
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wait sorry, let me rephrase
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:29
fraud results in losses for the people who had the transaction
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consumer protections are a loss for everyone except for the consumer
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:29
why is it ALWAYS better for a transaction to be irreversible? because you said that some parts of the traditional system (such as cash and some kinds of wire transfers) are irreversible
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een snail from palestine
consumer protections are a loss for everyone except for the consumer
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:30
this does not contradict with what i said
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Brother leijurv
completely irreversible transactions is not a good thing. we have learned this time and time again in the traditional financial system. hundreds of years of operation has led to consumer protections like reversible credit card transactions, chargebacks. why would you want a credit card whose payments are irreversible? why would you want a stolen credit card (or private key) leading to all your money being gone? clear downside
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:31
why would you want a stolen credit card (or private key) leading to all your money being gone?
the same can be said for cash. credit cards are fundamentally insecure and the money was never your money it is much harder to get money back from debit card fraud then it is credit card fraud.
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if someone steals your debit card it will take months to get that money back
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een snail from palestine
why would you want a stolen credit card (or private key) leading to all your money being gone?
the same can be said for cash. credit cards are fundamentally insecure and the money was never your money it is much harder to get money back from debit card fraud then it is credit card fraud.
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:31
please explain why this contradicts my point
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:32
there is no difference then cash here
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cash can be stolen the same way
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:32
the same can be said for cash
correct, cash is fairly irreversible. this is a downside of cash
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correct
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:32
it is not a downside
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:32
the question is whether irreversibilty is an upside or a downside
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the question is not "is cash irreversible" that doesn't matter
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:32
credit cards are used for fraud more then anything else (edited)
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een snail from palestine
credit cards are used for fraud more then anything else (edited)
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:32
lmfao what
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:33
do you disagree?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:33
thats such a broad statement that i have no idea what it means
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the average credit card transaction is more likely to be fraduelnt than any other system.....? (edited)
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or what
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:33
credit cards have no protection other then heuristic that says yes or no (edited)
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:34
the traditional banking system gives you a choice between cash, credit card, wire transfer, debit card, and a million other options like that. whereas, cryptocurrency is only irreversible. if you think that is better, you have to argue why reversibility is always bad
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een snail from palestine
credit cards have no protection other then heuristic that says yes or no (edited)
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:34
fraud detection is pretty complicated, and no, the protection is that the credit card has the authority to literally take back the money from the recipient
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Brother leijurv
fraud detection is pretty complicated, and no, the protection is that the credit card has the authority to literally take back the money from the recipient
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:35
this results in loss for the recipient
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:35
yes
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so the question is, what SHOULD happen if a credit card is stolen
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should the loss be borne by the consumer or the merchant
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as you argued earlier, stealing from poorer people is worse than stealing from richer people
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:35
the credit card company
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:35
therefore it's better that the merchant has to deal with it
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qed
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oh
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well the credit card company is richest of all
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so that's fine
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:36
it would give more incentive to secure their horrible system
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Brother Todarac 18/05/2022 04:36
holy fucking shit guys its been like 3 hours
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:36
credit cards are numbers that never change except for once every few years when they send you a new one
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Brother Todarac
holy fucking shit guys its been like 3 hours
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:36
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een snail from palestine
credit cards are numbers that never change except for once every few years when they send you a new one
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:36
sometimes i feel like 0x just says whatever comes into his head
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what does this have to do with anything lmfao
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and - again - the traditional financial system has the OPTION of a credit card OR OTHER OPTIONS, some of which are reversible or irreversible
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whereas, every cryptocurrency is irreversible
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Brother Todarac 18/05/2022 04:37
crypto is kind of epic. does this fit the argument?
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the nuance here is "kind of"
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thats my case
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:38
wow, extremely nuanced smiling_cat_with_3_hearts
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im so proud of you
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this is so sorites
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Brother Todarac 18/05/2022 04:38
sweet my job here is done bye
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enjoy arguing for 3 more hours
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Brother leijurv
privacy by default (no loopholes required like the regular banking system till you touch the regular banking system)
i agree that this is an effect, i just don't agree it's a good one. earlier you said that hiding transactions from the government is not easier or harder in monero, so i don't think you get to claim this as a benefit now
not inflated by "justified" debt at an unpredictable rate
what's the (supposed) problem with inflation? it's that it (supposedly) decreases the value of the money you hold. here's the problem: despite bitcoin / monero / others having supposedly perfectly predictable inflation, their values swing wildly (WAY more than usd). clearly, this "predictable inflation" thing is NOT working. meaning: it is NOT preventing the issue that inflation supposedly causes in usd. maybe it's even evidence that adjusted taxes / issuance is NEEDED in order to maintain stable value?
no one party has a decision over your transactions unless they have your private key
you could also say this about cash https://xkcd.com/538/
This is just false, a private key does not need to physically exist to hold the currency and may only exists outside of someones head for the time it takes for a transaction to be sent.
(out of order due to applicability) a private key can also be thought of like an anonymous safe deposit box at a bank, or a number of other things that already exist. maybe you buried a treasure chest full of gold at coordinates that you memorized.
cryptocurrency is a more stable and safer asset then any other asset they can obtain in some countries such as china (it is not possible to own a home in china and the stock market is unstable)
i would concede that even with the incredible shortcomings of cryptocurrency, there are some scenarios you can construct in which it could be better to hold than the currency of the country itself. however, these reasons don't apply to the usa / first world countries like canada or eu, and to the question of if monero ought to be celebrated or shunned (or maybe even legal or banned)
no legal identity required as long as you stay within the currency
whoa there, i thought you said that monero didn't help you subvert laws. this can't be a benefit over the traditional financial system since you said monero is neither better nor worse
safety from oppressive governments that can and would cause harm to you for transactions that they see as unlawful because it may harm their control over their population or they don't support basic human rights and supporting any organizations that support actions they don't like or receiving support from such organizations would result in harm to the user of such system
okay now this is directly contradicting your claim earlier, which was that monero is neither better nor worse at skirting laws. now you are saying that it helps you transact even under an oppressive government that would like you not to.
this activity will happen with any banking system, they are still a minority of transactions and the same is true with traditional banking.
fundamentally, no. you need to address the point that the traditional banking system is bound by laws but monero is not. this is a fundamental difference that you can't wave away by saying "the same is true with normal banking". normal banks can and will go after people doing illegal things such as money laundering. this is impossible in monero.
illegally obtained coins must still be laundered the same as cash but may be laundered via internet businesses instead is probably the only "downside"
correct, both CAN be laundered, but cash has serial numbers and can be traced, monero cannot
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:38
earlier you said that hiding transactions from the government is not easier or harder
This is only true with cash or loopholes such as banks without NYC or stolen identities and sending transactions between puppet accounts then to countries with minimal NYC laws.
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:39
*kyc not nyc, typo fallacy
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een snail from palestine
earlier you said that hiding transactions from the government is not easier or harder
This is only true with cash or loopholes such as banks without NYC or stolen identities and sending transactions between puppet accounts then to countries with minimal NYC laws.
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:39
no, you don't get to say that, unless you want to take back your earlier statement that hiding tx from government is neither easier or harder with monero
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do you want to take that back, or do you still believe that?
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Brother leijurv
privacy by default (no loopholes required like the regular banking system till you touch the regular banking system)
i agree that this is an effect, i just don't agree it's a good one. earlier you said that hiding transactions from the government is not easier or harder in monero, so i don't think you get to claim this as a benefit now
not inflated by "justified" debt at an unpredictable rate
what's the (supposed) problem with inflation? it's that it (supposedly) decreases the value of the money you hold. here's the problem: despite bitcoin / monero / others having supposedly perfectly predictable inflation, their values swing wildly (WAY more than usd). clearly, this "predictable inflation" thing is NOT working. meaning: it is NOT preventing the issue that inflation supposedly causes in usd. maybe it's even evidence that adjusted taxes / issuance is NEEDED in order to maintain stable value?
no one party has a decision over your transactions unless they have your private key
you could also say this about cash https://xkcd.com/538/
This is just false, a private key does not need to physically exist to hold the currency and may only exists outside of someones head for the time it takes for a transaction to be sent.
(out of order due to applicability) a private key can also be thought of like an anonymous safe deposit box at a bank, or a number of other things that already exist. maybe you buried a treasure chest full of gold at coordinates that you memorized.
cryptocurrency is a more stable and safer asset then any other asset they can obtain in some countries such as china (it is not possible to own a home in china and the stock market is unstable)
i would concede that even with the incredible shortcomings of cryptocurrency, there are some scenarios you can construct in which it could be better to hold than the currency of the country itself. however, these reasons don't apply to the usa / first world countries like canada or eu, and to the question of if monero ought to be celebrated or shunned (or maybe even legal or banned)
no legal identity required as long as you stay within the currency
whoa there, i thought you said that monero didn't help you subvert laws. this can't be a benefit over the traditional financial system since you said monero is neither better nor worse
safety from oppressive governments that can and would cause harm to you for transactions that they see as unlawful because it may harm their control over their population or they don't support basic human rights and supporting any organizations that support actions they don't like or receiving support from such organizations would result in harm to the user of such system
okay now this is directly contradicting your claim earlier, which was that monero is neither better nor worse at skirting laws. now you are saying that it helps you transact even under an oppressive government that would like you not to.
this activity will happen with any banking system, they are still a minority of transactions and the same is true with traditional banking.
fundamentally, no. you need to address the point that the traditional banking system is bound by laws but monero is not. this is a fundamental difference that you can't wave away by saying "the same is true with normal banking". normal banks can and will go after people doing illegal things such as money laundering. this is impossible in monero.
illegally obtained coins must still be laundered the same as cash but may be laundered via internet businesses instead is probably the only "downside"
correct, both CAN be laundered, but cash has serial numbers and can be traced, monero cannot
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:44
what's the (supposed) problem with inflation?
debt fueled, cryptocurrency is an asset
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:44
nonsense words
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i explained why the supposed problem with inflation is not occuring in usd versus crypto
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Brother leijurv
no, you don't get to say that, unless you want to take back your earlier statement that hiding tx from government is neither easier or harder with monero
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:44
depends what your consider easier or harder is
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easier for who
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lol
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Brother leijurv
i explained why the supposed problem with inflation is not occuring in usd versus crypto
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:44
if the problem with inflation is that it decreases the value of the currency unpredictably, then you have to take into account the reality that that happens to usd way LESS than to crypto
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een snail from palestine
easier for who
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:45
are you playing dumb? easier for the person trying to hide the tx? who the fuck else
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Brother leijurv
no, you don't get to say that, unless you want to take back your earlier statement that hiding tx from government is neither easier or harder with monero
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:45
monero gives this to the innocent user by default that is good enough
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een snail from palestine
depends what your consider easier or harder is
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:45
are you literally questioning the concept of difficulty
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 04:45
Wait it’s still going on
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een snail from palestine
monero gives this to the innocent user by default that is good enough
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:45
another non-answer
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:45
monero won't prevent you from being caught
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:45
will it make it harder for you to get caught? rolling_eyes_cat
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 04:45
Mason argument tier list
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Brother leijurv
will it make it harder for you to get caught? rolling_eyes_cat
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:46
depends?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:46
on average.
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:46
compared to what?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:46
hoooooooooooly fuck you are definitely playing dumb
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:46
no
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:46
whenever you dont want to answer a question your way of wiggling out is to ask endless endless endless clarifying questions that dont matter
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:46
??
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there is more to it
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:47
example: the last dozen mesages
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:47
you just ask questions so you can move the goal post again
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lol
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every time
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im asking you to specify
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and you never do
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because u dont care
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:47
what are you talking about
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:47
u just want to avoid
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:47
i answer ALL your questions
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Brother leijurv
hoooooooooooly fuck you are definitely playing dumb
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:47
.
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Brother leijurv
whenever you dont want to answer a question your way of wiggling out is to ask endless endless endless clarifying questions that dont matter
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:47
.
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:47
compared to the traditional financial system
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which is the comparison
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we
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are
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making
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thats the entire discussion
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:47
there is more to it then what can be explained with a small answer
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lol
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:47
what else could we be comparing to
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"compared to what" is ABSOLUTELY a troll clarifying question
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you KNOW that we are talking about crypto versus traditional financial system
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:48
you cant compare cryptocurrency directly to traditional banking
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:48
oh really
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een snail from palestine
privacy, safety and stability
  • privacy by default (no loopholes required like the regular banking system till you touch the regular banking system)
  • not inflated by "justified" debt at an unpredictable rate
  • no one party has a decision over your transactions unless they have your private key
    • banks and governments don't decide for you.
    • cryptocurrency is a more stable and safer asset then any other asset they can obtain in some countries such as china (it is not possible to own a home in china and the stock market is unstable)
    • no legal identity required as long as you stay within the currency
    • safety from oppressive governments that can and would cause harm to you for transactions that they see as unlawful because it may harm their control over their population or they don't support basic human rights and supporting any organizations that support actions they don't like or receiving support from such organizations would result in harm to the user of such system.
    • "government can seize your physical cash just as easily as your private key actually"
      • This is just false, a private key does not need to physically exist to hold the currency and may only exists outside of someones head for the time it takes for a transaction to be sent.
  • illegal activity
    • this activity will happen with any banking system, they are still a minority of transactions and the same is true with traditional banking.
    • illegally obtained coins must still be laundered the same as cash but may be laundered via internet businesses instead is probably the only "downside"
    • some illegal activity such as drugs wouldn't be as immoral and they wouldn't need to operate through any loopholes if the activity wasn't illegal.
speed
  • transferring between countries faster then a wire transfer while being decentralized.
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:48
great then i can discard your entire super long message
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:48
even non anonymous coins can be used for illegal activity and be turned into cash
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:48
because now you've said that they can't be compared in this way (edited)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:48
so can credit card fraud
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een snail from palestine
even non anonymous coins can be used for illegal activity and be turned into cash
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:48
seriously what the fuck dude
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:49
idk what your on about
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:49
you are doing gray fallacy so hard that i literally give up on treating it as good faith
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here's the problem
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you keep bringing up something being possible, then treating it like that's a reasonable concern
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Brother leijurv
you are doing gray fallacy so hard that i literally give up on treating it as good faith
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:49
your just giving bad faith responses then calling me bad faith
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rofl
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:49
its like "lithium batteries CAN catch on fire, so teslas are worse than gas cars"
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een snail from palestine
your just giving bad faith responses then calling me bad faith
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:49
every response has been good faith, please point to any specific place where i did not give a best effort to answer your question
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Brother leijurv
you keep bringing up something being possible, then treating it like that's a reasonable concern
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:50
heres one, with cryptocurrency it is possible for someone to guess your private key by random chance. this is a bad thing. someone could steal your money
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:50
your asking simple questions to attempt to word play everything
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:50
(this is a TROLL EXAMPLE of a criticism because the odds of it are negligible)
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:50
ur acting in bad faith the entire time
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:50
you are confusing something being POSSIBLE with something being WORTHY OF CONCERN
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:50
your trying to force words in my mouth lol
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een snail from palestine
ur acting in bad faith the entire time
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:50
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Brother leijurv
every response has been good faith, please point to any specific place where i did not give a best effort to answer your question
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:51
every time
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een snail from palestine
your trying to force words in my mouth lol
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:51
yeah this is how arguing works, i try to ask you what you think
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:51
every time u talk
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een snail from palestine
every time
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:51
give an example
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Brother leijurv
give an example
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:51
every message you have sent here
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rofl
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:51
give an example
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:51
all of them
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??
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:51
give an example
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Brother leijurv
every response has been good faith, please point to any specific place where i did not give a best effort to answer your question
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:51
.
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Brother leijurv
give an example
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:51
.
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Brother leijurv
give an example
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:51
.
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Brother leijurv
give an example
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:51
.
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Brother leijurv
you are doing gray fallacy so hard that i literally give up on treating it as good faith
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:51
.
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 04:51
which one of you is based here
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Brother leijurv
you are confusing something being POSSIBLE with something being WORTHY OF CONCERN
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:51
.
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 04:51
whose pro crypto
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Brother Fruit
whose pro crypto
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:51
me
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pro crypto
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pro drugs
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een snail from palestine
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:51
this was literally followed by me saying "here's the problem" then explaining it
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:51
pro freedom
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 04:51
leijurv is a former crypto warrior
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:51
leif is right wing rn
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een snail from palestine
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:52
this is a valid criticism of you, where's the bad faith?
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een snail from palestine
leif is right wing rn
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:52
LOL crypto is absolitely right wing
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:52
he thinks freedom is bad
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:52
arguing against consumer protections is DEFINITELY right wing
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Brother leijurv
LOL crypto is absolitely right wing
Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 04:52
it CAN be left wing!
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Brother leijurv
LOL crypto is absolitely right wing
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:52
right wing is not for freedom honey
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Brother Fruit
it CAN be left wing!
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:52
no smiling_cat_with_3_hearts
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Brother leijurv
arguing against consumer protections is DEFINITELY right wing
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:52
wrong
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een snail from palestine
wrong
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:52
LOL
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:52
consumer protections are only for the people who don't know better
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Brother leijurv
yeah this is how arguing works, i try to ask you what you think
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:52
im still giggling about this
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:52
and they should not be using the crypto currency anyways
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 04:52
I’ve kind of changed my tune on crypto in general after my experience trying to get donations to Palestinian charities last year. if it could be made to be more efficient and easier to spend for an organization, there’d at least be one counterbalance to shit like this
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BASED
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:52
0x cant handle the idea of a hypothetical question because he knows that if he answers genuinely it will take away from the argument
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:53
leif went to buy hrt shit
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then raged over crypto btw
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then wondered why
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the reality is banks won't let them
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even if their business is legal
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:53
Some Of You May Die But That Is A Sacrifice I Am Willing To Make
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 04:53
then there is fraud
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:53
such a god damn retarded argument
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 04:53
but palestine
04:53
consider That
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 04:54
Who’s Palestine
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Brother leijurv
such a god damn retarded argument
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:54
"i can name a thing that should be allowed but isn't!!! (donating to palestine)" ............ (???) ............ (retardation) ...... (???) ............. ---> "it is actually good if the government can't enforce laws"
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 04:54
Stop flaming and respond to my DM angrywojak
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 04:54
what if the government is anti palestine
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:54
that doesn't change any part of my above msg
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The government has been anti Palestine since 1901
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 04:55
you are presuming the “laws being enforced” is a good thing
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:55
the existence of a bad law does not morally speaking give you free rein to call for flaunting all other laws
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Brother Fruit
you are presuming the “laws being enforced” is a good thing
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:55
👍 smiling_cat_with_3_hearts
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in the specific case of financial crimes prevention
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extortion, money laundering, etc
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all the crimes that can be done just by moving around money
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 04:56
so what’s the solution if the power to prevent fraud also grants the power to control where you can send money to
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(palestine, etc)
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how do you deal with that?
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Brother Fruit
so what’s the solution if the power to prevent fraud also grants the power to control where you can send money to
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:57
right, it's a tradeoff. i could just as easily say to you "so what's the solution if the power to send money without anyone being able to control it also removes all ability to prevent fraud / ransomware / purchasing child pornography"
04:57
"not being able to donate to palestine" is, as i'm sure you can understand, a much smaller concern than Literally All Possible Financial Crimes
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 04:58
I’m not arguing for crypto to replace fiat
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:58
the way i described it earlier was "what if we had the purge for 24 hours, but the crimes that were legal were just the financial ones"
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would that be a good thing?
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sure, some people would take the opportunity to donate to palestine
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 04:58
I have never used crypto and i don’t expect i will ever NEED to
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:58
but i'm sure way more would commit fraud, extortion, etc etc etc etc
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 04:58
in the near future
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at least
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If you don’t want to get scammed don’t use crypto
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Brother Fruit
how do you deal with that?
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:59
the problem you raise is essentially "if the state has the practical ability to regulate something, how do you handle the case when they get an edge case wrong?"
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If i lose the ability to donate to palestine the planet will explode
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 04:59
If you need to do sketchy stuff you may want to use crypto for that and that alone
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Brother leijurv
the problem you raise is essentially "if the state has the practical ability to regulate something, how do you handle the case when they get an edge case wrong?"
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 04:59
this is a fundamental idea of democracy
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i'm open to having my mind changed, but i'm pretty sure this is an ontological "can't have it both ways" scenario
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:00
I don’t respect the state
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:00
for as long as there are laws, at any level, and enforcement, at any level, this problem is there
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:00
I think the ability to bypass the state is cool
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Brother Fruit
I think the ability to bypass the state is cool
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:00
but if bypassing the state was easier, what actions would in practice become more common
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maybe a bit of the poggers ones like palestine
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but way more of the ones that are truly actually immoral like extortion and fraud and ransomware, no?
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:00
i think crypto bros are repulsive and the framework of looking at it as an investment instead of an actual usable currency has fucked up a lot of stuff
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 05:01
I can't wait to see how people express their antisemitism after the Israel/Palestine conflict is over
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:01
but the idea of currency unblockable by the global financial system seeks pretty swag
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 05:01
Its gonna be a change up
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Брат Bird
I can't wait to see how people express their antisemitism after the Israel/Palestine conflict is over
Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:01
please leave
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Brother Fruit
but the idea of currency unblockable by the global financial system seeks pretty swag
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:01
05:01
but if bypassing the state was easier, what actions would in practice become more common maybe a bit of the poggers ones like palestine but way more of the ones that are truly actually immoral like extortion and fraud and ransomware, no?
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in other words: is it really "pretty swag"? would the net effect really be swag?
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:01
I’m not advocating for crypto to replace fiat
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:01
literally what
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:01
So
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How is fraud a concern of mine
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:02
how does that address what i said lol
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if crypto becomes more popular or easy or accepted, extortion and fraud and ransomware become easier
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theres no need to replace fiat
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ransomware exists today lol
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:02
Yeah?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:02
yes
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:02
I don’t care
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:02
you dont care if the net effect of crypto being more popular is good or bad?
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:03
Nope
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Brother Fruit
I’m not advocating for crypto to replace fiat
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:03
but you're advocating for crypto to be an option, such as for donating to palestine?
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:03
Yes
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:03
then crypto is also an option for any other crime??????????????
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:03
Sure
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Crime already happens without crypto
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Wall street literally criminal enterprise
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:03
ransomware is practically impossible without crypto - (black/white sense) fraud and extortion is MUCH EASIER with crypto - (shades of gray sense)
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Brother Fruit
Crime already happens without crypto
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:04
yeah, but does crypto make it even worse maybe? lol
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:04
Doesn’t bother me
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I think being able to buy drugs anonymously online is very nice
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Or like anything anonymously
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You’re showing your liberal nature here
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Anything you say
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:04
is that worth it over the ability for viruses to actually extract financial value from their victims, something that wasnt previously possible?
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:04
Yeah just don’t get a virus
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:05
??
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:05
It’s never been something I’ve had to worry about
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:05
are you doing a meme where you pretend to be the sigma chad who doesn't care about anything
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Brother Fruit
It’s never been something I’ve had to worry about
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:05
how is this an argument for anything lmfaooooooooo
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:06
Maybe if the government didn’t want their power grid shut down they should’ve been updated their software
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 18/05/2022 05:06
I Put A Pipe Bomb In The The BlockChain So Anyone Who Steals My Cripto Will Be Blown Up To Death
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Brother leijurv
how is this an argument for anything lmfaooooooooo
Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:06
What are you advocating
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end it with the dont care meme rq
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:06
Are you advocating for a ban on crypto
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Brother Fruit
Are you advocating for a ban on crypto
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:06
sunglasses_cat yes
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 18/05/2022 05:06
yes.
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:06
Ok
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:06
make it as hard as possible
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male)
I Put A Pipe Bomb In The The BlockChain So Anyone Who Steals My Cripto Will Be Blown Up To Death
I’ll steal ur damn Cripto
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:07
get rid of those bitcoin ATMs in gas stations, a critical component in the pipeline of "phone scammer -> old person loses their money irretrievably"
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Old people dont need money
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 18/05/2022 05:07
in general i am in the same boat as henry (it doesnt effect me = i dont care), however i like crypto people less than i like normal people so making crypto people upset is morally correct for me
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:07
It seems that your issue is not with crypto as it exists today but with the entire concept of a decentralized unregulated currency (edited)
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Is that true?
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:07
yes smiling_cat_with_3_hearts
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i think that the freedom to transact (without any external oversight) is NOT an ontological/fundamental good / right
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Im not too fond of cripto people, like pepsi said earlier
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:08
transacting value is inextricably linked with debt to society
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Crypto people though, oof
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:08
Ok i just fundamentally disagree with you I think the ability to bypass an oppressive state is more important than fighting ransomware
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:08
and it enables exploitation and coercion
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:08
And i don’t think there’s any way you can change my mind nor could i change yours
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Brother Fruit
Ok i just fundamentally disagree with you I think the ability to bypass an oppressive state is more important than fighting ransomware
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:08
id say that oppressive states can sometimes result in a siotation where crypto is good
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Ok i just fundamentally disagree with you I think the ability to bypass an oppressive state is more important than fighting ransomware
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:09
but to the degree of the united states in the present day, i dont think bypassing it is a moral good at all (edited)
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:09
I thought you were based… 😿
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:09
but sure i get and agree with the idea that bypassing a government CAN be moral, if the system is very repressive and such
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dont worry kitten i still agree with that
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Brother leijurv
privacy by default (no loopholes required like the regular banking system till you touch the regular banking system)
i agree that this is an effect, i just don't agree it's a good one. earlier you said that hiding transactions from the government is not easier or harder in monero, so i don't think you get to claim this as a benefit now
not inflated by "justified" debt at an unpredictable rate
what's the (supposed) problem with inflation? it's that it (supposedly) decreases the value of the money you hold. here's the problem: despite bitcoin / monero / others having supposedly perfectly predictable inflation, their values swing wildly (WAY more than usd). clearly, this "predictable inflation" thing is NOT working. meaning: it is NOT preventing the issue that inflation supposedly causes in usd. maybe it's even evidence that adjusted taxes / issuance is NEEDED in order to maintain stable value?
no one party has a decision over your transactions unless they have your private key
you could also say this about cash https://xkcd.com/538/
This is just false, a private key does not need to physically exist to hold the currency and may only exists outside of someones head for the time it takes for a transaction to be sent.
(out of order due to applicability) a private key can also be thought of like an anonymous safe deposit box at a bank, or a number of other things that already exist. maybe you buried a treasure chest full of gold at coordinates that you memorized.
cryptocurrency is a more stable and safer asset then any other asset they can obtain in some countries such as china (it is not possible to own a home in china and the stock market is unstable)
i would concede that even with the incredible shortcomings of cryptocurrency, there are some scenarios you can construct in which it could be better to hold than the currency of the country itself. however, these reasons don't apply to the usa / first world countries like canada or eu, and to the question of if monero ought to be celebrated or shunned (or maybe even legal or banned)
no legal identity required as long as you stay within the currency
whoa there, i thought you said that monero didn't help you subvert laws. this can't be a benefit over the traditional financial system since you said monero is neither better nor worse
safety from oppressive governments that can and would cause harm to you for transactions that they see as unlawful because it may harm their control over their population or they don't support basic human rights and supporting any organizations that support actions they don't like or receiving support from such organizations would result in harm to the user of such system
okay now this is directly contradicting your claim earlier, which was that monero is neither better nor worse at skirting laws. now you are saying that it helps you transact even under an oppressive government that would like you not to.
this activity will happen with any banking system, they are still a minority of transactions and the same is true with traditional banking.
fundamentally, no. you need to address the point that the traditional banking system is bound by laws but monero is not. this is a fundamental difference that you can't wave away by saying "the same is true with normal banking". normal banks can and will go after people doing illegal things such as money laundering. this is impossible in monero.
illegally obtained coins must still be laundered the same as cash but may be laundered via internet businesses instead is probably the only "downside"
correct, both CAN be laundered, but cash has serial numbers and can be traced, monero cannot
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:09
you could also say this about cash https://xkcd.com/538/
nah, if they want the info on my computer they will need to be willing to go all the way to killing me
(out of order due to applicability) a private key can also be thought of like an anonymous safe deposit box at a bank, or a number of other things that already exist. maybe you buried a treasure chest full of gold at coordinates that you memorized.
other then the fact that you can memorize the actual key
this can't be a benefit over the traditional financial system since you said monero is neither better nor worse
bait response avoiding the statement
okay now this is directly contradicting your claim earlier, which was that monero is neither better nor worse at skirting laws. now you are saying that it helps you transact even under an oppressive government that would like you not to.
? avoiding it entirely ?
fundamentally, no. you need to address the point that the traditional banking system is bound by laws but monero is not.
traditional banking system is bound by many laws but not all the laws are equal.
some of it isn't. sure. what matters is the average, the "net effect". the net effect is STRONGLY in the direction of illegal.
this is not true if majority of cryptocurrency usage is entirely legal and this is the case. this is like laying the net effect for using cash is strongly in the direction of illegal but that is not true either. most of the usage of ALL of these systems is legal.
i gave many examples of financial transactions that are illegal, and in every single one i demonstrated how it's on-average immoral even despite the exceptions that you brought up, there were no cases where the exceptions beat the norm.
victimless crimes don't matter and can operate with cash, gift cards and plenty of other things. many illegal businesses (with victims) such as scams bring in millions perfectly fine without cryptocurrency and launder it directly but the only reason why they can operate as well as they do is because their country does not care as long as they don't hurt their own citizens.
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:09
oh my god
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 18/05/2022 05:09
the essay dropped
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Brother leijurv
dont worry kitten i still agree with that
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:10
i just think that the usa has a pretty good handle on financial crimes rn and it doesn't meaningfully impact transactions that should be legal but aren't rn to a degree that outweights all other financial crime
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i.e. financial censorship in the usa is just not a big deal compared to other countries or compared to all other possible crimes
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:10
figures the rich kid would be worried about financial crime 🤦‍♂️
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Brother leijurv
0x cant handle the idea of a hypothetical question because he knows that if he answers genuinely it will take away from the argument
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:10
yet another bad faith response
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:10
low blow, i know
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sorry kitten
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een snail from palestine
you could also say this about cash https://xkcd.com/538/
nah, if they want the info on my computer they will need to be willing to go all the way to killing me
(out of order due to applicability) a private key can also be thought of like an anonymous safe deposit box at a bank, or a number of other things that already exist. maybe you buried a treasure chest full of gold at coordinates that you memorized.
other then the fact that you can memorize the actual key
this can't be a benefit over the traditional financial system since you said monero is neither better nor worse
bait response avoiding the statement
okay now this is directly contradicting your claim earlier, which was that monero is neither better nor worse at skirting laws. now you are saying that it helps you transact even under an oppressive government that would like you not to.
? avoiding it entirely ?
fundamentally, no. you need to address the point that the traditional banking system is bound by laws but monero is not.
traditional banking system is bound by many laws but not all the laws are equal.
some of it isn't. sure. what matters is the average, the "net effect". the net effect is STRONGLY in the direction of illegal.
this is not true if majority of cryptocurrency usage is entirely legal and this is the case. this is like laying the net effect for using cash is strongly in the direction of illegal but that is not true either. most of the usage of ALL of these systems is legal.
i gave many examples of financial transactions that are illegal, and in every single one i demonstrated how it's on-average immoral even despite the exceptions that you brought up, there were no cases where the exceptions beat the norm.
victimless crimes don't matter and can operate with cash, gift cards and plenty of other things. many illegal businesses (with victims) such as scams bring in millions perfectly fine without cryptocurrency and launder it directly but the only reason why they can operate as well as they do is because their country does not care as long as they don't hurt their own citizens.
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:11
nah, if they want the info on my computer they will need to be willing to go all the way to killing me
as i said, you can apply this argument to literally any hidden information. hiding value in hidden information is simple such as the examples i gave of a bank safe deposit box. there is no fundamental difference here
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bait response avoiding the statement ? avoiding it entirely ?
yeah because it contradicts your earlier point
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een snail from palestine
yet another bad faith response
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:11
you literally said that you wouldn't engage with my question because you didn't like where it was leading you
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Brother Fruit
what if the government is anti palestine
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:12
what if you have family in Russia :D and they don't have a bank account at one of the banks or money transfer companies that are except from sanctions.
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:12
literally this
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:12
this is not true if majority of cryptocurrency usage is entirely legal and this is the case. this is like laying the net effect for using cash is strongly in the direction of illegal but that is not true either. most of the usage of ALL of these systems is legal.
sure, maybe the majority of cryptocurrency usage is entirely legal. here's the question: if you banned cryptocurrency, would that usage be banned? no, it would just go on the traditional system, no problem. but the illegal usage would be blocked. yay. good outcome
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Brother Fruit
so what’s the solution if the power to prevent fraud also grants the power to control where you can send money to
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:13
it does not prevent fraud, the credit card companies or banks don't care, they are FORCED to care by the law.
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:13
victimless crimes don't matter and can operate with cash, gift cards and plenty of other things. many illegal businesses (with victims) such as scams bring in millions perfectly fine without cryptocurrency and launder it directly but the only reason why they can operate as well as they do is because their country does not care as long as they don't hurt their own citizens.
dude this is not even worth a reply, this demonstrates having completely ignored everything i've said. obviously yes scams exist outside crypto. the question is "does crypto make those scams EASIER". you keep ignoring this question by pointing out that scams already exist.
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:13
literally malding rn
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pure seethe oozing from that reply
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Brother leijurv
right, it's a tradeoff. i could just as easily say to you "so what's the solution if the power to send money without anyone being able to control it also removes all ability to prevent fraud / ransomware / purchasing child pornography"
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:14
purchasing child pornography
this is such a bait for your argument. the same can be said for TOR and other beneficial services.
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:14
tor doesn't let you send money
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you cant purchase child pornography with tor
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you need some other way to send money
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:15
tor lets you view it
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:15
viewing CP is WAY less bad than paying for it, because paying for it creates an actual financial incentive to produce it
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:15
vaushite spotted
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Roof of skyscraper vs peak of mountain
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:16
i tend not to think about cp at all
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Brother Fruit
vaushite spotted
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:16
time to deploy the "viewing CP is less bad than purchasing a new cell phone" faith catsmirk
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(purchasing a cell phone causes more child endangerment, exploitation, harm than viewing CP, yes)
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:16
such an insane thing to say
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Brother Fruit
such an insane thing to say
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:16
heh heh pushes up vaush glasses
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:16
it’s insane and deranged
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:16
one CP image can be viewed an unlimited number of times
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you cant copy paste a cell phone
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:16
maybe you’re right? i don’t know if i agree
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but
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keep that weird reasoning to yourself
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:17
each cell phone you buy marginally increases the amount of harm done to child slaves by a non negligiable amount
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:17
it looks really weird
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:17
they must mine one more cell phone of materials
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Sociopathic example
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Brother leijurv
"not being able to donate to palestine" is, as i'm sure you can understand, a much smaller concern than Literally All Possible Financial Crimes
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:17
Literally All Possible Financial Crimes
shitty argument, majority of crypto transactions are legitimate. crypto prevents financial crime loss for merchants. stripe and other processors will ban you because of this fraud and have bad protections for it.
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Literally All Possible Financial Crimes
shitty argument, majority of crypto transactions are legitimate. crypto prevents financial crime loss for merchants. stripe and other processors will ban you because of this fraud and have bad protections for it.
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:17
majority of crypto transactions are legitimate
this doesn't matter. if you think this matters you have to argue why. my point on why it doesn't can be found here https://discord.com/channels/343851086026637313/861294233897402418/976336480576348200
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Брат Bird
I can't wait to see how people express their antisemitism after the Israel/Palestine conflict is over
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:17
so true
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Brother Fruit
I’m not advocating for crypto to replace fiat
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:17
redpilled
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Sociopathic example
Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:18
literally it is, why would that ever be something you think about? why are you worried about the moral implications of viewing cp? guilty conscience?
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Brother Fruit
I don’t care
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:18
redpilled
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last two words
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Brother leijurv
if crypto becomes more popular or easy or accepted, extortion and fraud and ransomware become easier
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:19
ransomware doesn't need cryptocurrency to survive other then on mass scale with many small victims. it is more safe but a million dollars is a million dollars.
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:19
oh really?
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how could i write a ransomware virus without cryptocurrency (edited)
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Brother Fruit
literally it is, why would that ever be something you think about? why are you worried about the moral implications of viewing cp? guilty conscience?
Worst part is i understood the example and then came to a second realization after what u followed with lol
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Brother leijurv
how could i write a ransomware virus without cryptocurrency (edited)
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:19
how would i receive the ransom?
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:19
there is real fraud where people ask people to mail money and they do it
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these fraud businesses make millions like this and have puppets who collect the money and drop it off somewhere else
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ransomware doesn't need cryptocurrency to survive other then on mass scale with many small victims. it is more safe but a million dollars is a million dollars.
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:20
oh so you agree that crypto makes "the bad kind" of ransomware (mass scale with small victims) easier
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uh oh
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:20
or mail it over seas again
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:20
i thought we said that crypto didn't make illegal activity easier
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uh oh!
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uh oh!
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uh oh!
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Brother leijurv
ransomware is practically impossible without crypto - (black/white sense) fraud and extortion is MUCH EASIER with crypto - (shades of gray sense)
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:20
i don't care lol
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Dont care 🚗
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don’t care lol*
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Add a sped up gif too
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Brother leijurv
i thought we said that crypto didn't make illegal activity easier
Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:21
you should be sayingn immoral
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Brother leijurv
get rid of those bitcoin ATMs in gas stations, a critical component in the pipeline of "phone scammer -> old person loses their money irretrievably"
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:21
these same old people will MAIL cash
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these same old people will MAIL cash
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:21
mm but that's harder
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if that were easier we'd still be mailing cash
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but no, the new scam is crypto
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Brother Fruit
you should be sayingn immoral
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:21
i disagree
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crypto specifically makes evading the law easy
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:22
i love evading the law
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Brother leijurv
i just think that the usa has a pretty good handle on financial crimes rn and it doesn't meaningfully impact transactions that should be legal but aren't rn to a degree that outweights all other financial crime
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:22
you have accepted illegal money before shut the fuck up bro
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LOL
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you have accepted thealtening illegal funds
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holy shit
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:22
evading the law is something i do often and guilt free
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Brother leijurv
crypto specifically makes evading the law easy
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:22
it just so happens to coincide that the SPECIFIC laws we have on the books, today, in this country, regarding financial transactions, are well-enough aligned with morality, that it goes on to suggest that said evasion is also immoral
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you have accepted illegal money before shut the fuck up bro
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:23
how does this contradict my argument?
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i have also used bitcoin too
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so?
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i.e. financial censorship in the usa is just not a big deal compared to other countries or compared to all other possible crimes
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:24
yet financial crime is a minority of transactions and financial crime via the regular banking system costs over a trillion is loss
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Brother leijurv
bait response avoiding the statement ? avoiding it entirely ?
yeah because it contradicts your earlier point
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:24
avoiding it again
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Brother leijurv
i.e. financial censorship in the usa is just not a big deal compared to other countries or compared to all other possible crimes
Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:24
this is insane lol did you forget about sanctions?
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Brother leijurv
nah, if they want the info on my computer they will need to be willing to go all the way to killing me
as i said, you can apply this argument to literally any hidden information. hiding value in hidden information is simple such as the examples i gave of a bank safe deposit box. there is no fundamental difference here
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:24
hiding information in your head is not the same as having something physically in a bank, your private key in a safety deposit box can be stolen at any time.
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:25
sanctions are economic warfare
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avoiding it again
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:25
when i reply to you, you cannot expect me to juggle two directly contradicting points, it is fair and reasonable for me to ask you to clarify which you believe before i write a reply
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this is not true if majority of cryptocurrency usage is entirely legal and this is the case. this is like laying the net effect for using cash is strongly in the direction of illegal but that is not true either. most of the usage of ALL of these systems is legal.
sure, maybe the majority of cryptocurrency usage is entirely legal. here's the question: if you banned cryptocurrency, would that usage be banned? no, it would just go on the traditional system, no problem. but the illegal usage would be blocked. yay. good outcome
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:25
lots of legal usage of cryptocurrency cannot operate via banks
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een snail from palestine
lots of legal usage of cryptocurrency cannot operate via banks
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:26
im not so sure thats true
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:26
credit card processors and banks won't accept money from drugs that are legal in 1 state but not federally
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:27
oh but drugs are bad so that doesn’t matter
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 18/05/2022 05:27
finally good take
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:28
the ability to buy drugs is nowhere near morally compelling enough to outweigh fraud and extortion etc
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:28
crypto also prevents harassment and fraud from the people who sent you the currency while you can still report that income to the IRS and goverment perfectly fine.
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:28
this is futureclient brain talking lol
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:28
i simply don’t care about fraud and extortion as a nebulous concept
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not enough to get to me to advocate banning crypto
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Brother leijurv
viewing CP is WAY less bad than paying for it, because paying for it creates an actual financial incentive to produce it
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:29
why would you pay for it and this is more common to happen without crypto currency and more like amazon wishlist
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oh but drugs are bad so that doesn’t matter
Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:29
you are confusing the morality of a personal decision to break/bend a law with the morality of a broad societal incentive shift to make it much easier to break any such law
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:29
all the people i know who have been groomed had shit bought via amazon wishlists or some shit
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Brother Fruit 18/05/2022 05:29
meanwhile i receive a lot of potential benefit from crypto
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:29
so true
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:29
sorry gotta go bike to chipotle before it closes, be back later
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He would be the guy that enters at 9:58PM
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Brother Nordic of the West 18/05/2022 05:30
its finally over
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:31
crypto is not a replacement for fiat currency, so yes it does matter because its not a replacement for it and has less criminal usage then fiat.
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Brother leijurv
how would i receive the ransom?
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:31
via mail? lol
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Why are u still running
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:32
I'll argue in vc while biking fuck it
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Brother leijurv
crypto specifically makes evading the law easy
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:33
good
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ITS A TRIATHLON
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Holy shit (edited)
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Brother Entropy 18/05/2022 05:33
@Brother Fruit @een snail from palestine mic up bitches (orders from a biking leijurv)
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We’re only 33% done
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Brother leijurv
this is futureclient brain talking lol
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:34
no this is more true for people who do freelance work for weirdos
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like artists
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Sister Пепси Мальчик (male) 18/05/2022 05:35
i do not support artists
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Brother leijurv
the ability to buy drugs is nowhere near morally compelling enough to outweigh fraud and extortion etc
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:35
it is not just drugs.
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anything legal but gray cannot operate via regular banks without a bank deciding the risk is worth it (edited)
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een snail from palestine
no this is more true for people who do freelance work for weirdos
Brother Entropy 18/05/2022 05:35
leif: the traditional banking system allows for irreversible actions
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Brother Entropy
leif: the traditional banking system allows for irreversible actions
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:36
what does that even mean
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Brother Entropy 18/05/2022 05:36
just stop accepting credit cards
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ez
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een snail from palestine
what does that even mean
Brother Entropy 18/05/2022 05:37
ox you are retarded if you want your irreversible transactions, you dont need crypto
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Brother Entropy
ox you are retarded if you want your irreversible transactions, you dont need crypto
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:37
wire transfers are not irreversible
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Brother Entropy 18/05/2022 05:37
who the fuck cares
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some things are
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Brother Dectonic 18/05/2022 05:37
I thought that said wife transfers
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Brother Entropy
who the fuck cares
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:37
bait
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Brother Entropy
some things are
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:37
like?
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Brother Entropy 18/05/2022 05:37
sell futureclient using only cash, in person, to kalju
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ez
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Brother Dectonic 18/05/2022 05:37
Weed money
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Brother Entropy
sell futureclient using only cash, in person, to kalju
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:37
troll comment
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cash is a waste of space
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Brother Dectonic 18/05/2022 05:38
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een snail from palestine
cash is a waste of space
Brother Entropy 18/05/2022 05:39
monero is a waste of disk space :sunglasses_cat:
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Brother Entropy
monero is a waste of disk space :sunglasses_cat:
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:39
thankfully disk space is free with time (edited)
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physical space does not get more compact
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thankfully disk space is free with time (edited)
Brother Entropy 18/05/2022 05:40
you are retarded no its not d'oh
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:40
your cash doesn't get more compact either
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 05:40
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een snail from palestine
your cash doesn't get more compact either
Brother Entropy 18/05/2022 05:40
yes it does ever heard of inflation, sweaty
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een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:40
you don't even need to hold the entire monero blockchain to do transactions (edited)
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Brother Entropy
yes it does ever heard of inflation, sweaty
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:41
?????
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you don't even need to hold the entire monero blockchain to do transactions (edited)
Brother Entropy 18/05/2022 05:41
this is literally untrue you need to keep keys from everything
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Brother Entropy
this is literally untrue you need to keep keys from everything
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:42
those are smaller then the entire blockchain
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:42
They still grow with O(n)
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Brother leijurv
They still grow with O(n)
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:43
and they will take up 10nm of physical space for a MB in a few years (edited)
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Wow
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Брат Bird
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Брат Bird 18/05/2022 05:44
Current mason argument tier list
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
een snail from palestine 18/05/2022 05:45
glad to see i am on top of the list
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:45
Lol
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Brother Dectonic 18/05/2022 05:45
Be China
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Ban crypto
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Брат Bird 18/05/2022 05:46
Smart
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Brother leijurv 18/05/2022 05:47
chance 1
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This incentivizes illegal behavior
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Should this sale be banned
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Brother leijurv
privacy by default (no loopholes required like the regular banking system till you touch the regular banking system)
i agree that this is an effect, i just don't agree it's a good one. earlier you said that hiding transactions from the government is not easier or harder in monero, so i don't think you get to claim this as a benefit now
not inflated by "justified" debt at an unpredictable rate
what's the (supposed) problem with inflation? it's that it (supposedly) decreases the value of the money you hold. here's the problem: despite bitcoin / monero / others having supposedly perfectly predictable inflation, their values swing wildly (WAY more than usd). clearly, this "predictable inflation" thing is NOT working. meaning: it is NOT preventing the issue that inflation supposedly causes in usd. maybe it's even evidence that adjusted taxes / issuance is NEEDED in order to maintain stable value?
no one party has a decision over your transactions unless they have your private key
you could also say this about cash https://xkcd.com/538/
This is just false, a private key does not need to physically exist to hold the currency and may only exists outside of someones head for the time it takes for a transaction to be sent.
(out of order due to applicability) a private key can also be thought of like an anonymous safe deposit box at a bank, or a number of other things that already exist. maybe you buried a treasure chest full of gold at coordinates that you memorized.