Spawnmasons - applicant-committee

new world order when?

pretty good name

02:46

there are a lot of brownpilled people in emperium

02:46

spawnmasons are boomers, emperium are zoomers

a lot of people have been purged

02:47

average age is 18

02:47

the state of emperium is good

boomer and zoomer is a mindset

02:47

and i think that's subjective

whats the difference?

lol Ain is spitting truth

if anyone on the spawnmasons side actually gave a damn, i reckon there'd be a slim potential window to make a merger work

02:49

it's a pipe dream though, lol

02:49

never gonna happen

^^^plus I'd have to probably concede power

both sides' leaders would, that's the premise of a merger

I dont like this already

smib

at the end of the day you can be in both groups anyway so who cares

it would be

epic

02:54

but i think i said it wrong before; the potential window of opportunity of this working wouldnt be with either group as they currently are, major changes would be required

you’d have to lose your edgy brand

02:54

new world order when

and i think neither side's game unless this starts looking like an attractive option

02:56

if it were to happen though, i think we'd form a pvp division comprising a few masons and most of emperium

02:56

then that could finally be official

>implying pvp is our main priority

it's what you're good at

we're good at everything, thats what it means to be f top :^)

nah would disagree

02:59

big meme ur doing but nah

02:59

not that you're not the best thing right now, but that you think you're good at everything

true, we can't seem to lose very well

good one

03:01

do you still have that midland guy?

ye

you can't be that good then haha

03:01

that's your standard huh

I'm about to drop a fat red pilled base and you tell me how long it was around

03:02

03:02

that's "redpilled"? (1 word btw)

idc, how old do you think this base is?

a month probably

4 days

>4 days

03:03

>screenshot file 6th march

03:03

>implying we didn't take daily downloads

probably showing it during that snapshot because it looks almost the same by now, going against the point you're trying to make

it's actually nuked now

good base

this was a recruit base with all new people

long lasting

03:05

ah

everyone who built here besides mike entropy and scribble was a naked we found at spawn

employing nakeds at spawn is a questionable recruitment tactic

03:06

still, props to you for going out of your way

who cares when most of them are god tier

god knows if the worshipfuls could've been that proactive 2 months ago

03:06

you what lol?

they almost all in their 20s and skilled

many quit after a month or two, i'd imagine?

some will some won't

sounds like a solid group pursuit

we shouldn't have this convo in applicant committee

we've already done the deed, no point stopping

all I'm saying is it doesn't make sense for me to concede anything when we're already overflowing with people as it is

you'd only be conceding a little power personally and each group would be gaining a lot

03:17

but it shouldn't happen with either group in their current state

03:18

by no means am i actually endorsing this, just spitballing

define a little

you're the sole leader of emperium, you wouldn't be the only leader of the new group following a merger

03:21

again, this has no grounds for working at the current time

03:22

the spawnmasons would need a leader of their own with time and dedication, and need to resolve the infighting issues/memberships

03:22

someone like babbaj huh

03:22

and emperium had their own problems to resolve

I know this is all just speculation

03:23

such as?

i can't say for certain, i'm not up to speed

03:23

it's not compatible right now though, obviously

true news

i think the spawnmasons issues are harder to fix than emperium's though

just make someone fuhrer already

no one who henry will let have power wants to

03:27

including him

one of the prizes for negatives quest could be spawnmason leader

now that's something i can get behind

03:31

no one i can think of that henry won't let have power wants to either

03:31

except babbaj

I thought it was up to a vote of the people

you've been bluepilled

That would be fun

03:40

Like an internship thing

03:40

You get made a spawnmason

03:40

And you get to lead us for a week

strooth

Next time we’re playing sky block

that’s a response to Ain not you

No dupes

That may be the shittiest idea I’ve ever heard ngl herm

03:41

Not the sky block but the leaders

Lol I was like really?

03:41

Leader thing was a joke

SpawnMason scouts

03:42

anyway this group is a retirement home

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I've always thought of it as a country club

ye that too

03:43

perhaps at first

we need more women in the spawnmasons

03:44

first girl in the spawnmasons gets worshipful no questions asked

This group is a retirement home

@entropyanndroid nows your chance

Fat stinky sad red pill

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i'm talking biological woman, emperor

Wippity womedy I’m now a womeny

something i can impregnate, you feel me?

03:47

i'm talking vehicular warfare...

is anndroid a trap

idk i'm just guessing

03:47

i heard them in voice

>talks about impregnating them

03:48

>wonders why there aren't more girls in the masons

them ovulating was just a criterium, not my intent (edited)

03:49

cus i can't just say "girl" if i mean girl in 2019

1

03:49

i gotta say they have ovaries or i could be misinterpreted

03:51

we only ever had one girl, fuffer, and we made her worshipful

03:52

hornymasons

girls are extinct on 2b

03:53

they only exist in the minds of jaded oldfags

if i saw a girl ign on 2b, i would be more inclined to believe they're a guy behind the monitor than actually a chick

1

03:55

so mote it be

If only I were self indulgent enough to believe I should be a Worshipful because estrogen.

04:10

BabbaJ or Terbin would make the best choices for Worshipful selection imo at this time.

ProblematicMasons

04:15

@Ain adding this to the list of offenses you will be tried for by the cum tribunal

04:16

04:17

ufo

Cum Tribunal, eh? Forgive me, but I thought I got sworn into the Spawn Masons, not the Spawn Gnostics.

This is not the chat

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ah well the cum tribe is extremely exclusive, you shan’t need to worry about it

>shan't

04:24

I shan't in my pants once

get home and over 9000 messages

04:30

old memes are best

I was splashed by the cum tribe once

The cum tribe was all over my hair once. It was the end of an otherwise wonderful relationship.

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entroboobiesanndroid actually dropping redpilled worshipful recommendations (edited)

05:05

god bless

we lit nigga

i agree an initiate every week is too much if we can get existing masons active again then great but we do need a little new blood right

Prismary though

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If Jordan trusts Hanscor 100% thats enough for me.

ufo vouched for cyframe but i delayed it for a bit since he was vouching a lot

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiTon0pQlsEOLvvFbHS0cfA thats a no from me

2b2t Cyframe

wew a spawnfag

15:51

gotta agree

15:51

Agree

wow

16:14

@brother terbin

16:15

gonna just judge him with out getting to know him

16:15

i expected better from you

16:15

spawnfag =/= bad

yes it does?

nope

16:15

086 was a spawnfag

16:15

is he bad

as far as it's defined a spawnfag does nothing but fight at spawn. being a former spawnfag means having moved on from that.

well hes not a spawnfag then

16:16

cause he doesnt just fight at spawn

16:16

so

hmm at least no griefing vids

does he build shit?

idk why dont you ask him since hes about to become an initiate

well i cant... he's not in here yet

keyword "about"

16:18

oh wait no

16:18

he is

16:18

already

16:18

an initiate

why does jewfo keep shilling for brown people

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to make everyone in the group mad

16:28

cause its funny

at this point he shouldnt be allowed to vouch for any1 anymore

we have not yet passed anything for maximum numbers of vouches in a [insert appropriate time period here] maybe that's a talking point for today too... no offense ufo, but you seem to vouch a lot

16:44

not saying too much.... just a lot

https://i.gyazo.com/3d284701c2a0e559443c0bd0ae766989.png https://i.gyazo.com/f079c4d024d8d433c2e3dd5364e3d81a.png

Brother Entropy 23/03/2019 16:56

just wait till he see how much of a train wreck we are when he gets in

youre the only one catching fire lately and its childish

Wow wtf. He didn't respond to my inquiry but made an app?

why do we even have vouching system it should be like actual masonry where you have to file a petition to get into the lodge and that "No Mason should ever ask you to join our fraternity."

RED

17:16

Does that work?

were not following the ususal masonry code because were doing this on a minecraft server when the form would be public, so many newfags would be filling it in and it would be a huge bunch of paperwork to go through applications

thats not how i see it

17:19

but i could be wrong

17:19

17:20

i dont think the form would be public

we do the vouching thing to limit our newcomers to people that are established / considered worthy by at least one mason you vouched for prismary which is very reasonable, cyframe which idk about he seems fine but this not okay

but as an outsider them approaching a brother into the group

(im reading)

i was joking

17:21

all my vouches are people i want in the group

>people i want in the group

17:21

im

: so hard (edited)

yea why would i want to bring people i dont want in the group

17:22

the people i want i think would fit

17:22

doesnt mean its true

frank let it be lol

i wont even replay to that because i would insult u hard

plz dont hurt me

17:22

im too fragile

tbh the actual masonry way doesnt sound that unreasonable to do here

17:23

its not like people dont know what were doing and stand for on the server

can we have dinner before meetings too

yea im totally in for that

17:24

17:25

also we need to seriously get with the time and start charging dues

17:25

they even have visa and mastercard accepted

17:25

jk about the dues i have no idea how that shit works

pffhfhh

Lmao

2B1Ask1

bro i want a beatiful lapel pin wtf

17:30

im getting scammed by the spawnmasons

17:30

where's my pin?!

ay i like terminators reason for wanting to join

its well written lol

well ye writing is kinda his thing i guess

Brother Entropy 23/03/2019 17:39

There shouldn’t be a cap on vouches (edited)

18:43

There should be a cap on seeing one thing about a player and then determining that one thing as end all be all for their consideration. Having pvp videos at spawn does not disqualify someone for being in this discord. Why not wait until you actually get to know them?

18:45

Very toxic behavior. I believe UFO only invites people he considers would be a good fit, and for people to find one characteristic of these people and plug it nonstop is incredibly rude to the institution and well as UFO.

ye, sorry Ufo, was a bbit quick there

Nah, he is inviting people simply because he is friends with them and not for being a good fit with our community. Classic example is 2f4u, ufos friend and a very bad fit for us...

he also suggested Your petition will require the signature of several Masons. in http://www.spwaltrip.org/becoming-a-mason.html

Becoming a Mason

2F4U is a good player though. He’s done some cool things in the community.

Like what?

18:58

Herm are u serious?

Yes

18:59

Doesn’t he build hacked clients, queue skip, manages the museum, etc.

queue skip reserves 30 slots on the server for her (edited)

Yeah he scammed alot of people

or her clients (edited)

backdoored every single client

19:00

Museum is the biggest meme ever

Do you have proof of backdoors?

Not stable at all

ye museum is not stable perhaps

Wait a minute, we don’t need to discuss this really.

but there is nothing better

He’s not up for membership lol

true

They basicly ruined the idea of museum

id rather have an unstable museum than none lol

Me too tbh

19:01

The community is too dumb to know that having your IP exposed isn’t even bad

19:01

Wasn’t a huge deal but it was made into a HUGE scandal

its a pretty huge deal actually

enlighten us why

You can get a location. That’s about it

because u dont know that theres a .txt of every single museum member out there

thats a lot for some people lol

with all the ips and shit

Anyway, irrelevant for app committee discussion

19:04

Since this is beating a dead horse

so

19:07

my IP changes every 24 hours

19:07

I really could not care less

19:07

if you have a static ip, perhaps

19:08

and if that is an issue

19:08

get an unmigrated account, use that one

19:08

nobody will know it's you

asked cyframe

19:25

he said he mostly builds

19:26

"pvp is the only thing you can record yourself and show other people"

Brother Entropy 23/03/2019 19:43

my only experience of cyframe is him being a bit of a dramalord in emperium and him talking about seriously wanting to kill himself

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We either get rid of the Muslims or the Australians no inbetween

I got to know Hansocr well during the last incursion, he was one of the main people who helped me bomb out the trench. he built almost all of the 2k nether ring by him self. He has helped me work on a few of map arts We have built a few stashes together He is quite a good builder, he is at a few of Emperium bases and built some nice things. He helps with lots of the large projects. I either play 2b or other games with him every day. He is one of the few people I 100% trust on the server. Any other questions just ask

22:46

guys we got a bigot

Zippiewho?

Zippie

who is that guy

18:41

and who vouched?

just guest in voice lol

hmm

yike

emperium is invading

uhm wut

21:40

where

here

oh the discord

we'll start annexing shortly

ill annex the inside of your colon with my a gallon of my man yogurt

watch out for my ANAL FISSURES

no

is it bad if i've made a decision on one of the initiates without ever messaging him? Is that bad precedent to set for myself?

its bad if you dont interact with them at all

I'm preetty sure of what I think just from watching lmao

16:15

basically i think cyframe is a dumb motherfucker

i think youre a dumb motherfucker

16:16

doesnt stop me from loving uuuuuuuuuuuuu

16:16

idk how to feel

16:17

i mean look at his profile for fucks sake

16:17

i'm pretty sure it is digimon or something

16:18

ima message him with a fat, warm, welcoming, howdy to start

:^)

i watched his yt channel and made a decision

Doesn’t look like a terrible dude, he just isn’t right for the Masons

hes like trying too hard

tbh, I've been chatting and he's a nice fellow, idk if I'm stoked on a pvp fag in the spawnmasons but I'm willing to wager that he'd prolly be in high attendance to meetings (edited)

19:13

def young blood

19:13

not to hate on any 15 yr olds in particular around here

cries in henry

Brother Entropy 29/03/2019 19:53

thanks

kek

wtf I’m 17

Do we not vote on people anymore

well, there's still 5 initiates

one month period in between application and vote

23:59

im keeping track of the dates :p

how comes i was voted on afte 2 weeks than?

cause the spawn masons is corrupt

cause we made it a rule right after you got in

dielotai was chill in vc

00:48

i remember some drama tho?

I mean hanscor is a green name where’s his vote

we voted on hanscor

idk why you are not in comittee, but... in #applicant-council 18th march

00:56

you should just not be able to see that without committee so that's why you dont see that (edited)

Weird I’ve always been in the committee must have been silently removed

i mean... idk you should technically qualify to have it.

Silent coup

we actually did not revote on hanscor

05:01

which we should've

This

cum :3

fair point

@vc <---- what a big fucking meme

04:27

people with only one degree having that rank

calm down lol

@Brother Scribble i love u actually

ditto my dude

04:28

keep being you

the amount of time you've spent in the group does necessarily correlate with your ability to judge character and fit

Hes drunk

lmao

04:29

it fucking does

no, hear me out

terbin is the only person with just 1 degree on the council

time is a big factor

04:29

in everything

yes, but its not the only factor

04:29

and he is not the entirity of the council but just one of 11 members

i fucking fuck terbin

ah wat

but his too biased

how so

under pressure he breaks

If they are active and have good intentions for the group than what is the problem?

>active nad good intentions

04:32

killing the culture

we tried to find a balance between new and old, exclusive and inclusive mentalities

04:33

and this is not totally set in stone rn

hall & oates - out of touch

we haven't even formally announced it yet

Frankfurt you could be on the council if you actually helped the group out instead of complaining, be apart of the solution not the problem.

04:33

Simple fix

yeah i know

04:34

i told henry that i will leave and im planning to do that

wtf

my time has come

im ragin

*will come soon

Frankfurt I have a question (edited)

04:35

What is the reason that you are leaving

04:35

Don't cut corners

04:35

Problems can be fixed

im 100% for mike being worshipful tho

04:35

keep the culture alive

04:36

i really really liked the old masons

04:36

i dont like this new change

04:37

and i know that im wrong

04:37

change is inevitable

frankfurt

04:37

i liked the old masons too

04:37

i want to hear what we need to do to find a balance

04:37

swing the pendulum back towards how it used to be

i hate and love anarchy

04:38

i think we all do

04:38

thats why we love 2b2t

04:39

embracing the paradox

04:39

funny...

The concept of having more time in the group is a valid point; we can find a good mix but at the same time we can't make everyone happy

good standard is everything

Are you suggesting that we have a set in stone standards of rules and that we should stay consistent to? (edited)

dont know tbqh

04:44

trying to find a balance between this new influx of players

Understandable

welcome worshibful mike

06:33

praise le donger

06:37

hello, it is me, ideas man

06:37

i am of the applicunt committee

yeah and the council too

06:38

but that’s not happening quite yet

oh i meant council

06:38

what's not happening?

it’s not gone into effect yet

06:39

going to make an official write up thing I suppose

Voting Voting on initiates is done by the applicant council members after meeting the initiate. If voted successfully, the person will be initiated in-game at the next possible meeting. >80% is required for approved initiate. Spawnmasons will be given a position in the applicant council by worshipfuls by their own discretion. Nomination of another player for worshipful may be made by an existing Worshipful at a meeting, and requires 80% approval for promotion.

06:42

fixed nibba

06:43

you guys have sure added some superfluous stuff to the rules since last reading them

06:44

All we did was integrate entropys “addendum” message into the main body

06:47

“unless indicated otherwise” isn’t superfluous you just don’t like it lol

i'm writing out reasons

06:51

a. rule 4 can be folded into rule 1 'use common sense' b. leave the option open for people not to grief lodges and people will pick it more often. don't put this in the rules, make it a rate exception not to grief a lodge afterwards c. redundant with app committee changes 'To qualify for applicant committee, a one week waiting period is necessary following initiation.' d. superfluous sentence 'Worshipfuls will make a vouch for you if it’s remotely reasonable', completely useless information e. paragraph about how to resolve disputes between brothers. it's like you're explaining how an argument is resolved for someone who doesn't know what an argument is. it's well within common sense and should go without saying. also, it puts a negative inclination on the rules, i.e. makes newer people think this group must have problems and reminds older people of all the shit that happened

06:52

if you are gonna heed any of these, please do d and e

For part d it means that If people want someone to be nominated but they themselves aren’t worshipful we would do it for them

06:53

I agree it’s not totally needed

06:53

But yeah most of these are solid criticisms

cheers

06:55

can todarac change them since he's on desktop presumably?

I’ll edit them soon just remind me, I’m going to bed in a few

06:55

well he can’t edit my message

strooth

06:55

good luck

initiates: 24_terminator_80 DieloTai Cyframe Drollovitch Prismary

01:37

all have been in here for a while

discuss

01:45

??

01:47

@Brother Entropy

01:47

hop in lodge chat

24_terminator_80: Still trying to get to know the guy DieloTai: Was very hesitant about him at first, I came around to really liking the guy Cyframe: Not a good fit for the Masons; really genuine guy Drollovitch: Can be quite annoying in vc at times, I still want to get to know him better though Prismary: Have never talked to him in vc; from my experiences with him on the server, he is extremely nice and a very active player

i'm not ready to make an assessment on terminator

01:50

cyframe is a no for me, and i'm inclined to deny drollo and primary too, but i will give them a chance first

were supposed to be voting on prismary and dielo by next week (edited)

join lodge chat @entropyanndroid

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01:50

fuck

01:50

fucking stupid name

lol

@Brother Entropy

01:51

join lodge chat

01:51

"ok" reacts but doesn't do it

01:51

righto

k

thoughts on dielotai everyone?

Prismary really hasn't gone out of his way to show interest in the group

Heavy No for Drollo

So dielo has been active in voice, and he kind of grew on my with the video chats hes invested and i think he comes along with people Prismary is kind but indeed hasnt really been trying The other 3 are not to be voted on yet

dielo needs to be in the masons

02:05

prismary made no effort

02:05

drollo is still annoying

02:06

cy frame is eh

02:06

term also hasnt really made an effort (edited)

(term is in for only one week and was in voice once, but hes not gonna be the insanely active guy in voice, very nice guy tho) (edited)

drollo, prismary and cyframe look like 'no's. anyone disagree?

i agree with all the above

i for once agree with ain

drollo, prismary and cyframe look like 'no's. anyone disagree? seriously, anyone with thoughts on this needs to SPEAK UP NOW

I agree with these choices

who referred each of these btw? herm, giganox? and ?

ufo

Been in voice quite frequently lately. The only one that has been putting in effort is dielo imo. Idk if its just timezones but thats my view on it

yup

I have only ever have good interactions with Pris and Drollo. Might just need a little more time for them to be comfortable to say much in here. Cyframe i'm not sure about really.

as for Term, he is a good dude. he was a very early member of the +X highway dig, wrote "the wise words of T" along the way, based at dory, he built the angels over the step well. is busy in the real world so maybe not massively active in voice, but certainly one of the servers best map guys and is on 2b2t very frequently due to this. i'm sure if he was voted in he would be around more often, but we talk about people who are good mine crafters and would be good for the group, I think Term could be a good match if given a chance.

Term is the only guy worth having imo

what does terminator do irl to keep him busy?

10:51

he's still in school like the rest of us, right?

Dielo is defiantly a good fit for the group and is very active Prismary would be a yes from me if he was more active in the discord. Term would be a good addition to the group but has not made much effort to be active in the discord yet. (if you know him try and encourage him) Cyfame I do not feel he would be a good fit Drollo I need more time to get to know him

i know both pris and drollo as friends and had good interactions with Dielo. have never spoken to terminator and only a little bit with cyframe, so i cant really say anything ybout them.

Term said that he won't be active until 1.13 cause he has no other account or something. He should still be able to show up in voice tho, ill tell him that

I brought in lejerv. He’s the creator of baritone.

leijurv is based

He lives pretty close to me

leijurv is based

16:50

wtf

16:57

i wanna text my fellow brothers!!!

leijurv dont even play 2b2t

17:02

well

17:02

not a lot

He goes to Stanford. He’s probably busy between school and baritone.

17:24

Should I conduct an in-person interview?

he doesn't play on this server

you can invite him to the real masons instead :p

yaaaa

Henry text me

mayb

That would be TOO TOO weird

17:34

If another spawnmason was a part of my IRL lodge

lmao

That would be like next level insanity almost

17:34

Do you realize that

@brother noname come to autistralia im playin rn

okay I will

17:35

give me a few

17:37

@Brother Fruit

eewwwww

you're just jealous

yik

i cant wait to hagn out with henry and mike

I’m meeting lejurv today in person.

lmfaoooo

18:09

nice

@HermeticLock I am definitely 100% confirmed coming to san francisco on the weekend of June 15th

hmm

18:16

Might have to check my calendar

18:16

SpawnMason meetup

@Brother Todarac oooohhh yeahhhh!

19:43

Msg me the details

19:43

Just staying for the weekend?

19:43

When do you fly in? Etc.

ufo and I will come together

yea

i suggest we vote on cyframe prismary and dielo tomorrow and give term and drollo some more time so give your opinions about the former 3 if you havent done so yet also bring the san francisco thing to #spawnmason lol

Aye sir

“Can’t wait to hang with mike and henry”

23:52

cant wait to hang

Nick is coming along

and nick

You already did the damage

just kick cyframe if no one votes yes for the dude soon

00:20

pretty sure no one wants him

00:21

why go through the rigamaroo? just get it sorted right away please

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petition for ains name to be "Ain the Impatient"

i still think brony deserves another chance

00:49

besides the whole brony thing which he doesnt really take to 2b that much afaik hes such a generally nice guy, fun to vc with, likes to build and really just seems like he would fit in nice and attend lodges and be a good asset

00:50

also why are judgeholden and tomah guest

he seems very nice, if we're not letting people in here because they like weird shit we need to kick like half of the sms

this tbh

i think we should vote no on mediocre. not saying any of the current initiates necessarily are but we have a lot of brothers at the moment and only should be letting in people who could bring noteworthy improvements. There's people you vote a hard no on becuase they are immature, trying to inside, or want to be a LeGenDaRy SpAwN mAsOn. theres also people you vote yes on then there is the mediocre who we can say not now but maybe one day we can invite you back (edited)

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vote no on mediocre thank u brother breithan

also saying "you're not good enough, try again later" is a great way to get insiders and build resentment

fuck off

lmfao

That’s it

it is tho

thats true

01:33

more like "we are not looking for new members at this time"

ufo and I vouch for being

01:33

Brony*

01:33

Autocorrect on phone

"you're not good enough, try again later" is a great way to get insiders

01:34

emperium meme detected

01:34

did u get insided like that

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i vouch for brony too (edited)

we voted on mike like 3 times

01:35

it has been done

True news

^

>did u get insided like that

01:38

no it's just common sense

Honestly Brony really did grow on me

you'd know that if you didn't have aspergers

#spawnmason

>aspergers

01:41

troll comment

01:41

sounds like u got insided bro

brony grew on me too

01:42

hes

we have only been insided by inactive people who stopped playing the server lol

01:43

please explain how the group not liking someone creates insiders? other then the the person who vouched for them got salty and is retarded (edited)

01:44

the emperium has a lot of retarded people so it makes sence that u got insided

reread what I wrote you're still not getting it

sounds like u got insided

01:46

must suck to have a group full of retards but i guess thats what happens when u have low standards

01:46

BottleCapBrony is very active in general tbh

nice b8 m8

>bate

01:47

>actually the truth

01:47

0x

01:48

hes saying

01:48

although i think he's dumb

01:48

is that rejecting someone will make htem hate us

01:48

so if we approve them later they inside us

retard logic

01:49

and i know what he was saying

mike is in siding us (edited)

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I'm just saying it's bad form, either let someone in or don't, but don't sting them along forever

i think it's more of we require a high standard and you really gotta prove that

01:51

which can be done over time imo

well we would tell them no. but keep an open mind to them in the future. we dont have to tell them taht

if anything i think brony got closer to the rest of us by being a guest

BottleCapBrony is very reddit

funncubes is reddit

i agree

when are we gonna talk about kicking him

then why did we vote him in

Fit writes a message It's totally pointless and seems to be becoming a meme he does Hey fit, do you want me to speak for kicking you this coming saturday because you dont contribute anything to this group even for guest standards?

01:53

le xdddddddd

rofl

01:58

i mean whatever

who cares about the reddit

i mean, i do

02:25

i hate the state of the subreddit

06:12

meme

impatient ain: kick cyframe @Brother Todarac

06:29

give him the quick rundown "sorry we didn't feel like you fit in and we're almost full and have limited spaces for members" meme

Done

06:57

i didnt know we switched to the applicant council method

I like Brony, but he is just not active enough here to warrant another vote ä, I think

i think hes in voice all the time

Really?

and trying to get people to build and stuff

07:56

yea maybe its a timezone thing

Last 2 weeks I haven’t heard him

07:56

Ye

07:56

Probably

good work hermino

10:13

homo*

I think last time we denied him was bc ppl didnt like the idea of a bronie in here

10:40

But the dude is chill

10:41

And i think if he gets the chance will be active

I hear many good things about him ye

10:45

But dunno the guy. Heard him in vc perhaps 3 Times since I joined the masons

10:46

So I think if we decide to vote on him again, we should tell him, and ask him to be active for a week or so before we vote

Can agree with that tbh

@Брат Bird there was no voting done by the council before all the extensive discussion in here that transpired over the last 2 days

13:49

i postulate the council's process is to vote based on the consensus gained from talking to everyone here first plus personal judgements made about initiates

13:50

you aren't being cut out of the process

was the vote unanimous?

yes

see above screenshot

also nick if you dont type if here when we ask for your opinions you dont need to cry that you have no say in this

is the vote channel deleted??? (edited)

no - you cant see it - i wonder if people actually read what we announce

if u dont tag i dont get notified lol

do people actually server mute everything

Brony was on vacation for a couple weeks. That's why he hasnt been as active as before. He is back now.

i have almost ever server muted

14:19

i just unmuted this server today lol

14:20

https://i.futureclient.net/vUO1jbUQxHOm.mp4

14:20

few random servers

i generally mute channels not servers

14:24

dont like to do @ s it feels rude

i mute all servers that people talk in

14:24

i hate the red meme in the icon

14:25

but i just unmuted this server because i was starting to not read everything anymore

Ah nice @Brother Toilet (breithan) good to know

Okay I’ve gave my point on everything almost always, I’m also at work dick.

18:09

You’re cutting us out of the vote that’s the point of voting

18:09

Fuck that

bird you were literally fine with this system two years ago only then you were in it so you didnt care

Two years ago we created the committee that you had to ask for the role

18:12

Voluntary voting committee

18:12

This is a council of appointed voters

18:12

It’s courupt

18:12

Give us our vote back fascists

herm had it as a very small group on which he probably decided for a while

That’s not true

18:13

The committee before this was a voluntary role you had to be active for

18:13

This is just retarded

do you think we are making bad decisions?

I think right before this you were gone and “going inactive” and we’re wrongfully appointed because half this group hates you

^

And I also believe it’s wrong to strip us of our vote because you wanted action right away

^

lmao Ain isn’t the cause of this, he didn’t even post for it

I don't often agree with bird, but in this case I do (edited)

push^

But he’s appointed

18:20

So it’s obviously objective

18:20

And controlled

but has the council done a bad job yet?

That’s not the point

^ (again)

Muh principles

you find a way to complain about every change that happens now

Ain is one voice out of 9/10

even policemike getting worshipful, who everyone was for

I voted yes for mike dumbass

and yet

try looking on the bright side instead of making it your mission to seek out the worst things about everything

you found a way to complain about the policy that led to it

i would vote no on policemike

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18:22

the policy is good

18:23

members behind it not so much

I don’t get why we can’t keep our vote

and i would vote no just for one reason

it should be bird in app council instead of ain

he joined a few months ago

Dangerous thinking

or someone more active

i'll commit to doing the job cus henry asked me to

18:25

i said this to him the day after the meeting

18:25

i didn't expect to be promoted

for every Ain there is a Jordan, on the committee. We discusses for a long while the lineup that would best reflect the groups diverse opinions and wouldn’t give dominance to any one school of thought

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what do you mean by "for every Ain there is a Jordan"

^

Stupid idea only people on board are the people In it

idk guys

i support the policy and im not in

i would say maybe we should all vote on who is in the committee but that might cause chaos too

Nick I was against it at the meeting and I am still against the idea but I am willing to give it a go and see how it works out

>voting in the spawnmasons

I mean that you guys have different views on initiates

18:30

It was just an example of people that might not always agree on the details but both want to see the group prosper

thats true

Jordan has a good point, this new idea has not been tested yet expect for one initiate. If the new policy does not work than we can change it, this rule is not set in stone.

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Oh yeah Cyframe

^

scroll up a little, we started discussion in here first to see everyone's opinions who have something to say

18:34

18:35

then, after there was seemingly some consensus and we had heard people out, the vote came next

18:35

see the timestamps

prismary told me he is still interested in the Masons, but real life is mor important at the moment

it's a meme system but votes in the spawnmasons honestly cause so much chaos and indecision leading to stagnation that this is worth trying

I think votes have been useful to identify tansions, so it was possible to talk about it.

Alternatively I think votes were not very useful because people often did not say why they voted how they did

19:27

We had to coax it out of them

19:27

Now we are just asking for any and all feedback and opinions

when people are forced to give their opinion in here since they can't vote i think the reasons are gonna matter way more its gonna be very clear why people would have voted yes or no while if its just a vote for all then people often vote and dont talk

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if people dont want to do the effort to state their opinion in words here, then their stance wont be taken into account and if this whole thing doesnt work out we can go back to the old system

I’ve just been slightly busy so I haven’t been able to pour through all the conversation about these things like I used to so this is obviously a late response to the fact our votes are taken away

23:56

Voting weather they’re confrontational or not have always been a part of the group

23:56

Voting to get in trusted, voting for worshipfuls, voting to get in the group

23:57

And to narrow down the entrance process to a group of people who are supposed to represent our opinions non-biased is confrontational in itself because we don’t know how the deliberation works or how our opinion is being used

23:58

The solution to all this is a return of the application committee with a required 3rd degree rank + be an Active spawnmason

23:59

Cuts out the clutter and creates a representative vote of the people who are actually going to be conversing with the people

23:59

But this team of appointed people who have to represent our opinion other than us giving our actual opinion is a some middleman bull shit

If there’s a good reason for someone to not be in just say so and we won’t let them in.

Nick has a valid point

I could have sworn we did a vote during the last lodge on on the council thing and it did not pass (edited)

They're pros and cons regarding both sytem (edited)

Less arguing with a council maybe. But if the council makes a descion the majority doesn't like it won't be pretty.

Why would the council make a decision the majority wouldn’t approve of

read: they wouldn't (edited)

im voting against what henry votes for (edited)

Why would the electoral college elect someone the country doesn’t want

If the council only makes decisions base on what the majority want then whats the point? It would just be like us voting and then you approving the initiate which is exactly like it was before.

the point (afaik) is that not everyone in here will spend the time to get to know initiates, and then vote on them anyways.

01:15

For example, to single out Nick (love you bb), its pretty likely that he will not spend the hours it takes to get to know the newest members, but he still had the ability to vote on them anyways

01:16

Nick actually posted the PERFECT solution to this problem, here: https://i.imgur.com/fHtFuok.png

01:17

^ that, in essence, is what the council is. Its a small group of active masons, cuts out the clutter, and is a representative vote of people who are actually talking to these new members (edited)

01:18

the only difference is its a group selected by worshipfuls of the most obviously active people

previous system: 3 people could have a very good reason to vote no and it could still pass, while 4 people could have a stupid reason to vote no and the person would get denied now we force discussion and peoples reasoning can be weighed according to how serious it is if several people have good reasons against; i expect a unanimous No by the council if the group seems to come along with the initiate but there are 2 who dont like him just because he has brony in his name (hypothetical), i expect unanimous Yes Also there are a lot of really active people that did not get the council rank, im sure we can rotate this as time goes on

“Obviously active people”

02:26

Ain was taking a self declared long break before this

02:27

The perfect solution involves every active willing 3rd degree mason to get a vote not have it cut in thirds by a council

02:31

Also the council includes 4 worshipful

Also worshipful votes count for 3

02:43

And nicks opinions always turn into whatever the worshipfuls think. (edited)

02:43

And then Henry takes what the worshipfuls think

02:44

And uses his +40 vote

02:44

To make the final decision

02:44

And....

02:44

Even if that were true

02:44

If Henry ever abused his final vote

02:45

To do something against the majority will of the group

02:45

He would be kicked out from the position right away OR (edited)

02:45

the group would turn into chaos (edited)

02:45

Nobody is taking away your vote nick.

02:45

If you don’t want someone in, all you have to do is write down a reason

02:46

And then we won’t let them in.

We’ve always been promised our 1:1 vote

03:34

That’s my issue

03:34

Direct voting

03:34

No surrogate council of dweebs

there is no discussion chat for the council btw nick, only the voting channel

05:15

all discussion will be open to see

^^^'

05:15

everything we've ever said to eachother about the initiates is right here

all i'm saying is you aren't as locked out of the process as you think

If I don’t get a vote I’m locked out plain and simple

05:32

I’m not relying on people like you who have a history of being complete tumors to convey my opinion with bias

This is the last thing I’ll say on the matter, but if you think that the council is made up of “complete tumors” maybe this isn’t the group for you because it’s full of the most passionate, vocal, and driven people we could find. You have a problem with one, fine, good thing there’s 8 more. Moving on now.

Mainly talking about Ain being the complete tumor I’m sure multiple people can back me up on that

05:46

As for everyone else I have no problem just want my vote back

05:46

Ty

05:46

Way to pick and choose to tarnish my view for something that’s not there

05:49

And don’t play that guilt speech, your actions don’t show compassion for 60% of this group you’re appealing to the elite and the future it’s the other members you’re isolating by forcefully implementing this council meme

05:50

We rejected people for legit reasons, people that you liked, your cronies kept not getting in so you fucked with the system to get your way bypassing our voice

active mason must mean you play 2b regularly

07:24

In general

07:27

With all this discussing everything to death, it makes us unable to act and smell like a hippie commune. Discuss to death until consensus, if no consensus, discuss again - repeat

can we begin discussion of the 2 other initiates that have been around for a long time, prismary and drollovitch?

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07:54

we should decide on them by next week

I believe that Prismary seems to be more interested in Reddit than the masons at the momet :)

08:02

moment

08:03

he also was in VC yesterday where somebody told him that he isnt really active enough

08:03

he said he know

08:03

knows

08:04

Drollo has been active in VC here and in Respect club quite a lot, I like the guy

Really depends on our standards

true

Hell no for drollo like previously stated

yes for drollo?

mostly leaning towards a no for both of them too, but i'm going to give them a chance and talk to them a bit first

you know drollo but even tho pris isnt too active hes worth getting to know

12:10

cause he usually is active

12:10

just got shit going on irl at the moment

We keep lowering our standards to join now we don’t really have a say who gets in or not I’m not sure I can stay here

12:16

Will deliberate over the weekend this is just not how I envisioned things

who have we let in thats lower then our standards

Every time that I bring up the fact we lost our voting power you guys just throw the lack of results and that it’s a new program in my face when in reality it’s stripping the majority of our rights to vote on members

i get that

I don’t give a shit if it’s un-tested or if it’s new or any other scapegoat way of explaining it, we can’t vote

12:21

And that’s not okay with me

why does everyone need to vote?

12:21

when most dont participate

Every active member should have a vote

12:21

Proven active member who is there for meetings and plays in game

i think if thats the case active memebers should have a way of being chosen by other active memebers

Should have a vote

or some shit

12:21

well

12:22

at least we're on the same page

The worshipfuls can appoint the active members to the committee all they want but to limit it and say that the others don’t get a vote is silly

12:23

Till this changes I’m outtie 5000

you wouldnt be on the active committee though

I talk nearly every day

12:23

I’m at meetings

12:23

I’ve been getting back in game

12:24

Check

you have been to the last few, but you hadn't been to meeting in games for like a month or more before that, and while you type in the discord , so does torogadude, people are in voicechat all the time talking , i get if you have irl shit going on and you cant be active, we shouldnt force people to be active by pressuring them taking their role away

12:26

but as an active player i wouldnt say that youre as active as the rest of us (edited)

12:27

come to autistralia :^)

And we’re going to hold this same criticism for Ain who’s in the council

12:47

And everyone else should get the same scrutinization

12:47

Ain was self declared gone and inactive till now, where’s that same flame for him

12:48

Group mentality has already taken over

i agree

12:50

that he has been inactive

12:50

henry is the one who put him in

12:50

entropy chose everyone else

12:50

so

2 days ago multiple people said they need more time to decide on drollo so im gonna give that time

idk about drollo

I feel like enough people don’t want drollo that we don’t need more time

yes, but we should be fair to those who do

17:43

or are unsure

I’d like to focus more on those that don’t want him in than those who are unsure

17:48

I think they presented valid enough reasons.

17:49

At this time drollo doesn’t seem like a good fit.

the "want to hang out with the cool guys" part made me not convinced he would be any different (edited)

ye

I think we should vote no matter what, we should not wait to get a vote we want

18:07

and we should write him a nice message if he doesnt pass, like Herm did last time

I’m still not sure on everyone’s thoughts on prismary. Is there anyone that’s against him being admitted?

Prismary is great but I don't think he has been active on 2b or discord much for months and isn't now.

I think the better question is is there anyone that’s for him being admitted

When he is active again then yes I'd vote yes

he was online today and in voice

18:12

Prismary is cool

Better question to me is if anyone doesn’t want them in and the reasons why.

we were going to golden plains until i got disconnected, he told me golden plains is a mason base? what did he mean by this?

I care more about No’s than Yes’s

what is golden plains

The valley of wheat thing

i haven't heard of it

It’s near autistralia

18:14

Idk who decides who gets the rank tbh

18:14

It’s fun cubes project

18:15

huh didn't know you could show channels for individual people without giving ranks

Yup

18:23

Funncubes has total control over that channel

18:23

He is the one adding people

18:23

Anyway Herm Prismary just seems too inactive

18:24

And about no’s versus yes’s, both are equally important

yeah i decide who sees this channel. so you were going there with prismary, @broder lampa ?

yes

If someone legitimately vouched for someone then there needs to be a discussion between the voucher and the ones voting no

20:11

Not going to lie I’m going to be very butthurt if anyone doesn’t want leijurv

well leijurv bribed a bunch of Masons with loads of reddit platinum already so you might not have to worry about that

He did it for the meme

leijurv does not even play on the server

^

20:34

herm, enjoy being butthurt because there will be no point to bringing someone into the masons who will never come to meetings or bases

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leijurv is a valuable assest

sure, but not for the masons

20:44

as a guest though yeah i can see it

leijurv is somebody I would vouch for

20:48

I have spoken to him in vc for a while

20:49

his drive, enthusiasm and general attitude

20:49

makes me think he is a good addition

20:49

At the moment I would vote no for prismary and drollo

20:49

I think Drollo might perhaps be a fit later on but I am not sure

leijurv already said to me he probably won’t do the application anyways (edited)

20:56

drollo was not a fit 2 years ago not very surprising

But he joined right? and got removed for immaturity or something

removed because we did not really like him

ok

i don’t think we have to do a vote when the outcome is predictable like herm says it is for drollo @brother terbin

00:05

a waste of time

00:05

just act

00:06

seems i’m out of the council now anyway

00:07

still, don’t be impractical just for the sake of due process

Ah that way

06:49

Ye I misunderstood

06:49

I agree

name a country where everything is voted on by the entire population. Go.

the vatican

hmmmmmm

16:25

still counts

16:26

wait, isn't every australian vote compulsory?

16:26

australia

no man. we vote on who we want to vote on votes

are they forced to vote too though?

i think you can always abstain but not sure

that's a vote not to vote

yeah

16:31

we are told you have to enrol or you will be fined for not voting. if you never enroled you dont have to vote. you "may" be fined.

if you never enrolled, they can't find you

16:32

my mate never enrolled

but the general public doesn't vote on most things. that's why we elect politicians.

16:32

like everywhere else

this sounds like a good system for voting

we should call it ~~Representative Democracy~~ a republic. Call it a grand experiment and go about telling everyone ours is the greatest nation in the world. (edited)

the spawnmason ~~republic~~ democracy (edited)

20:13

@Brother Fruit

such tea

give me my

egan role back

ok

21:32

can we still change our minds

Can we have an Antifa rank (edited)

Alerta

Final thoughts on prismary and drollo before we vote? prismary doesnt seem too invested but maybe im just not in voice at the right times drollo means well but i feel like too much people dont like him

12:58

if your opinions havent changed (several are 3 scrolls above here) then you dont need to state them again

I feel like I shouldnt chip in as Im the newest member but I know the both of them for some time and just wanted to say that they are both chill guys that never gave me a reason not to trust them but I cant really speak to their current/planned levels of activity in regards to 2b, masons and discord itself

Wack and wack

15:26

opinions from everyone are always welcome

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too much reddit for my taste

yup

I haven't seen much of Prismary, either. I'd like to be able to form an informed opinion of them and what I've seen and heard of him I like. Haven't seen enough to vouch for him, however. As far as Drollo, his conduct at the Golden Plains seems on par. However, some have suggested he has a bit of sordid history which would have to be reviewed, particularly his reconciliation with masons in particular he may have previously hurt.

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as much as my interactions with both have led me to think they are chill people, most people seen to be saying no and i cant really talk for in game activity for either one, though i think pris may be doing things, but i wouldn't have a clue as to what. If its about group activity in here and in game activity on 2b combined i cant see another way but a no vote. unless someone has a good reason to think yes is a better choice. just trying to be transparent.

2

I'm friends with both of them, so my opinion is biased. I know Drollo is really interested in joining the masons again and I hope he grew out of his annoying behavior since he got kicked.

^i'm in the exact same situation.

1

if he doesnt pass now, I will certainly not go against voting again in a few months

I think the only reason Prismary wont pass is he is not active enough at the moment.

Prismary doesn’t really “wow” me but maybe that’s because I haven’t heard much from him

02:56

I am generally biased against heavy users of the subreddit tho :P

Prismary was a part of the groups that made the Halloween and Christmas party bases and he's a very cool guy but hasn't been active on 2b or discord at all for months.

04:20

I'd love for him to join when ever he starts actively playing again

So right now I would be a no vote on the idea they will be voted on again. Does anyone disagree with this?

agree with you

yo im reading general. wtf happened today?

from what I can tell, the worshipful rank became a pure vanity rank with no real permissions and was given to a bunch of people including guest Fit, another vanity rank for sunwukon and a bunch of memes

06:54

I dont want to be a wet blanket but this is retarded

06:55

memeing is fine but messing around with ranks like this triggers me and confuses everyone not to mention herm did this meme two week ago already with the green names

yeah. more of the same typical bs.

06:55

hey man

06:55

maybe now they will shut the fuck up about "give me power and I will fix things!"

06:55

anyway congrats losers. see you on the other side.

oh hey and if I'm not getting kicked could I please be taken off the council. Much appreciated. (edited)

07:05

we got it babba

07:07

its another rank, thats clear

07:08

doesnt change anything about the fact that its retarded to the half of this discord who were asleep and had to go through 300+ msgs in general to try and find out just how much of a meme it was

whats going on. is it a meme?

yeah

of course it is

waste of everyones time except a few circlejerkers

topic for next meeting definitely

rages about not having power for months gets power kicks inactive people that will fix things!

who are you referring to

meetings are pointless. this whole thing is a waste of our time. i think we are just being trolled here

07:10

oh fuck

07:10

dude you can talk?

07:11

mind = blown

yes!

shit man

07:11

so whats up? (edited)

07:11

you good?

07:11

how are the kids?

07:11

family?

07:11

whats doing down?

i just got a pink name

07:12

my life is complete

ha

07:12

ghey

07:12

nah but well done

07:12

its the little things i guess

ahahahahaha No

07:29

No fixing of anything.

bunch of retards escaped the tard cage and let loose on the discord

09:23

@HermeticLock thanks to this, everyone in here will take the spawnmasons that little bit less seriously from now on, knowing people like you are in charge

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09:27

you go almost completely inactive then suddenly decide to use your elected powers of worshipful for something and you do this? demote yourself

Not even inactive

09:48

Also these little things amuse me

09:48

Will not apologize. This is a block game

09:49

I love you all

i'm not asking for an apology. demote yourself.

Thanks for having fun with me every now and then

you've basically thrown a tantrum and covered the discord in shit which someone will have to clean up later

A tantrum?

look at the other things people have said in this channel. a lot of people disapprove.

The cleanup takes not even five minutes

do it now then

You’re no fun

09:52

There

09:53

All done

rofl

09:53

he actually thought he was serious

This is literally a good part of the masons

09:54

Do you actually take this thing that seriouslyV

09:54

Ranks mean nothing

09:54

What matters is our fraternal bond

i didn't think this was serious, i thought it was retarded

09:55

it was obvious the ranks had no perms

09:55

you're still a retard though

That’s why I took you off the list

09:55

Kidding bud.

09:55

❤

this merely provided another reason for me to take the spawnmasons that much less seriously, and i'm sure i'm not the only one.

Oh no.

09:57

Do the SMS have to be serious 100% of the time

09:57

Are we allowed to be light hearted now and then?

no, but also yes

Look, there’s not a huge difference between worshipful and normal members

09:58

Largely we meet on the level

Im sorry herm but all of your arguments fall flat af

This whole rank thing is just fun (edited)

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, but the issue arrises when other people have a problem with it

Everyone in this group could be worshipful with actual admin privileges

theres a difference between lighthearted and memeing and then messing up the whole structure just bcs you were bored and making me and others go through tons of messages to find out whats really going on

10:00

I already had an unstable and bored leader like this in highland and have no interest seeing this discord deleted one day on whim or something similar

This discord isn’t going to get deleted

10:01

Look, it was just a silly thing

10:01

If you don’t like it then pm me

10:01

Or whatever

10:01

My full responsibility

10:01

I was amused by it.

10:02

I will step down from worshipful if you all really think this is worth that

10:02

But I’m just trying to be lighthearted

10:02

We don’t need to be so serious (edited)

10:02

I don’t care if you joined us now or 3 years ago

10:02

You’re all equal to me

10:02

And I value all of your opinions

10:03

Goodnight

Well that doesnt sound dismissive at all now, does it?

10:04

Im nit saying you should step down bcs of this, nor that you're the most horrible person ever all of a sudden

10:05

I just think theres enough room to joke and meme without messing with ranks and channels and whatnot

Sure. I can agree with that

10:06

But do you find any good brotherly humor in making toro worshipful? Even if it’s a fake worshipful?

I dont like waking up to having to play detective first thing in the morning, the color change you made recently was fun this was retarded and I stand by that opinion

Okay. I understand that

10:06

That’s a fair criticism

sounds like you have ptsd from living under a tyrannical ruler

That is definitely a factor in this sadly, yes

10:08

I can still remember that faithful day

I love you anyways

I woke up and the hl discord was gone

10:09

And then a new one appeared with fluff as owner

10:09

All went downhill from there as most of us know

10:11

So henry memeing abot giving ownership over + the ranks changing gave me a proper flashback and a significant tigtening of my asshole for a minute before I got through all the messages lel

I get it Diego

10:12

Auto correct sucks

Hola

10:12

De donde esta la bibliotheka?

But anyways, the difference is that we are all spawnmasons no matter what

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10:13

Even if that occurs, Someone will get things going back to the way they are

10:13

We joke in here that you’re free to leave the SM’s whenever you want

10:13

But you can’t ever go forever

10:14

Because the SMS are a community more than anything else

10:14

And together we make each other better people.

I appreciate you saying that

10:14

Unironically

And I’m so privileged to have you all in here. I really support all of you

Lotus just btfo'd us saying we were just strangers on the intrnet

And if any of you ever need anything, be it in game or IRL, please just message me

10:15

I care about everyone in here

10:16

That’s why I feel safe to mess around every now and then.

I cant tell you how much Im glad you declined his attempt to join the mason two years ago, I still remember that dm screenshot someone send me lel

Glad to have you field

10:17

DieloI

10:17

Man Auto correct hates@me

Dielol lol

Anyways I need to sleep

Thats a new one

I have to get up early

Nite nite brother herm

Goodnight dielo. Sorry for the bad first impression your first week.

Not sure if it was just missed or ignored but can someone remove me from council. Thanks.

11:25

@deleted-role

not for a no vote to plan to later vote again but if people still care about the person in several months, and theres less absolute no-voters by then, someone may vouch again in this case that would not be very soon

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18:06

they are returned to guest

Heil

for the love off all that is good don't let satisfaction in

^

Thank allmighty sky daddy

10:27

Crisis averted

terminator doesnt join voice very often but the few times he does, hes really cool dedicated to his maps, seems to care about getting in not everyone needs to be super active

I like term a lot

23:06

Good person just to have in our community of people here

Brother Entropy 12/04/2019 23:22

i just pulled this from far up this chat

23:23

i like bottle too tbh him being a brony is not really an argument

what can he contribute as a mason that he cannot as a guest tho

pony porn in #spawnmason

i like term

00:24

why are we voting again for brony rofl

00:26

also guest role should be for guests and not for rejected initiates..

lmao

>what can he contribute as a mason that he cannot as a guest tho

00:32

same could be said for you @Brother Fruit

it can be said for a lot of people we get people in the group if we can enjoy them being in the group this is not a factory or a place where everyone has to provide a quota

^

00:33

he will build and vc with us hes already made a video for the cooking channel

mediocrity will be the death of us

00:47

stop trying to get people in just because ur bored

whatever

he can contribute his time and effort at bases and on projects, he's nice to talk to and friendly I don't know why we wouldn't want him in

anyone can slave away

01:12

I’m not saying I have a problem with terminator but guys, you do not need to fill this group with every one of your friends

we're talking about brony retard

01:13

who wasnt my friend until he was in here

hascor was approved, whats the difference in those two in terms of capability? We should be consistent so we can avoid all the debate

01:17

maybe we need a check list, " you must have this much clout to join the spawnmasons"

That is false emperor

01:18

We let you in right?

;0

On a real note what do you look for in a initiate @deleted ?

^

Emperor is the retard that conversation was not about brony lol

01:23

oh heck well my original comment that sparked this was meant to be about terminator

01:23

but both apply

01:23

I’ll tell you what I’m looking for and what Frankfurt likely is too: a mentality

A mentality

01:23

lmfao

01:23

what

the culture of the masons has radically shifted from how it used to be

01:23

let me finish

01:24

new people should stand out and remind us of how things used to be, where the masons was a group of extremely diverse and unique people who came together despite their differences to have a good time

01:26

as we’ve gone on, unique personalities have left and the concern on the “old folks” mind is mediocrity, unexceptionality, etc.

01:27

so he’s looking for people who will really liven things up, not another clone

01:28

an example of a new brother who really exemplifies the goal is terbin

01:28

And yeah, people like that aren’t so common

01:28

there isn’t any need to keep initiating new people every week: the group will get bloated

01:29

Hopefully you can understand where I’m/we’re coming from

this is more convoluted way of saying it than what the disagreement between you guys really is: this is a difference in ambition

01:30

some people want the group to be friends, plain and simple; others want the group to be friends who are also capable of doing exceptional things, as that was a big part of why the spawnmasons were so popular in the past, as well as fit

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nice and concise

01:31

yeah, this place shouldn’t be, imo, a place for everyone in your circles to come and chat

01:31

It’s why the endless stream of guests is ridiculous imo

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I still believe the common factor in this group is intelligence, but even smart people can be jerks.

i think you glorify the people we let in during the old days back then it was enough to be a good builder, a well known person or to be a nice guy to talk to it was pure friend politics it just resulted in being such a diverse group

10:28

situation does change when the group gets bigger and yes we should not let it get bloated but if a lot of people like and trust a person that may contribute ingame, then i dont think we need to require more

I value regular voice activity a lot; while a lot of older people seem not to; which is probably why i will assess more weight to a person being an interesting guy in voice. Many may not, and thats okay, but im obviously gonna put in a good word for them then

agree with henry 100%

ye

12:05

I thought we agreed last meeting that we could use "Respect Club" for friends (edited)

I respect that idea

we only let in people who passed the test of talking in voice chat back in the day too, entropy, but it incidentally made the group into the powerhouse that did really cool stuff on the server and made the masons a household name

17:08

that recruitment programme doesn’t result in the group being great, it could go either way

17:09

that’s why people want to be more selective of who we let in, so we are recruiting more elite people and stacking the odds of making the group a formidable one

17:12

though, in my opinion, no one in the whole masons right now has the commitment to see this through. it’s just wishes and talk, hardly any action.

I think Australia is a very very good start

18:30

things internally have to settle

18:30

organic growth perhaps :)

don't shoot for the back fence, shoot for the moon

❤

@everyone henry is gone!

The vote for BottleCapBrony has gone up, please feel free to voice your opinions

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i don’t hold a favorable opinion of him

I like the guy hes done effort looks like he really fits in to the slightly toxic 2b environment he is trusted by boomerang and probably more he blew up the incursion discord

I thought that was bram^

1

i talked to brony once in vc... cant really say much for/against him

I spoke to him a few times last week. He seems really creative and I like his attitude. I believe he would be a great fit

hes in voice now if anyone cares

5 mins

i vote no

BottleCapBrony passes

Brony seems to have changed quickly after he got approved

Well as far as I know

09:21

back in the days when he first was an initiate, he was quite active in voice. Then he got disheartened at the 2. vote. This time he was told, hey dude you got to be active

09:22

I really think it will be great to have him in the group

What do you mean @Brother Giganox ?

i would vote no on brony aswell

11:48

again we are letting people in just because they talk in voice lmao

I disagree, we have been speaking about builds and gotten input from people who built with him

12:29

Though I think we should dial down initiations soon and try to get the group stable.

12:30

And if he is being a dick or does not do anything, we can always say bye.

terbin understands the story of ghosteam

I think we should stop invitations now

16:18

maybe initiate the initiates if the vote passe

16:18

s

16:18

but no new ppl

16:19

like many ppl said. at some point the group gets too big

16:19

and hard to handle

the more people there are the bigger is the likelyhood of drama

indeed

16:21

and there is already plenty drama

16:22

lots of rusled jimmies

I agree with you, though I think that we should vote on the current initiates

^

Let’s try to find a good balance and not stir new shit by inviting more. In my opinion it’s the worshipfuls who have to keep the group motivated- have projects up their sleeves for when current projects die down or get crowded. I know that we got one Worshipful who is working on something like that. I will also try to bake some ideas. Have had some nice input from others in 1-1 chats

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The council has let in its first member that prolly wouldn’t pass outside of it

18:19

Don’t make me say I told you so when this becomes a trend

reasons no: ain and frankfurt dont think hes special enough / just a mediocre player babbaj: because ? everyone else that responded likes him / is neutral last vote months ago was 72%

anyway now that henry is gone the council should have new representatives

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I agree

18:46

@Brother Entropy didn't say that

18:46

i didn't give a reason

18:49

i don't think he will be a good addition, but it's not my place anymore to be involved in this, so i'm merely voicing my opinion of him

18:49

just do as you please

I feel like we should stop recruitment now, vote on current applicants but not accept new ones. Find interesting projects, beside Australia. There seems to be a distrust to having bases for everyone so I believe starting smaller independent projects, where the project creators decide who do invite, with no bad feelings, if you don't get invited could be an idea. Would love feedback on that one. Anyway, if we stop recruitment, the applicant council can't be a source for discord since there won't be any applicants

18:53

if we decide to keep applications open, which I am against, we should definitely revisit the application council memberships

the choice is yours chief

18:54

i'm wit it

18:54

on jah

I believe it is more than that, but thanks for the vote of confidence ❤

I think we should slow down on applicants. We don't have a shortage of quality existing members. That being said, if someone comes along who's too cool to ignore, we can talk about it.

i said a week or two ago. to vote no on letting in mediocre people.

yeah

Cool so let’s get it done

leijurv has no intentions of playing on the server and would rather just hang around so i guess we return to guest

That's sad :(

wouldn't the Respect discord be the place for leijurv even if he has no interest in 2b? Who know leijurv?

I agree with you giganox

I think we should fully halt invitation of new ppl for the time being

100% agreed!

Base is going pretty smooth so far

16:39

I think the rustled jimmies need time to settle

I agree, and start other small projects. I believe that we have come to a group size where we don't need to recruit actively

16:44

Let's officialize that this weekend (edited)

On the Respect Club note, is anybody here who would like to join but isn't there yet?

18:08

after I asked him about his interest in 2b

18:08

and joining masons

18:11

I think guest rank is perfect for now. Anybody who disagrees and thinks he should leave the discord and go to respect club only? I think that he is a very bright mind, and super friendly, it would be advantageous for us to keep him in this discord. Even though he does not have the same 2b history as xcc2 or fit.

Please keep lejurv in here

18:26

He adds value to this discord with his presence

yes

18:26

with his reddit coins :^)

hahaha

18:27

but that means we can be bought?

lol nah, he's a cool dude

18:28

no matter the coins lol

I read it as ironic :)

18:28

yea nice

good

Lol he has another reddit internship so he will have more at the end of summer.

why should he have to go to respect club

18:57

lol

I think he shouldn't at all

18:58

I was just making sure that if there were sisters or brothers who felt that this should happen

18:58

they should not be afraid to say it

18:58

nobody said it = wonderful

Sent him our appreciations

leijurv for approved guest

yus

@here Anyone want to jump into a VC with me and Terminator in about a half hour?

Yeah I'll get on once I get home from class

ill be here

@here yo. Get in VC

this guy is not gonna be the most active person around but hes so good at what he does and feels like a great addition

Thinks shorts are pants.

It's pretty great to see him here.

Small penis

5 is generous. Kindergarteners are devious and have boundless energy.

Exactly.

00:54

I like him. He's taking it sooo seriously.

00:55

He looked it up. lol

Does pineapple go on pizza?

Easy. Yes

00:58

I like this guy a lot.

Agreed.

What we learned from Terminator: 4/22/19 -18yo form N. California -He's a mad lad when it comes to map art. We already knew that but he gave us a detailed rundown of his techniques and achievements. -Junefag.

His IRL friends respect his block game maps

Still into his ex.

thinks shorts are pants. Not into short shorts.

-Kind to elephants, but would ride one if it were legal. -Doesn't drive (never learned, long story) -Would fuck a human-turned-chimpanzee but is worried about the legality. -Wants a horse sized dog named Clifford -We need nuclear fusion to solve all our problems. (or time travel. lol) -His family thinks he does drugs. -Thinks he could fight 10-20 five year olds by kicking them in the face. -Knows martial arts. -Hot dogs are NOT sandwiches. He looked it up. -He kissed his childhood best friend by accident then kept is a secret. -Invites strangers into his van. (doesn't follow through) (edited)

ask him if he is a communist

he is a liberal and not a communist

Good nuance and empathy in political views. Good praxis in excellent and community-minded artistic work.

libtard

He’s in N California???

02:34

HermeticLock meets terminator to conduct an in person interview??????

02:34

???????????????????????

02:34

Receive the wise words of T straight from the source????

did i hear initiate term and leijurv into the real masons at the same time???

05:58

yes

05:59

perfect

satisfaction just showed up

07:42

says he wants to take a cinematic

at the plains?

07:46

or what do you mean?

07:47

anyways... gtg... uni

ye, where? plains? autistralia? spawn?

@SpawnMason Terminator has now been in our discord for a while and we should be ready to vote on him. I personally lean to voting yes. What are your opinions?

Like term has said himself, he won't be active at meetings until after 1.13 (unless he has changed his mind), but yes he's a cool dude, known him since early 2017 and kept the chunk dupe secret together with him and a couple others since august 2017

After talking to him yesterday, I think he'd be a great addition to the group. He's a very talented player and a cool guy to talk to. I don't know how active he'll be, but he spends a lot if hours in the game, so I'll bet he'll be around quite a bit.

Ye I feel the same

16:05

Anyone who thinks we should not invite him?

I think we should

16:06

he is nice

agreed

16:30

going to start the vote for @vc for 24_terminator_80. If anyone has some more opinions, feel free to share them here

Term is a great guy, he won’t be active and isn’t going to do much. Not interested in just filling a spot that doesn’t need to be filled.

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I feel that he would be a good addition to the group. I don't care that much about his political position. A good mix of them would be good for the group. It could possibly bring up healthy debate.

So I think we should think long term Mike, and he might not be active now in the Masons, and perhaps not even in 1.13 in the beginning because he might have things lined up for that, similarly to other masons who have their own build groups they work with. Still in the long term, if we are able to provide interesting projects we might get these guys. And since new projects are invite only, there is no security risk. Regardless, people trust Term and he has proven himself worthy of trust to them as we can see in earlier messages.

16:40

Definite yes from me

16:41

but I get your point Mike and I think it is valid

I’m going to meet him in person.

If he is not going to be active now we should vote no and then have another vote when he thinks he will be more active. He would be a good addition but the is no point in him being in here untill he is an active member.

I disagree. Better to get him in when we can. It’s quite likely he will still attend meetings I reckon

16:51

And if that’s the case can’t we keep him as approved but not actually initiate him until he’s ready?

16:51

We used to have people that were approved initiates for months haha

16:51

Just meant we all liked them

It's hard to know how active someone will be when they haven't been a part of the group before. I didn't think I would be very active before I joined the group because I didn't know whether I'd fit in or not.

They just couldn’t be that active yet

16:52

Likewise we really thought Jay would be active. Then that really sunk ship

Lol Jay

We have more than enough members to show up to meetings in voice every other Saturday, my vote will be based upon the quality of the member. As Henry would say, “This is a Minecraft group, we play Minecraft.”

16:53

I personally have nothing against Term, I would really like him in the group.

Terminator is a really quality Minecrafter. He's made a significant impact on the server and he puts in a lot of time. Plus, he's chill to talk to. I see no reason not to give him a chance.

He himself said he would not be able to attend meetings untill 1.13

thats because hes a bit stuck with the epearl thing and is afraid to leave the place he could get another alt lol

We just had discussion last meeting about how we are letting in too many members and now you want to let a guy in that you know for a fact he won’t show up to meeting. But because he is cool, we should let him in? (edited)

The changes we made will prevent us from having 5 initiates at a time just because someone was generous And letting people in because they are cool, with the assumption that they actually play on 2b, without knowing how active they would be regarding meetings, has kind of always been a thing

17:25

Of course its better if they regularly come to meetings, but a lot of people clearly think his other qualities balance that out

17:25

Anyways i messaged him about ingame activity and im awaiting his answer

I think coming to the meetings is not all we should value. We have people like Emperor who comes to the meetings but is busy running Emperium during the week. We have other brothers who don't really play with us at the moment but are considered active because they come to the meetings. BottleCapBrony won't be able to come to meetings in general, yet we invited him to the group. (edited)

17:33

I think Terminator would add value to the group (edited)

ok so he literally doesnt have an alt so when he comes to spawn he tps back asap because of the 1.13 things and planned to be at meetings in voice

sounds fair to me

18:23

I am willing to donate an account to him for spawn meetings

GoodguyTerbin

18:23

Yeah. That makes sense. I'm worried about losing my pearls too.

Discussion over our thoughts on initiates and returning masons.

00:34

If talking about random stuff bring it to #smibling-chat

Term now has a spawn account

nice

Its been a bit quiet in here recently

21:49

I'd like to get some opinions from people on xcc2

21:49

Does anyone think he would make a good mason? Is he active enough to warrent initiation?

3

1

21:50

Or does anyone think hes untrustworthy?

21:50

I am just a bit out of the loop so these are genuine questions, lol, I haven't spoken to him much

He is not active

I think he just wants to do his thing

never in voice and never talks, idk if he cares

he is very very active

21:50

plays a lot on 2b

21:51

but I think he just wants to hang out here

Just not really active for the masons?

Not active in the masons + no one has vouched for him!!!

ye

21:51

thats true

21:51

well

21:51

I'll ask him anyway

21:52

I don't think he would want to

someone could vouch but he should be asking to join and i dont think he wants to

ye

21:52

but I think it was valid to bring up and I think he is an awesome guy

21:52

also one of the most dedicated 2bers

I do think that he is one of the oldest oldfags in the group, and is a bit mature, which are always nice attributes to have

21:56

but I see the temperature in the room is that he would probably be another inactive mason, as active in the chat as he currently is

He knows more 2b history than anyone I blieve

21:58

loves to share that info

if he himself doesnt ask and no one vouches then, he can stay guest for now imo, for the "knowledge"

Don’t even bother Todarac I have tried to convince him to join

22:27

Xcc said it himself that he won’t be active in the group

22:27

Amazing guy though

i don't really know xcc (yet), so I'm not opposed to let him stay around.

06:11

on an other note, what do you think about Zetlin? He has only been activly playing for a short time and he himself is not sure if he would be welcome yet.

zetlin is a really nice guy and hes quite active in game but hes kinda new to the server and has not done a lot yet if i see hes a good builder id be sold

also his motivation is not to join the masons at the moment, he likes to hang out here but that's it for now he told me

he's a good builder @Brother Entropy

13:00

let me find a build he sent me

13:01

eh cant find it, ask him about it sometime thou hes n ot bad

One thing I'm very impressed with concerning Zetlin is his ability to meet and work with so many people in spite of being so new and having nothing unorthodox to work with in terms of charisma. Zetlin has very rapidly insinuated himself in the communities that matter on 2b, which is no small feat.

aka ufo taking him under his wing

ye same with terbin

13:10

ufo likes collecting newfags

13:10

;p

my newfags

13:19

i didnt invite zetlin btw entropy did

approved guest

8

Sent an invite to a Lejurv friend. Keep as guest for at least a week please.

jordan ufo mothra cubes and hanscor vouch for warlord the meeting kind of just ended but as theres still 10 people here ill count it in

23:21

assuming this is not a case where several people have hard objections against doign the procedure

vouched for warlord membership?

initiate

I didnt know he was interested in joining, but I will of course vouch for him as well then

oh my god i have enough people

23:21

vouching

sweet

I support this move

I agree, Warlord would make an excellent addition.

00:06

o i was a founding member of the highland for better or worse . Still a leading menber in the small group of builders and explorise the freelancers. have helped with the past 2 Incursion as an active player again for good or bad. also many large and small group builds and projects

Brother Entropy 12/05/2019 00:06

He should stay as initiate for at least 2 weeks before vote!

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i always send them this We take up to a 1 month period after the application to get to know you

I like nik

Ty

k

nik is gucci guy

You’re too kind

nick too

i really like this ufo guy

i really liked this anar guy

21:50

but this nivx guy tho

I feel that before invite controversial people such as AlphaComputer of iTristan, we should speak about it first.

who wants to invite alpha or tristan

Alpha is in the discord

18:50

tristan was just a few minutes ago

shouldnt alpha get his degrees back

18:53

and still

18:53

who invited them or did they ask to be here

18:53

just curious mostly

Before he gets anything back we should talk about if he should be back

i think it's weird that some past brothers get roles and some dont

18:54

but that's just me

18:57

can we get autismbot back

I think brothers should get their ranks back. but wasn't he removed from the masons for a reason? (edited)

18:59

and if so, I think we should talk about it before letting him back in

alpha was removed for griefing summer melon

Yeah alpha is a special case because there was an explicit vote to kick him out

you're no longer a brother if you were kicked so that's why fit and alpha doesn't get brother ranks

19:10

is how i see it atleast

yes

19:10

but even inviting, I think should be discussed

if fit gets guest then he shouldnt be treated much different its just if people here WANT him to be around and have guest

and I thought we agreed on that on an earlier meeting

19:12

who is people

19:12

he was just invited

lmfao since when do we follow our own rules

2

... good point

19:12

still

19:12

we agreed on this for a reason

19:13

because of earlier issues with inviting people

19:13

Well, if I am the only one that feels like this, let's just go this route.

there were 10 people in voice that seemed to be fine with it

alright, if nobody else cares, I don't care

kek

19:17

i ws just curious who invited them

19:18

i personally would have said yes to both

19:18

"10 people in voice that are fine with that" == two people need to ask to get a person a guest?

19:18

jw

mike made the invites

they were made to #masonserver after I posted the picture of the ice dragon

ah but that can happen when you just read the channel, means nothing

ye ive been confused by that several times

I'll kick Alpha out in a heartbeat if you guys don't want him here

ye but it seems to be only me who was bitchin so all is good

terbins a bitch so it's all good

20:17

;)

❤

Alpha did nothing wrong he was a trigger man for satan

i agree

21:58

@Brother Oppenheimer

YO

03:35

What’s your personal opinion of him @brother noname

i love golden personally but i dont think they're a good fit, they argue too much

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Okay. Keep him in the back of your mind for a few months and see if anything changes in his character. (edited)

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the chat style reflects the level of impulse control I guess, but that could mean that Golden has no major negative impulses

Hanscor is 14?!? Would've never guessed

wtf???

05:55

lamp is 14???

05:55

tf

lmao

0x is 13

^badass if true

big if true

Its a pretty nice dude afaik

15:09

Id vouch aswell

I never talked to Golden tbh, not even sure if he/she/it has a mic. Also seems to be in VoCo

Its a he

he seems nice but a bit young

17:03

don't think he would be a good fit at this time

been seeing bad things about golden in emperium

ya like i said he argues

i've talked to golden (not in voice) only a little bit. seems to be okay, as a person. maybe not too too grown up, although pretty based.

he is part of point zenith. used to be member now is associate

okaaaay? well I wouldnt want any of this kinda people here...

probably insiding stuff going on. smells like drama

maybe... he didnt seem to be the zenith type to me and was pretty upset about the gp thing.

Brother Entropy 23/05/2019 00:22

Zet has been pretty much a member for the last month or there abouts. Seems like a good, openminded dude in my opinion. Is on server a bit from what I have seen. Certain he would come join at any base we invited him to. This is my impression.

I second that

agreed with terbin ^

Fourthed.

I think we should add him as well

As god as my witness keep killet out of this server

agreed

I’ve never met someone as bonecrushingly annoying

can we just vote on zetlin so he can come this weekend

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votes need to be up 24 hours I think

its been under a week give it one more

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does someone know "Nimitz"? He showed interest in joining. Nimitz : I noticed that you are on the applicant council I would like to apply for the spawnmasons I'd like to send him a Link to the application form. Where can I find that? (edited)

@Brother Giganox , the link is in #rules

08:29

https://goo.gl/forms/x3sgx3VeIW1Pp5672

Spawnmason Application

Welcome to our discord! We're looking for quality people interested in the game and the group so fill out this application and make sure to have a working mic so we can further get to know you. Be aware: filling out this application doesn't guarantee that you'll become a spaw...

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so this form is mostly meant for already chosen initiates to explain who they are to everyone else in the group but it may be given to people we dont know yet since sometimes there are some great people out there that nobody happened to know but dont give this to 500 people or this becomes a full time administration job

13:03

its generally safer for someone to have ties already before they come in

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I think we should remove ethan/skullerg, he has shown no interest. Promised to help on the big logo in the sky, but never showed up. Hasn't written anything and hasn't been in voice.

agreed

19:21

and alphacomputer (edited)

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guest roles removed, i dont even have to kick people because they just become white

that's kinda neat

Alphacomputer !== 1st degree?

19:44

Guess in the same way as fit isn’t

19:44

I kind of like him as guest

19:56

Let's see if alpha even cares. He hasn't been active in discord with the exception of begging people to buy him prio first time he joined

That's a pity. I have no ill feeling towards SkullerG and it was really nice of him to raise a hue and a cry when stuff at the Plains went down.

last opinions before vote on warlordnik he is in voice right now

He'd be an excellent addition skill and temperament wise. My only reservations are regarding possible past and present entanglements, but many in our group also have those.

we need him

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@brother noname congratz on getting worshipfull man :)

thanks bb

warlord seems to be a pretty great guy hes been in voice from time to time hes been building at the scout base hes been on the server for a good while and everyone seems to want him in (edited)

I knew he would be a good fit

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I'm +1 to warlord

02:16

Have hung out with him a bunch in the 100k discord

I may be the odd one out, but I am really not too keen on any of the current initiates (edited)

02:41

I will probably be voting no to both Zetlin and Warlord

02:41

I will try to attempt to explain why

02:43

It seems like we really just let anyone into the group nowadays. It seems that all you have to do to get into the masons is be generally nice and be active in vc

02:44

I understand that they will still probably pass the vote, and will probably end up reading this, its nothing against those guys in particular

02:45

I'm just thinking, will we let 100% of people in who are generally nice and and active in vc? When will that end? A lot of the people we've added recently dont even show up to every meeting

02:46

Will we end up with a rooster of 100 people eventually? we've already passed 50

02:48

I guess what I care about is the quality of members right now

02:48

Yes the current initiates are alright, but do we really just want alright?

02:49

I think after 50 members I'm starting to care more about quality. My standards might be rising. Thats the best way I can explain my no vote

02:49

We need to be initiating people who are outstanding

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i said it like a month or two ago. we shouldnt vote yes on mediocre. '

i just talked to him and he is by default free at meeting time and plans to come to lodges hes been building at scout base he is actively travelling around and playing even with this horrible queue and he has history with a lot of people here i dont think he is just alright

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yea at least n1k has shown an effort i wish zetlin showed more of an effort

(lets keep this about warlord we can do zetlin next week)

Warlord is an active player who had done quite a lot on the server, he has long lasting friendship & ties to lots of active brothers, he put lots of effort into getting to know people in VC also like 6 people vouched for him! (it may have even been more)

17:49

He would be truly beneficial to the group

i talked to warlord a lot. i think he'd be a great addition to the masons

Nik is a fine guy

I believe Nik is one of the most active players with wits about him. He might talk a bit much when he gets nervous but I do not see that as a minus. And mind you with no disrespect to the people who spoke against inviting. Those people have not been very active with us and haven't gotten to know Nik well. I feel if you would, you would think differently about him

Close the discord

dunno how to read that hanscor

its the "disband the masons" meme

disband the Mesons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meson

Meson

In particle physics, mesons ( or ) are hadronic subatomic particles composed of one quark and one antiquark, bound together by strong interactions. Because mesons are composed of quark subparticles, they have physical size, notably a diameter of roughly one femtometer, which ...

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http_logan wants to come back, can we give him spawnmason rank @Worshipful

16:51

he is excited about getting initiated again

he should come to lodge

he will

Cool

I just want to say/follow up on Tod's point a little. I do agree that we need quality people in the masons and I think we'd be missing out on an opportunity of without zetlin. zetlin has shown so much dedication to 2b and the server and ive personally had so much fun talking to him and playing with him. I seriously think we'd be missing out without zetlin

We should give him a bit more time then - also there is no hurry

i agree, just trying to say something about it

I think we need someone to replace the people who are gone from App Council

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@Брат Bird this system is to prevent people from voting without any reason youre coming back on things we decided months ago and nobody wants to argue about this for whole meetings if the system does not make mistakes, there is no need on arguing about it if you wanna start a half hour argument out of the blue in lodge again youre getting muted

Fucking brainlet if I disagree with a current system I have the right to voice my opinion

08:58

I dont like how the system we implemented months ago is working

08:59

So i wanted to talk about it dickbreath (edited)

09:00

"out of the blue" Go fuck yourself as you can see above I brought up the App Council and told MULTIPLE people i was going to bring it up at the meeting

tell us so its in the agenda and people can think about it tell us what the actual problem is since I think we need someone to replace the people who are gone from App Council is completely different from what you brought up usually we could resolve things before the meeting even starts and if we see theres big problems we can more quickly do a lodgevote and not argue about it there

Allowing active and conscious members to have a vote without the worshipfuls being and picking everyone in the group Like before but with more active regulation

09:31

if you dont notice a member making a constant effort in the chat or group then you can easily deduce that theyre not active

09:31

We used to have a system of the members voting and it was changed to give a random assortment of members the vote for the rest of us

09:33

And if you think about it the majority of people "Arguing" with me at the meeting, more like harassing me, were members of the Council

09:33

If you recall several people were trying to agree with what i was saying

09:34

But noooo

09:34

What you want matters more because you hold the keys

you know what bird

09:35

put your energy into building at smibville instead

No this is a real problem with me

09:36

try to understand why I want a say in the people in this fucking group

09:38

Once again the people in the council trying to sweep my opinion under the rug

Nick, Everyone at the meeting understoond what you were saying, they just didn't agree with you. I think its rather disrespectful to derail a meeting with your belligerent ramblings over a subject that was settled months ago. If you have something to disagree with, bring it up with us individually or ahead of time instead of exploding at a meeting and ruining the mood.

This

Again did you pay attention to Scribble and Emperor trying to agree with me while you harassed my speaking

You mean the same people you insulted because they werent in the group as long as you've been?

"insulted"

09:41

I was making a point

09:42

Saying "how long have you had a vote in this group before they changed the system"

Dude bird - since I’ve joined this group you have been incredibly opinionated without giving anything or playing with us (edited)

Is not meant to be insulting

09:43

I come to meetings and with my schedule I try to do as much as I can

09:43

Including being active in the discord

09:44

You might want to use that same argument with other members as well

true

09:44

you came to meetings

09:44

but youare not in game

09:44

or with us during the week

09:44

but yes

09:45

it can be used with other members as well

09:45

you be not the only one but one of the loudest

09:45

and I love you man

My final point is I dont for one second think this system is fair to the people who should have their vote count

hmm we stilll discuss here

09:46

about new applicants

09:46

and so far teh committee hasnt gone agains the "wishes of the masses"

But your point is theyre supposed to vote FOR me (edited)

Nick, is a fine solution to be that anyone that wants to be in app committee can be in app committee?

App Council yes

anyway - brb

So lets do that then.

09:47

Isnt that obvious?

then we dont have a council anymore

Good

Anybody that wants to be active in getting to know candidates should be able to do so.

Im talking about the actual voting

09:48

Open it up like before but pay more attention to whos contributing and getting to know people

Nick, that

09:50

That’s what the council is lol

People who dont join voice and dont interact with new members shouldnt be able to reject them from the group - a problem we had before

Thats grounds for removal from the rank then

If you want to spend time to get to know members then you are allowed to be on the council

Youre actually calling for the removal of peoples votes

09:51

That’s what I was trying to say. Thanks todarac.

Did you just twist my words

So if they vote no because they didnt getto know the candidate then we take their rank away?

09:52

How would we determine who’s who?

Nick, the system you want (and are describing) is the system we currently have. What is the problem??

That

09:52

That’s what I’m saying lol

it would be if we switched out a few members

We still don’t let shitters in the group. Last one was Jaytheact, and we promptly booted him.

Look boomerang rage quit and left and you gave him app council

09:53

Multiple people have a history of being irrational

So we should remove him from app council?

And you decided on those 10 people to make a decision for the rest of us

You can join too

09:54

Did we ever put a cap on it?

I have always felt you guys think that the council is trusted to listen to the discussion on the player and make a vote

if they vote against what i see everyone say in app com i will complain to them about it ive had to do it only once

We do talk about that

09:57

I’ve changed my vote to be no in representation of a few, even though I disagreed

You're literally gerrymandering

I have no idea what your actual point is

09:57

You

09:57

You’re super all over the place

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09:58

If you could come out with a concrete complaint with everything we need to know about your thoughts then we could have a better discussion

You should have more trust in your fellow brothers to make the correct judgement on intiates. If you are not going to spend the time to get to know people, then you should trust the other people in the group to do it for you

I’d like to know your complaint and why what we currently have isnt working

I don't want to hear complains. I want solutions!

I can hear complaints

09:58

And we can come up with solutions together

there are no complaints, thats the problem

How many times have I offered a solution

09:59

3 or 4 times

0

At the meeting, read back in the logs

It feels like zero lol

Listen god dammit

I was Nick

09:59

I still am

09:59

I’m so trying to ehar your solutions

09:59

The last few times we asked you said the same thing

09:59

I already said it

NickHasCancerToday at 3:16 AM Literally the better system is Allowing active and conscious members to have a vote without the worshipfuls being and picking everyone in the group Like before but with more active regulation

And we said that thats the current system though

10:00

Worshipfuls by the way, do not vote the same

10:00

We dont get together and decide how we will think

I asked YOU @Брат Bird to put someone on the committee , but you did not answer -.- (edited)

Literally the better system is Allowing active and conscious members to have a vote this is the current system

And two members of the committee werent even worshipful a week ago

10:00

The committee is made of active members

10:01

And they are chosen to be worshipful by everyone else

Not all of them

10:01

There are several Active and Concious members NOT on the Council

10:02

Put them on it if thats the current system

So who are you speaking for? Yourself? You want to be able to have a vote? Or are you speaking on behalf of others who haven’t complained?

name some names and they will be on it

10:02

and we'll remove boomerang if it makes you happy

Scribble, Emperor, WarLord, Hanscor, Me

I mean I’m fine with that, but warlord should wait a week

10:03

At least

nick youre not in voice duing the week

10:03

you just became back from inactivity

yes to scribble

emperor is not active at all lol

emperor hardly joins during meetings

You asked for a list

10:04

Emperor knows all the newfags that try to join

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Do you know if they personally want to be on the committee?

And Im always on during the week where the fuck are you

10:05

Im sure they would not mind having a say

maybe timezone doesnt let mee see you i should let an americo decide on this

This is what I mean you say the current system is this but you go right back on it

I work 9-5 so idk

10:06

Im three hours earlier too

The last month ive been on the server and in voice more than I have been in a while

10:07

So what youre saying is your not all that active but you have a vote

10:07

Thats cute

Im saying im not active during working hours

10:08

I get to know all the initiates though

Hell id even strive for Anndroid to have Council

I would agree with you if she wants it

10:09

I think maybeyour conversation would’ve been better if you nominated several people for app council today.

10:09

But that

10:09

But that’s okay.

10:10

I do want to attempt to satisfy your complaints though Nick. I feel like theres middle ground to be found

10:10

You know I’m not against you right?

Things have fucking changed man

10:11

This is literally all because I don't believe In someone representing others votes

bird

12:03

when was the last time u logged in and played with us

yesterday

12:08

Smibville

12:08

Spawn Patrol

Bird man, to be totally honest I asked not to be on the council anymore. I'm so tired of this endless debate over who should be in power, who should vote, who has certain discord perms others don't have, whether any of it matters, the left the right, ideology this, opinion that. Dude I just want to hang out in vc and build something or do big things like the Purge. I am tired of the politics and ideologies that people obsess over so much in the real world, let alone inside of minecraft. We have accomplished two amazing things on 2b in the last month that we should be celebrating, not worrying so heavily about who we do or don't vote into the group. I think we all agreed we should aim for exceptional members not mediocre ones. True, maybe we were not all on the same page at first, but I see everyone of us as a good fit or at least not a bad one so far. The reason, in looks to me at least, that so many people are so heavily opinionated on this and why I myself overreacted to this debate again is because we just want to be free of it. I do understand your point of view Bird and honestly I really think everyone else needs to chill out a little and listen to one of this group oldest members. It's hard to get your point across when everyone is piling on in vc and text. I personally and honestly would be interested in how many others in this channel would like to join the council. Hope everyone is having a good night or day. (edited)

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eloquently said.

I just want the server to level out again and build a nice long safe base with everyone again

12:11

Maybe convert base base to a mason project

we have some cool stuff coming up

12:11

I'm not at liberty to say what it is just yet

12:12

also who is everyone, all masons or past brothers too

big sad. prio ran out and i was kicked typing that..

12:12

f

Its going to take the whole summer or longer for numbers like this to go down

12:13

If they ever do

12:15

it's just going to get worse for a while i think.

12:16

maybe some small quiet parts between youtubers but this queue possibly might not ever go down again

I hope the jewtubers fucking milk this server to death this summer so it can be all be over

12:19

and any time a jewtubers joins people will already know

3rd reg > small youtubers (edited)

Only active people are allowed to have an opinion. Maybe you midfags think you're going to even become oldfags some day? Well you quit. You're irrelevant if you don't even log in. There are newfags with more clout than you, and that redpill is the breakfast of champions. The door didn't close on you. It was shut by your own hand. Whenever you want to become relevant again you know what to do.

3rd Regt are winning this battle. 100.

at least it stopped going up also notice how the server uptime is going down :p

regiment 3 was a mistake

12:45

retards are just lagging all the time now

12:45

the surgical strike has become an uncontrolled chain reaction

things are going pretty well for now. That dude maybe needs to relax a bit though

he's disagreeing with the purge! crash him!

Fuck the purge (edited)

but reg3 is the only one that matters tbh

fuck u guy

eh w/e

I'll talk to him when I get up tomorrow

what time is it now

10pm

2pm

13:01

time 4 bed

The lag should stop. It's just one dude going off course a bit.

would it be possible to get a second to give ironexception guest role?

17:55

had a great lot of talks with im

17:55

we are bouncing all kinds of ideas off of eachother - smart kid

I'll second that

17:57

but don't you boys even think about taking him away from the society

I see him as a great resource in general chat

17:57

his heart is with the society

17:57

and he does truly amazing work

that's for sure

@Worshipful

18:00

wow there really was a purge checking who now has access to #general-20190912 :) (edited)

i'd third that. i talked to iron a bit. he's a good one^^

nice

also no, fit should still have access, only offline people are not visible anymore and he is off

ahhhhhhhh

nothing has been purged

it looks so clean now

i wanna see offlines again

18:02

:(

ye me too

does this mean there are 1000 members of this discord?

22:40

discord.gg/2b2t

22:40

Oh it's 800 that they hide offlines.

22:41

gg discord.

no it was 1001

23:11

i kicked 150 today (edited)

oh wow... why'd you kick 150 people though?

1 click ez

not how. why?

maybe it needed to go below a certain value again i have no clue at this point if i wanna see that it stays this way i need to make sure it doesnt go above 1000 overnight again so i take a buffer so i used discord prune option to kick everone without a rank that didnt click on the discord in the last 24h

hmmm.... maybe not the worst thing...

23:58

i think if people dont show any interest in the server i guess, kick 'em

id kick 400 if it got me the offline member list back

23:59

gonna ask support tomorrow

i mean... if you got rid of 48 others you'd get it

00:05

but tbh as owner of the discord you should have the option to actually look at it..

wait what

00:07

everything i find talks about 1000 threshold

wait what is this 1k threshold?

we cant see offline members right now

01:11

since we went over 1000

weird

ok that makes sence

Hopefully support will get back during the week

We wanted to make it public and now we whine - accept your destiny children

05:34

Kick all scouts or accept it and focus on more important things than that

05:36

first world young people problems ;)

Offline is nice to have

let's kick all scouts then

06:26

and make this a private discord again

06:28

threshhold is 800 - discord support answer https://imgur.com/a/kPn44hk

06:28

anyway

06:29

let's kick them

We can keep the scouts but boot a lot of white names?

You need to relax too Terbin man. Remember when you were super chill? What happened to you dude?

I’m just suggesting solutions - people seem to be unhappy they can’t see offline users - (I don’t mind it). So to solve that I suggest kicking scouts. I do this so we can stop wasting our energy on discussions like this and move on

09:03

Less talking - more doing

09:04

I’m not necessarily against the scouts though

its more the part about people whining and calling them children and the young people part dude. not trying to attack you man, just miss the original Terbin I met is all. (edited)

Alright

09:07

Noted

09:07

Will try to bring him back

09:07

It’s a bit last weeks meeting that colored my words

09:08

I think we would function better without these weekly meetings - but that would not work, since they such an integral part of the masons

I get it man. I overreacted at the time but I think if we all chill and start to build we will forget all this infighting.

True

09:09

Thanks scribble

09:10

And perhaps I would function better here if I skip weekend meetings - I’m here for everything else anyway

terbin where you got that 800 from

10:44

i found this https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360039179931/comments/360004320071

Show/hide offline members on a per-channel basis, not per-guild

In servers with a large number of members, being able to scroll through the offline member list in general chat is not a feature valuable enough to warrant the drop in performance. However, there a...

10:45

oh wait thats actually a recent update?

HOLY SHIT IT WORKED

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10:55

sorry @brother terbin i didnt believe this would work since the guy answered

10:55

ill keep pruning to keep us below 800

10:56

thank fucking god

11:02

_ Also, nobody is really wasting energy on the scouts lol And i dont expect people to

Whatever you guys want to spend your energy on - I feel it could be directed better - but that’s just me :) :)

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Discord bad

I like to think that anything is possible is the future

it should just be a boolean in a config file of our server lol

16:01

idk how their system works but if they cant override that then ..

aaron_alvin

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2

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Brother Entropy 04/06/2019 02:39

hard HARD yes from me

03:22

this guy is fucking great

03:22

agreed with the top 15 builders on 2b

03:23

if anyone has anything to say against this guy I WANT TO HEAR IT

Would like to talk to him, I've seen and heard good things, interested on how much hes interested

04:24

Also he shares the Melon philosophy so I like him already

hmmm - let's take phi or lotus instead

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o dear god if that was a joke i did not get it

06:37

tbh i only have talked with aaron_alvin here and he sounds chill (edited)

it was a joke

06:40

Spoke a bit to aaron and he was great

06:41

seems very very awake

and low drama for sure

that is what we need

06:41

100%

06:41

more people like that

06:41

to keep the entitled edgelords in check

06:41

oh shit I shouldnt insult

06:41

sorry

tbh some drama is never a bad thing as it keeps every one in check

yep - but a bit less for us please

we all are strong will autisted so drama will happen

smib

smib in deed

thinking of a deed

ree drunk and need to sleep deal

8 am here

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From the application aaron seems to be a good fit... didnt get to talk to him yet.

i will make a point to get in Vc with him more when i have the time as we all should

he pointed out that he would be able to get to spawn / meetings / bases

aaron very cool guy

Former: Offtopia uh lol offtopia hasn't been in the masons has he?

in the early days herm just seemed to initiate whoever ran in the lodge lol

10:05

once jared was a spawnmason

i know jared's been a mason (twice) but didn't know off has been

well im not sure

don't think he was

10:09

I know armorsmith wanted to join

yeah i doubt he was (edited)

Armorsmith

11:33

Boi

11:34

I'm done

I haven't had much of an opportunity to talk to AaronAlvin. Going off of this and many of your opinions he seems like a really solid candidate.

No offtopia

can we give jumbo guest role @Worshipful ?

does he want it?

14:20

cause im not really sure he does

will check

he has

22:13

now (edited)

thansk

22:17

best. i have seen a bunch of these typos in this style

22:18

this one is pretty good

jumbo is lub

So to give somebody mason ranks back we need a vote right Entropy?

13:53

I would like to give Jumbo the degrees back he had, and would like a vote for that, if anyone seconds.

I think it's fine to give him his Number: Jumbo has always been a nice dude and his happit to record "history" has been fun at times

ye I feel the same

why did he leave?

I don't really know jumbo. Except he leaked the Christmas base but im not even sure about that

i was in voic when thaty hapende

16:07

and he did not do it on purpus

He left because we were not following the rules

16:13

our own rules

oh lol

now that he has his numbers back, you can remove the guest rank from Jumbo @ Worshipful

Me and Jumbo found the christmas base on the way to build our lodge

16:23

Dont remember how he leaked it

he said the coords in voice

16:27

thinking no one would fuck it up

16:27

but 0x22 or babbaj was in the chat so

he never said the coords

16:32

he said the quad and if it was within x amount (edited)

16:32

lol

0x grinch confirmed

that christmas lodge and the christmas base were very close ye

im gonna assume the vote for jumbo would have passed if there are objections then we will do it though

16:56

and to breithan and other new people: jumbo initiated herm and was long term worshipful he would pass lol

That was only after I initiated him!!!! Lol

16:59

But yes we like Jumbo

finally - worked so long on this

ah alright

we do vote to give numbers back when people left the discord because we really want to disencourage rage quitting (actually jumbo called for this himself) (by leaving the discord) (longer ago) any brother with numbers may come back active and will get spawnmason

I like that

Do we have opinions on @Brother F3?

I have yet to speak to him really.

good dude

00:52

very focused, does a lot of science work around 2b

00:53

high effort reddit posts (edited)

I like him

00:53

he seems active

00:53

and def does noteworthy things

noteworthy is right

He would be a great addition.

01:51

Can I ask if he’s interested in being an initiate?

01:51

Someone needs to vouch for him

Having spoken to him I also think he would be an excellent addition.

he's nice. he does a lot of renders (as basically everyone knows) and has a bit of technical knowledge in this field. i have seen quite a bit of builds from him and i consider him not only to be a good builder, but overall to be a good potential addition to this group.

02:39

he seems to be someone who works hard and works good (edited)

i have know Jumbo for a good bit of time and he is chill af. Iron i know of and a few players i trust like him so all i can say is i would not block him joining... still need to make a point of talking with him but that is my 2 cents

Herm wait

06:24

@SonEasterZombie has an opinion I think

06:24

I would love for iron to join

06:25

But SEZ once told me, don’t take him away from society

06:25

When I asked for guest rank second I think

06:29

If @SonEasterZombie does not object. I vouch for ironexception for sure

As much as I would like for Iron to use his time for the society, he's his own person (edited)

07:48

I won't vouch for him personally, but I'm cool with anyone else doing so

I vouch for him one hundred percent. Iron is a top tier member of 2b2t. A welcome addition in my opinion.

that's 2 vouches

I second/third/forth iron as well, dont know him personally but I think he proved himself already in society and will make a fine mason

had a talk with Iron

08:48

I'll vouch for him

nice

Going to give him initiate

wait... dont we have to vouch during the meeting? (edited)

he didnt get approved initiate, just initiate

approved is only given after the vote passes..... but wasnt there something with vouching at the meetings?

12:45

not that i wouldnt want Iron in...

12:46

because i do want him in

Initiates In order to become a SpawnMason, you must be made an initiate and voted on. To become an Initiate, you must be vouched for by two existing Masons. If your vote passes, you will get the approved initiate rank, and be initiated by a worshipful at a meeting. It is compulsory to be at the lodge for your initiation.

12:47

I read that as people vouching either during meeting or here in discord, the actual vote to get approved happens during the meeting then

12:47

I think it was the same when I got initiate

we said we discuss it in meeting to prevent a person becoming initiate because 2 people vouch, but the rest thinks the person isnt suited and will never pass but if we discuss it here instead and people agree that the person has a good chance of passing, it should be the same

sounds reasonable

yeah. i think this is fine

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Brother Entropy 09/06/2019 00:47

another one bites the dust

Would anyone vouch for Hari? I quite like him.

I like Hari too. I would be down to vouch too Herm. see what everyone else thinks.

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I like hari but he's not one of those players who has seem to done a lot

feel the same - hes also very young

agreed

I like Hari. But I think we are initiating too many people. We have so many already and are added someone new every week.

I dont have anything directly against him, but I know zero about his 2b history or affiliations and he seems a bit on the younger side as well as on the fanboyish side of things

adding a new person every week shouldnt be a problem if they are all worthy people (and so much got added the last month with the public thing so i dont think thats gonna keep going) i kind of think we have the same situation with current initiate zetlin it has also been about a month so i suggest we start the last round of opinions i think zetlin is a really cool dude, active on the server and nice to talk to in voice the biggest thing against is that he is quite new and has almost no history on the server and im not sure how much of a letdown that is for you guys

We cant just initiate every single person who we like. Smaller groups are always better than large groups. I think we are ok right now but if we continue too much further we'll just be diluted down and it won't be special or elite to be a member of rhe masons. We should only invite people who are exceptional and we can't possibly pass up at this point.

@everyone Zetlin

what about zetlin?

it has also been about a month so i suggest we start the last round of opinions

ahhh okay... so i'd say he's been quite enjoyable to talk to... seems to be a good guy. i have not heared so much about his ingame activity though, but at times like these that's not really surprising... maybe the skyblock people have a stronger opinion about him

I have based with him and fully suport and trust him

we are missing out if we pass up on zetiboi

Seems cool and has definitely put in effort to get to know us

I think that he would also be a good addition. His ability to insinuate himself in the community so quickly while making no real enemies is impressive, regardless of what sort of role UFO may have played in that. His dedication to tasks put in front of him is also exemplary. The benefit of this is also a lack of entanglements. (edited)

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Ufo only facilitates and helps, I doubt he "made" zetlin

18:35

:)

18:35

ufo does a lot more than that obivously but I never felt like he tried to influence me

i can see the ufo in you

18:37

he has tainted the good danish man (edited)

oh damn

I like Zetlin a lot

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Can anyone please tell me what Zetlin has done on the server other than "hes nice"

I had done nothing when I joined

23:45

well, I had put considerable effort into my own underground base, but nobody visited that place

23:45

I feel that this leads to the general issue hanging in the air

23:45

What is our direction

23:45

what are our goals

flatten spawn

hehe

Zetlin is so new, theres no guarantee he'll even be around in a few months. Most new people just quit

23:46

and yeah, Terbin is the exception, but Im pretty sure zetlin is not the next terbin

23:46

You guys are voting yes to him because "hes nice"

Again - what do we want to be

23:47

if we want to be the elite group that does great things (which I like) we should handle the discord accordingly

23:47

but we seem to be a group of loosely associated friends

23:47

big projects that allow all masons to join does not attract the good builders

23:47

several have said, we won't join because of all the leaks

I'm pretty content being what we've been for the past few years: a collection of the top 1% of players on the server

ye perhaps

zetlin has built at emperium base and has made 5 maps for the biggest map art (edited)

but I think we should define ourselves with what we do

23:48

not who hangs out in our discord

The spawnmasons are more fluid than that it seems

23:48

Yes its nice to be organized, but back when spawnmasons were "great" (make spawnmasons great again), no one was talking about "how should we define ourselves, what do we do"

23:49

they just did things and it was great, and thats kind of what we still do

ye

23:49

and that is fine

I think we're letting anyone in the door who is nice

if we flow like that

23:49

I disagree

23:50

I feel that the people who say that like you and breithan don't take the time to get to know these people we are speaking about

23:50

just seing discord messages

23:50

we other's speak to them regularily in vc

Ive talked to Zetlin for a combined total of 10-15 hours now

ah

23:50

sorry

I even know what he looks like and where he works

ok

23:50

well then I respect your opinion

I would vote yes for Zetlin in like one year

23:51

Because by that point, that means hes not going to quit, and he will probably have actually done stuff on the server

23:51

as it stands now, ufo likes him, and people "think hes nice" and thats why hes probably going to get in

23:52

Think of all the newfags joining right now. Do you think all of them will stay? no. like 90% will quit

tru, but we also got a lot of inactive brothers

23:52

a lot of people with spawnmason rank who don't really contribute in any wa

23:52

way

That is an ongoing battle that I generally think is under control

23:53

Everyone I see with the #spawnmason rank atleast joins voice every once and a while and attends meetings

or when i talk to; is mostly being held back by queue

the ones who dont even do that (join voice / attend meetings sometimes) are the ones who are content with the number / degree ranks (edited)

hmm not sure if I agree with that, but I might not be online at all times

23:55

eu timezone

23:55

so my view might be skewed

Sal, Ox, SEZ, Terminator, could definitely stand to be more active with us

23:55

those are the ones that stand out to me

well term said he wouldn't be atm, and we accepted that, so I feel like he is excempt. but ye the other's were the ones I was thinking about

23:56

and you forgot one

23:56

Emperor

lol, yes

23:57

I was pretty vocally opposed to Warlord and Zetlin like a few weeks ago

but you are emperium so I guess it's mormal to bow to the first :)

23:57

fist

I had my mind changed on warlord because he actually has an impressive resume on the server (edited)

23:58

Im like hardly emperium

hehe just trying to get at you

23:59

not serious, sorry

I know, lol

good :)

I sometimes think emperor is in here just to be in the loop when making decisions for emperium

23:59

so hes not left out or w/e

still - not really has time for the group

when are you coming to the base that you were invited to when you said you wanted to be more involved @Deleted User

but then again

00:01

if we just want to hang out

00:01

thats fine

i think we want both but for both hanging out and doing shit on the server, zetlin could qualify todarac doubts he will stay around and i cant see the future

he hasnt done anything

00:03

we shouldnt initiate people for the "potential they have in the future"

00:03

Remember my giant "we should only be initiating outstanding people" rant?!

00:04

I would rather have less members that are qualified as opposed to having more members that are just "nice to talk to" (edited)

I second that Toadarac

i think im being haunted by the human fear of losing something feeling way worse than gaining something feels good where we loose the possibility of zetlin being a good member but if we live by having outstanding people, then guest is the role he should be and he may come back to be approved if he proves he can stay around and do shit

you want him in here because hes nice to talk to. If we go by those standards, we have just opened the doors of the spawnmasons to like 50% of the server

00:12

How to get into the spawnmasons? "just be nice lol"

00:13

I will gladly vote yes on him in a year

00:13

I would even go so far as to say we should have a new rule that states that "you must have played on the server for atleast 1 year before becoming an initiate"

bye terbin

00:14

hence why no to that rule

ye true I would not have joined

00:14

at this time

We wouldnt retroactively kick people

later perhaps

Maybe it would have been better for terbin to have joined after a year

00:14

We would have avoided the drama of what henry did

hehehe

wouldnt have everything he brings now tho

that is also perhaps true

00:15

though I really like that I am here

This feels like a cop-out answer every time I say it, but Terbin really is the exception in this case

It's just because I'm a bit older and I know I want this

if we follow a mentality then we dont need a rule

anyway this is the clash henry and I spoke about earlier

00:16

different ideals

00:16

Brother Entropy says, lets go to spawn to find good people

00:16

And Todarac says, let's wait until we see they can handle 2b

i literally agreed to todaracs comment 16 messages above (edited)

You guys gotta raise your standards a bit. Its okay to vote no to people. Its okay to tell them "we voted no this time, but that doesnt mean you cant join in the future"

sure

00:17

and I have done that personally

00:18

and I wish we would be a more tight-knitted group of individuals who do noice big things

This distinction of "having good people to talk to" and "only allowing people in who have done stuff on the server" is not mutually exclusive. In fact, the most interesting people you will talk to on the server are those who have done more stuff on 2b2t

00:23

There are nice people to talk to all over the internet. You will find them on every single online server that exists

00:25

My point is that yes, Zetlin is a nice person to talk to, but as he stands right now, we could have just pulled him out of any other server on the internet

00:25

We should really be striving for people who have stood the test of time on 2b2t. Thats probably the biggest part about all of this that bothers me

todarac im sorry to say this it seems like you're in the minority

00:41

not tryna white knight zetlin or anything

00:41

but i think most people are cool/like h im

00:41

him

thats not at all what the discussion was about though

question: what, beside base with n1k has he done?

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like actually on 2b (edited)

I did nothing

00:45

ye gonna stop with saying that

lel

00:46

he made maparts and is at ongoing emperium bases

00:46

thats all i think

okay. that's at least 3 distinct things he's done so far

00:47

also the fact that WarLord trusts him.

00:50

i would say time is not really a factor we should nessecarally cosider too much, although we should not fully forget about this. I think activity and persistance are much more important (sure it needs time to show these two, but i think with all i heared he has shown them)

00:52

also he seems to have a nice character... not saying i know him really, but i think i've talked and listened to him interact enough to determine that somewhat

@brother noname I understand that people like him

01:09

But my point is thats about all hes done

01:10

Is this how people get into the spawnmasons now? just "be nice"?

01:12

@TheFunnCubes and @brother noname I know its alot to read, but read everything starting from my post 1.5hrs ago

01:12

Can anyone please tell me what Zetlin has done on the server other than "hes nice"

i have seen this and this is why i asked for what he has done. and the answer was: based with Warlord, done maparts, based at some active empirium bases.

01:15

i would consider this to be something

The biggest map art project is probably the only notable thing

01:16

"basing with people" isnt important

and if you read my post above i was talking about persistance and activity.

Theres not even a guarantee he will stay on 2b2t in a few months, thats how new he is

01:17

Everyone is active when they first start

true... i mean i am waaaaay less active now..... it could also be because even prio is long af

01:22

but i mean you got a point with "more time is needed" even if i'd say a year is a bit much

a year is a bit much dependent on what a person does

if he has done anything impressive in like 6-8 months, yeah I'd probably vote yes then

01:28

This issue is much bigger than just Zetlin, it almost has nothing to do with him personally

01:29

Which is why I've been agreeing to "yes, hes nice to talk to, Ive had fun conversations with him", but Im pretty opposed to initiating people 2 months (or w/e) after they join 2b, and the only thing on their "resume" is "ive done a few bases and projects with people"

maybe we can have some more solid "qualification's" on what we are looking for with the app committee and how they should be voting

01:58

Initiates In order to become a SpawnMason, you must be made an initiate and voted on. To become an Initiate, you must be vouched for by two existing Masons. If your vote passes, you will get the approved initiate rank, and be initiated by a worshipful at a meeting. It is compulsory to be at the lodge for your initiation. @Initiate must fill out an application before advancing to approved initiate: https://goo.gl/forms/x3sgx3VeIW1Pp5672 Voting Voting on initiates is done by the applicant council members after meeting the initiate. If voted successfully, the person will be initiated in-game at the next possible meeting. >80% is required for approved initiate. Spawnmasons will be given a position in the applicant council by worshipfuls by their own discretion. Nomination of another player for worshipful may be made by an existing Worshipful at a meeting, and requires 80% approval for promotion

Spawnmason Application

Welcome to our discord! We're looking for quality people interested in the game and the group so fill out this application and make sure to have a working mic so we can further get to know you. Be aware: filling out this application doesn't guarantee that you'll become a spaw...

01:59

right now this is what we have

01:59

so its more of like a vague mood

01:59

then

01:59

like something we can say hey this person is what we're looking for

01:59

something to talk about next meeting forsure

we should maybe also think up more criteria, that we consider to be nessecary for future masons... just so that we have some new rules already that we can vote on and maybe implement, if enough people think the current system needs an update.

02:19

we also need to take care to make them not too exclusive, so it's only a measure for a general quality we want to see in future members, but not something too specific, so that people can meet this in very different ways

agreed

you cant make criteria for a thing like that thats what were here for to assess it on a player by player basis and theres a LOT of people that havent said anything yet

I personally am not saying anything cause I havent interacted with zeitlin at all and dont know anything about him besides what others said so my opinion would be based on literally almost nothing

that's something I have minor issues with about the application system, but don't quite know the solution to

20:54

the fact that we are expected to draw a solid conclusion about whether someone is a worthy addition to the group based on a couple hours max of conversation with them, unless we already knew that person before

20:55

In my opinion the person who originally vouched for an applicant should provide a solid description of the person and their accomplishments, to make the process more thorough

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There are many solutions to this. I.e. a starter base

21:00

but the drive is not there at the moment, especially with queue times

yeah it's really unfortunate

21:03

the combination of a fuckton of players and unbearable queuetimes makes it very tempting to try and recruit people, while also very difficult to properly guide them

That is an honest concern, and I agree that its hard to properly get to know someone after only a couple hours.

23:23

Son, the current solution we have to this right now is the #applicant-council (which some people dislike)

23:24

The council is a collection of people who are ALREADY in vc alot, talking to new people. Generally, the most active people will be put on the council (if they want) (edited)

23:25

and of course they are the only ones atm who actually vote on new members

23:25

however no discussion happens in there, only votes. discussion is here

23:26

but yeah

23:26

hardly anyone is on 2b2t recently due to queue, its really pretty bad

tbh it's good, that the discussion is visible to all masons

im pretty confident zetlin is in a stable position right now, and would be great around he is here for the people, the community the fact that he is really active despite this queue is only in his advantage i also dont think that we are letting in a lot of new people like him, but its good that we keep this exceptional

I made a post exactly 2 weeks ago, and 6 people voted "thumbs up smib" on it (including some of the people who are currently voting yes for Zetlin). Here it is: https://i.imgur.com/k6ZU3bO.png

04:27

This post contains my feelings more concisely than any rant I've done in here in the past 2 days

04:29

I have a pretty strong case as to why we should be voting no on zetlin (or at least just tell him to wait), but I would just be repeating myself at this point

i see people with adequate quality, being backed up by a good amount of people trusting them, and being well active to come to meetings its not like were letting in anyone that is nice to talk to people clearly agree that we want to keep standards high but a lot clearly think that these two meet them (edited)

but if you think hes not outstanding enough then sure vote no, he is well aware that he could be denied just for not having done enough stuff (edited)

that is a fair point Todarac. best i can say from being one of the newer brothers and compair my self to him. I have been active on and off for 2 years and been active in the comunity of 2b2t with a good list of achevements in game. also i am known and trusted by most all players i have based/worked with. Zetlin is still fairly new (ant fag if i member right) and has worked well with empirum but still just coming out of the single player with lag phase of his 2b2t life. I trust and like him alot but i can support a wait and see what he dose.

Problem is, we don't really have anything else to measure people against than speaking with them. Playing together is hard

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unless we establish on const

17:50

which has worse lag than 2b

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I'm in an awkward position on this because while I do on principle agree with Todarac I also see that there's a lot more to the standards of who the SpawnMasons let in than simply the excellent and interested. In fact, overeagerness from what I have observed appears to be a disqualifying factor for obvious reasons. As has been said, the Masons seek the initiates rather than the other way around. In emulation of Freemasonry, the primary deciding factor is demonstrated good character. So while it's natural that certain status, accomplishments and longevity would be factors in invitation to the fraternity, it seems that rather than being the primary motor of decision these are simply a consequence of time sussing out the deeper character of the prospect. On this subject I've been contemplating the theological question of grace. In Christendom, grace is always unmerited. You are saved not because you deserve to be but because that is part of making a better world. I'm not saying that the decision making processes of the SpawnMasons should be identical, but rather that we should probably take a deeper look at our historical and ideological precedents for approving initiates. Particularly where merit through deeds was not the driving criteria. I agree with Nik that a wait and see may be the best solution. This may indeed be the best way to suss out the depths of his character.

17:52

My apologies if word salad. I generate paragraphs when deep in thought.

that was a wonderfull salad tbh

I think Zetlin was very active when he first joined the discord and I enjoyed speaking to him & got to know him quite well, however in recent days he has been a lot less active. There are also several people who have been vocal about not letting him in due to his lack of time/achievements on 2b. If I am forced to vote on him now it would have to be no because of this however I do see the potential in him and would like to see him stay around in the discord and see if peoples opinions of him change. I have not yet voted for those reasons (I dont want his rank to get removed if I vote no, but I do not feel I can in good conscious vote yes) (edited)

I can guarantee that he will not be kicked from the discord if the vote ends up No

I voted Ladders meaning he needs to do some climbing

I'd like to suggest a delay in Zetlins approval, if that's possible. Let him climb the ladder for a bit (or the vines, idk)

thats a no

returned to guest

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Brother Entropy 12/06/2019 13:40

i dont know a lot of what this person does outside of the data stuff but 7 months ago he came in to help us mine out obsidian in the ocean cube for no reason

i've seen a bunch of his buildings on other servers.... he hasnt shown me much 2b stuff (understandably) but he said he didnt do much lately besides mapping, although he has done stuff before.

I talked to zetlin and he was actually crying about not being let in just an fyi @Brother Todarac

unlikely

i mean.... he has another chance

13:19

or usually he should have

13:20

wearen't we saying he'd stay initiate?

If true, understandable. It was very close. As I said in regards to something separate, a good opportunity can become a poisoned chalice. Hopefully he quickly recovers from any negative feelings.

@Brother Oppenheimer on trial for using the good name of the SpawnMasons to advertise his shop

I second

Yeah, heck that guy he likes ladders and pumpkins.

ladders are fine but pumpkins idk about that (edited)

what's wrong with them?

17:55

cheap light source when not having access to duped stuff

they're not melons

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1

if you work with indirect light

17:55

hehe

17:55

that is true

actually i think zippie wrote that

17:56

see recomend

lmao

yeah zippie is spamming on it

make it stop

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plese

wtf

18:04

how is he spamming on it

its

18:04

SpawnMasonS

18:05

not SpawnMason

LOL

put zippie on train then? but we would have to initiate him first (edited)

initiate zippie, than put him on trial

This. Bring in zippie and trial him for lulz.

Ok aaron has been in for almost a month now i suggest we start our discussion We have seen the shit he built, the places he was at and i think hes definitely worthy Hes not terribly often in vc, prefers not having people talk when hes building, but he is around in general chat hes free at meeting time and plans to come to those i think he would be a good addition @SpawnMason

I'm not convinced about this guy

same

02:44

I personally don't enjoy talking to him

Glad to be back on the committee (edited)

02:55

But I'm going to sit the recent ones out till i'm up to speed

(edited)

02:56

>Deathexception

02:56

Yeah, I Mena, that should tell you all you need to know

02:57

That's a lamer screen name than kyle_rayner_ion

Can you repost his app?

Latest pin

02:58

Rock the casbah

Aren’t we speaking about aaron?

aaronexception

I like IronException. He has brains and is "strange" enough to not count as "mediocre" I guess. But he is someone different from aaron! Where are the pics of what aaron build? (edited)

yes, I thought this was abou aaronalvin, not ironexception

06:53

can we have the proper application?

06:54

nvm, found it

06:54

thanks dielo

so what do you guys think of Aaron

I personally think aaron_alvin is an example of an outstanding player on 2b2t

10:02

He is easily in the top 5 best builders of 2b2t of all time, hands down

10:03

This may be for self-serving reasons, but I really want to have more top tier builders in the spawnmasons

10:04

not only to have some more exquisite lodges, but for some other projects too cough

10:04

However it seems that hes not too active in chat, and I can see why that can be a downside for some people

I don't think it looks like he is interested in joining the masons, but more like just another discord to hang out. He writes very little of substance its 99.9 memetalk and pictures.

Yes there is a certain mindset people get when they really want to join the masons. People tend to "lean into it"

10:10

like accept it as their main """"faction""" or w/e

10:10

I dont think aaronalvin has that tbh

10:10

but I wish he did

so I think we could keep him as a guest

10:10

well

10:11

Don't think Emperor leaned into it or SalC1 :)

thats absolutely true tbh

but it's not only that Todarac, there is very little interaction with most people here and aaron

I sitll would like to see what he build. and also will interact with him soon

ye would be nice to see

we have 16 guests, should we really keep all denied initiates as guest? (not saying we shouldn't keep aaron as guest if he doesn't pass, but 16 guests is a lot)

t h i s

also true, but this discord is no longer an exlusive thing

when I joined there were no guests (edited)

everyone and their mother get guest :)

topic for next meeting: guest purge? (edited)

we literally used to have a "rejected initiate" role that was black

hehehe

before they got kicked

urges them to leave

true, this discord is public atm

10:14

but I do really think we have too many guests atm

ye but not only that, we had this discussion many a times

I'm almost paranoid to say too much info in general

to we keep this a no no shitters allowed secret enclave or not

10:15

we never arrived at a conclusion

10:15

some want their friends in here

10:15

some want it to be exclusive

10:15

ye me too

10:15

and whenever I mentioned that they can see general

10:15

I was told, ye that's basically public

I'm actually really on the fence on this guest topic, if im being honest

10:15

I dont know if I want a purge or not

I think we have respect club as our public discord

10:15

and we can keep this tight

10:16

but I might be alone with that opinion

I like the pro-exclusivity argument

10:16

If it makes the spawnmasons a more "desireable" place to be

and we agreed on it before :)

10:16

ye

10:16

adds value

but on the other hand, this is just a nice place to hang out and chat

ye

10:17

if that is what we want it to be

10:17

thats fine too

10:17

but we should decide

10:17

I like the secret hideout thing

should be more than just a nice place to hang out and chat

heres an interesting topic: what the fuck do we do with jumpy, lol

yes

10:17

but it's not really atm

10:17

I spoke about that before Todarac

10:18

this promted people to say he has to stay

10:18

and ufo to make a meme picture

the jumpy problem is actually a real problem

10:18

he can not be kicked, and he can not be initiated

why can't he be kicked lol?

kicking jumpy has huge backlash

Because people want him here

why

many people like him, including me tbh

they like hanging out with him

10:19

jordan used this argument to invite several people

10:19

to hang out with them in vc

jumpy is such an integral part to 2b2t tbh. hes like a link to the rest of the server

again

10:19

we have do decide

10:19

what do we want this discord to be

10:20

but if there is one thing the SpawnMasons don't like - it's decisions ;)

lol terbin I have the strange feeling that will question will never be answered

:)

10:20

same here

we want it to be what it has been

but that's ok - masons have become another group, the queue did it's part of course

10:20

well

10:20

nostalgia

10:21

usually that is mostly futile

a clusterfuck of people bumping into eachother on the internet with loose structure

hehe

there are rules, but the rules dont matter.

10:21

its paradoxical almost

so we can harm a brother you say?

We agree with how the majority sees things, and the majority does not approve of griefing other brothers bases

dafug is this conversation about?

ahahahah

10:22

this conversation got meta

10:22

were supposed to be talking about aaronalvin :P

10:25

I propose a rank between "Guest" and "Spawnmason" called Ambassador

10:26

this role will not be handed out easily. It would be for people such as Jumpy exclusively

10:26

This also solves the problem of being able to kick guests at our whim. We can do it whenever.

10:26

but people like jumpy can stay

that changes nothing :)

10:41

might as well keep guest rank then in my opinion

10:42

or keep them in guest

10:42

is what I meant

i didnt talk to aaron yet, but i've only heared positive things about him so far...

the whole guest issue could be handled on a case by case basis as we dont have THAT big of an influx of guests at most times + a regular guest purge every now and then. I do agree with the notion that at hte moment, there are to many non-masonic entities in this discord(not even including scouts)

i think if a guest says nothing for a month or so they can be removed.... (edited)

this would include drollovitch, asked about him before, was told he stays

if they arent active for more than a month than it can be whoever imo, theres still dozens of discords to "stay in touch with friends" not to mention if its like some extreme case e.g. I was in a hospital for over a month, they can contact anyone of us and explain and request the guest rank back - I think this would work nicely without anyone getting butthurt

I agree with this

if we only had channels that the guests couldnt see...

byrnsy caineslaw and xcc are the guests that have not said something in more than 2 weeks we can go over the list and remove some next meeting can we continue on aaron lol

I dont have an opinion on him, its the same case as with zeitlin - I havent been with aaron in vc(havent been much in vc in general bcs of my recovery circumstances other than during meetings) and other than his application I know nothing about him, so I will leave this one to others (edited)

also, 98% posts of his re indeed memes so there's really not much to go on

he just hasnt been in voice much, not much of a talker but hes also far from toxic or annoying we denied zetlin because he was nice to talk to but hadnt done a lot on the server kind of the exact opposite here

ye but he is not really participating

Im not denying aaron

15:02

just saying I dont have an opinion

15:03

I wont have any problem whatsoever if he gets voted in

He is a pretty chill dude fron moment one. Idk i think he would be more active if he would be acknowledged. Just my two cents

he doesnt really participate because his thing is building

Aaron is good goy.

People have spent weeks trying to get to know you guys in VC only to be denied for not being active on server. Now some of you are talking about kicking Aaron for not being completely active vc, though vc seems pretty dead lately anyway, while admitting he has done huge things on server. 90% of general is just dumb memes, so it's don't think it's really fair to criticize him for responding in kind.

04:09

Holy shit you dudes are so greedy with the kick perms.

04:09

Just looked in uncool and everyone is gone.

we kicked the whites

Why?

It was agreed a few weeks ago that the discord would go back to private(ish) once we lost the 2b2t url

I thought we were going to talk about it again, not just kick the instant it went

whats the point in talking about it or waiting

everyone celebrating in there is a bit childish too, makes us look even more like just a bunch of shitters.

04:11

not sure, hence the discussion.

04:11

I'm way out of the loop in most things though, so just ignore me.

the vote was actually to kick the whites once we went below 50 boosts, but we pushed it to once we lost the URL

04:12

which lasted surprisingly long

Yea we got respect club for that

06:52

We should kick all in the public ones even if they boosted

06:52

Else this reflects very poorly on us

06:53

Now that we kicked the whites, let’s kick the others too, even if they boosted

06:53

Else it looks like you can buy your way into the masons

06:54

They are already complaining about this in several discords

06:54

He consequential !

06:54

No halfway shit

06:58

And hope they got an explanation too - though I doubt it

06:58

There is so much we could do better in this group, if there was will

06:58

There is not :(

06:59

and regarding aaron Scribble

07:00

if he wants to join

07:00

he needs to participate and do an impression on us in some way

07:00

he doesnt wanna talk to us while he builds

07:00

we don't see screens of anything he has built

07:00

he does not contribute in any other way

07:00

all we have is his so called legacy

07:00

that some people here keep mentioning

07:01

and if one wants to join the spawnmasons

07:01

I think it is ok to require a little effort of people

07:01

aaron does not pu that effort in, hence he would not have my vote (edited)

Under this view I imagine many of us, myself included, would not be masons. Maybe that would be better.

07:31

I know I tend to go quiet when I build, I don't share what I build 99% of the time with this group and I don't really contribute anything 2b related to the Spawnmasons.

07:32

If you think the legacy of the masons, "the cool group 2016" is still how we are viewed, I think you might be out of touch with the servers current opinion of us.

yeah if you want someone to be in the group sometimes you need to hustle a bit and get what you want

07:51

also the masons don't have a great track record with keeping things under wraps, someone in here recently leaked my face to the anti incursion

shit

@Brother Scribble how does the server think of us

By now, most of the applicant-council should have had some interaction with aaronalvin or should seriously consider it. I'd like to hear more about your personal experiences with aaron and less about prejudices. (edited)

I like him, he has an extensive history with some of my old friends great builder

08:34

Good goy

08:34

Aaron good

I think to some the old element exists, but it's mostly just viewed by anyone active in the community as a leaky group of randoms and oldfags that don't really trust each other and infight constantly.

I think we think people think that of us but I think we think that is true more then the people on the outside

10:19

we're like this cool shadowy group of elite people to everyone else

@SonEasterZombie should do a poll, because most people don't really care about us one way or another (edited)

@SonEasterZombie

10:44

this

a poll would seem pretentious af though and would make a lot of people answer negatively just out of spite imo

does it really matter how the server sees us the infighting has been a problem for a while, at least in meetings because people barely listen to each other when theyre mad, but i think its been kept down very well the last weeks and we can keep it like that

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if I were to do a poll about faction opinions, I'd lump in all the major factions, not just the masons

13:54

and of course it matters how the server sees us if you intend on interacting with the community

13:54

if you don't then nah, it doesn't matter

yea that's what I was thinking like a factions survey

14:42

that way it's not skewed to sm

when i wasnt a member of this group i hardly knew anything about it. it seemed mysterious, yet somehow like the best group on the server, because you dont hear much about it. I think a general faction survey of like voco, emp, masons and highland (maybe throw in a few smaller ones too) wouldnt hurt anyone

16:12

and it would tell us what people really think

So let's cook this down from my perspective regarding aaron. 1. some people know him and have interacted with im before, also know he is an awesome builder. These people want him here, and as Scribble mentioned it has happened before that some people got pushed for. (This is legitimate I think, if you know somebody) 2. Others like me, who have not had the chance to interact with him, because he makes himself so scarce are questioning the value of him joining. I do not want to a party pooper and if the majority wants him here, I will not stand in the way by voting no. However, we also have to acknowledge that we are in no way an exclusive club and should stop the bitching about guests. (I personally prefer the secred enclave, but I am not at a majority here, so I will make like water).

I have talked to him a bit more since last time. and here is my updated i think he's nice and he has done some crazy stuff. he has shown to be determined as hell. i think he belongs in here.

We only have infighting because our group has actual politics. That’s the sacrifice of trying to make everyone on a fairly equal playing field. Other groups just build, or pvp, or whatever. The only thing to fight about is if someone leaks something. We’re much more than that. And we all have our own visions for what we should become.

5

ok fair point if i do not know and trust that person then fuck them and will never vote for them... i do keep a small number of trusted players so will vote down any one i do not know and fully trust... feel free to change my mind

Agreed. at 50+ members I think our standards should be higher. If people want to vote no, then do it.

I would need to interact with him more to form a decision. From what I've seen, Aaron is pretty decent, and his sense of humor is impeccable. I have not seen enough to vouch or vote for him, however, and so would have to abstain or vote no if he were put to a vote now.

Yes we have 50+ members but how many of them are actually active?

20:12

We need more people who will be active in the discord and most importantly VC.

20:14

There are so many people in this discord that I only talk to once a week at meeting and some only one a month if they can be bothered to show up at all. (edited)

i think it has a high correlation with people playing on the server and many people are not playing on the server right now counting 50 members doesnt make a lot of sense if half of them dont even plan to play in the future high standards are fine but we shouldnt set them too high if we demand having epic history on 2b and being super active in voice were gonna have nobody accepted i want new people that are bound to this server, keep playing and can contribute in the way they like (edited)

ye but if we want to do that right, we have to remove inactive brothers

20:43

and decide what we want

when i count members i only care about people in #spawnmason removing inactive brothers wont bring more voice activity lol

ye - who knows

Half of you are not happy with the amount of vc AAron has been around for, but Zetlin was in there almost everyday and was denied because people said he lacked achievements on 2b. Everyone had the chance to know Zet and he still had a no vote. "must climb the ladder more" was the line you used. Aaron is almost the opposite, massively accomplished on the server itself, with some of the most well known bases under his belt while easily being one of the best builders you will meet on 2b. Dude has a great sense of humor and would fit in pretty well here as he does know a fair few of us already. Terbin you say, "others like me, who have not had the chance to interact, because he makes himself so scarce are questioning the value of him joining" This is misleading and an attack without reason. He does not "make himself scare" as though he is avoiding contact, or doesn't want to be around here at all as these words imply, he has other things he is doing. Possibly if more people were joining more frequently he would be around more. Remember timeszones are a factor, but if you wanted to be on the applicant committee, previous lodge discussions lead me to believe it is on you to make the time to get to know applicants less than the other way around. Vc is one element, but it seems to me from past Initiates that time spend conversing meant very very little towards a yes vote. In my opinion voting no on Aaron just displays a complete lack of appreciation for the things that make him a landmark member of 2b2t. (edited)

05:27

But my name is Scribble so what the fuck do I know.

Alright that is fine

06:18

and this is not misleading, he is making himself scarce

06:18

but

06:18

I do not join the WE meetings because I do not enjoy them

06:18

else I am very active

06:18

also

06:19

and I make a lot of time, I am here almost always

06:19

And I think you are wrong there scribble

06:19

and applicant should make themselves available

06:19

he wrote an application

06:19

and

06:19

if, as you say, he has other things to do

06:19

let's wait

06:19

and then talk about him again

06:20

no need to rush things

06:20

because by the logic above

06:21

Prismary should have joined back when he was in here

06:21

but nobody defended him as vigorously as you currently fight for aaron scribble

06:28

but alright scribble, let's see, I am making time to get to know him (edited)

06:34

and btw

06:34

what about Leijurv

Greetings Sisters and Brothers, I'm happy that some do put a lot of effort into getting into contact with initiates like aaronalvin. Otherwise we would just miss them. I just hope he's not getting scared of by all this attention xD Thanks to all of you who shared there experiences with aaron! And also thanks to those who have pointed out that we do not have uniform join conditions, but trust is very important. (edited)

id like to not switch initiates because it will become a mess when people cross talk about 3 people (edited)

makes sense

it would actually be good to involve initiates more in what were doing let them come to bases if trust is not an issue let them come to lodges but not in the meeting

I like this

it would be good to see if they actually care to show up in the future and it would be a moment they are here to talk to everyone

ye was a quick filter for skullerg, who got coords to the logo build, even offered to bring obby but never came

iron is awesome

3

Leijurv is also awesome

08:29

aaronalvin never answered me

aaron was with us in the vc pre meeting and also post meeting if I remember correctly

08:58

I second that leijurv is awesome

did he speak?

yea he did. I still really dislike the vibes he gives off and the way he talks

09:09

Aaron that is

hmm will see if I he can find time to speak with me this we or next week

09:11

will dm him

he never answered

hes in voice right now

@Brother Entropy @brother noname

21:10

please keep discussions here

21:10

that's from #applicant-council

ye

21:11

the #rulesmasons2019

:)

anyone remember who vouched for him?

i might have

21:13

not sure

21:14

i was quite fond of the dude

dude @Brother Entropy :)

Please ping @ everyone in the vote chat next time

will do jordan

21:49

talked to no voters and they were reasonable no new vote on aaron for at least a month no hard feels please

21:51

this is what i sent him

21:51

>you're building style

21:52

im retarded

butthurt alert

He's not out for good

tbf getting denied is probably the worst feeling in the world (edited)

but its not like you are getting denied from a job or a university ffs, its a group on discord where he can still be a guest and chat with everyone

Even tho I personally wanted him in, I think the system is absolutely fair and the people who voted no have valid reasons

I was denied at first vote as well if I remember correctly

ah there we go, I DO remember correctly

LOL at the

22:03

sorry dielo

22:03

I think frankfurt put that one

its fine, I didnt make a fuss, I was totally content to be able to hang out in the vc as guest, thats why I dont get why people get automatically butthurt like that when they get denied at the first try

he wrote me now, nice answer, will vc with him soon

22:35

i tend to send a dot randomly if someone doesnt answer

lmfao

wtf why not accepted

22:47

wtf!!!

Bogus

ah this is his https://imgur.com/a/Pm4dhSu

I choose to enact my one free mason fast pass to allow Aaron to bypass the council

Epic ^

I had to do it to em

Ive since spoke to the guy

06:11

him not answering me was an oversight on his part and nothing intentional

06:12

he seems like a nice cool dude, still have to vc

I think that IronException would be an... exceptional candidate for the masons

i wish i could put people on 300% voice

I wish I could summon cute birds at will

I wish I could feel empathy

I wish i could feel

i wish girls would like me

You probably just need to shown them your red name in the spawnmason discord.

so fucking true

Show them your Masonic award on Herm's website ufo

omfg

put that on your tinder

20:02

and there you go

Hes cool just a bit quiet

HO Hanscor?

22:15

who even

Nekromite

Ah

terbin. come down here

dunno much about him

22:16

No I prefer to be with the plebs

me and n1k now him from waaaaay back

22:16

he's one of the most active 2b players I know of

22:16

6th and 7th incursion

Keeps me grounded

helped us with the obi sky

but- but- but-..... meetin

ah thanks Dielo

south canal corp

22:16

and almost 0% toxicity and cancer

22:16

all around nice goim

Yea once we organize a clear meeting structure and an agenda we follow I'm back in

22:16

german organization

22:16

and dick around after

just u wait till i run my first meeting

I will join

(so i think this is what we are aiming for) so our requirements are quite loose but what were kind of looking for are people that have done and still do exceptional things on 2b (this could be highly technical, aesthetic or other traits) are actively playing and are likely to keep playing want to join us for meetings at spawn want to learn to know our group and be in voice | in the end we are also quite a group of friends so in order to join you need to become a friend (edited)

You used Mike as your free Mason pass lol

dont know if jumpy being initiate is a meme again or not but for what it's worth I'd like to say that he does not have my vote, not because I dont like him, nor because he doesn't have enough history and activity on 2b, but bcs he's a liability with a mouth he just can't keep shut when necessary

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i removed it to actually talk about it next meeting

while we're on the subjects of roles and stuff, I joined the smibville channel earlier today and was surprised to see 3 guest roles there, am I missing something? why are there non masons in a channel dedicated to a mason base? is it the same as with the consta project where we decided that guests are welcomed?

ufo started and ran the base i let him give people access and as not many people here are making it to the base i wasnt against letting guests in just like cubes invites guests to his place

yep, ufo started this

13:05

and I think it's a nice idea to get to know the people

kk, Im fine with that as long as it was known from the start that guests are allowed, no problem

I think @brother noname made that decision recently

no mike said he would have guests there

all good in the hood

13:14

Imma make my way over as soon as 2b allows me to connect kek

lel

13:14

ah

@Brother Todarac I me Nordic vouch for phinix

18:36

phoenix

i also vouch

18:39

thats 2 vouches

good thing u guys arent on app committee (edited)

lets do the thing for leijurv https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353423878137315329/587065137052123149/unknown.png?width=605&height=677

20:51

@SpawnMason

hell yea

insane!

So many people use baritone, i feel like its certainly an exceptional player hes been helping random people with a lot of shit i dont see him too often in voice but apparently its timezones and hes active in americano times hes been coming to constantiam lodges activity on 2b is gonna be low but i think the rest makes up for that

definitely a yes

yes

1

activity on 2b2t is none

21:14

but yeah

well he sometimes helps our activity on 2b

@Brother Entropy the rules dont say we have to vouch at a meeting

it was discussed in meeting of april 20th and put in journal, ill add it father (edited)

it actually already is in the journal, during the 420 meeting

he wouldn't know

is the journal only accessible to brother rank?

Because guests dont need to see it

babba isnt a guest lol

He Can see it

no saying he doesn't pay attention to anything

more leijurv please

leijurv is based and redpilled

true

+2 shipit

00:34

og enterprise java computer scientist approved

Leijurv is an excellent choice

if we are considering jumpy I think we should also re-consider drollovitch

>considering jumpy

I thought he was considered, considering that he held initiate for a short while

if we're considering jumpy then I'd like to nominate my good old friend jared

point and match

jumpy is not on the menu today

gr8

17:18

Jumpy is good at leading spawnfags

17:18

not at epic spawnmason roleplay

Jumpy is on the kids menu

I think the real question to ask with Jumpy is, what would have to change for him to be considered seriously? Traditionally, we're weak in regards to PVP ability. We should reinforce ourselves where we are weak, even if PVP drama is as silly in Minecraft as anywhere. I will always be more proud about what I build in or out of block game than bickering about who killed who, however. (edited)

leaky leaky leaky

ironic

Everyone knows I’m a pvp god

23:18

leijurv passes

~~ufo dont post a screenshot to the initiate where its clear you voted no~~

hehehehe

This is EPIC

if you make impressive things for minecraft you get in

03:37

just hopes he actually comes to meetings every once and a while

I think he will

07:10

so he will

really happy to have him here

07:27

also Todarac, he does not only make impressive things, he also interacts with us a lot :)

Leijuv seems like a nice dude.

It's perhaps a bit early, timewise. But I really would like IronException to become a brother

18:37

always in VC, always interacting with us.

18:37

coming to the consta lodges

18:37

doing the renders

18:37

the weekly spawn WDLs

18:38

And I think he fits

I agree. I think he’s our next one to vote on.

Yes i heard we should do him this week too but wanted to not throw them right after eachother but now is fine IronException @SpawnMason

aye

Hes been consistently in voice and really showing effort he does the cool render and society stuff aye for me

I guess we are a peaceful group aren’t we.

mostly yes

20:16

seing the other drama out there, 100% (edited)

The only drama we face is rather we should have a selected application committee or not

Lol

Or who leaked emps face

yea just internal crap

20:16

ah ye dunno that

But here’s the thing, how will I be able to covertly control everything unless we have elected officials that I’m a part of by default? (edited)

Who has the most smibcoins, etc

but aren't you in that current situation herm? :)

Every day, his lust for power grows stronger (edited)

Anyways, sorry to derail this conversation that’s supposed to be about ironexception

herm is just working his way up to getting discord owner again

21:11

so he can ban everyone

lmfao

21:30

iron is amazeballs

iron is a really nice guy and does a lot of amazing work about the server.

I don't want iron to join the Masons cuz everyone who joins becomes inactive within a few months

22:53

The spawnmason discord is really just a oldfolks home

speak for yourself

Happened to a few though

22:56

I think it's because you think the masons are one thing

22:56

and once you are in, you realize that we are, at the moment, another

Iron Exception seems like a cool dude to me since he actuall contributes to the whole community

22:58

also, were we seriously considering jumpy for initiate?

I do not know, just saw he held the rank for a bit, but didn't Entropy answer above?

22:59

lemmecheck

22:59

no clear answer

I know they were discussing it, but I didn't know if it was serious, since I know we meme a lot about him

just that he was not on the menu that day

23:00

Scout supervisor jumpy

I don't know about you guys, but I actually think he would be a fine mason. He has always been fun to talk to in chat, and he also came to my base and respected it, so I would trust him as a brother

23:01

That's just me though. I know people still see him as a meme (sort of)

23:03

has he expressed interest in joining the masons recently?

He has been helpful for example he handed kits out at constantiam spawn at one of our lodges

23:05

and generally is supportive

23:05

but I feel that he is too close to the constant pvp-faction drama

23:05

always involved with body and soul

I agree. I see him as "the loose cannon" in a fun way

23:06

do you think he would drag the masons into conflict on 2b?

I don't know, but he is an opportunist

23:08

he could try to use the mason name

23:08

One thing that happened in Respect Club is that he used the discord to get close to SuperDuperGoodBoy streamer to bedtrap him

who the hell is that? lol

even though the purpose of that discord was clearly explained to him

23:09

was a short meme

23:09

some streamer

23:09

who came on

23:09

seemed like an actor

ah lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67XVxvgeU5I

DanThePokemario - 2b2t

SuperDuperGoodBoy acts like an idiot after I kill him ingame, Mine...

23:10

was so much over the top

23:10

that clip is not good

23:10

well none are

23:10

but he doesnt speak

23:10

https://clips.twitch.tv/ShyPlumpBasenjiMVGame

B A S E D - Clip of SuperDuperGoodBoy - Twitch Clips

Clip of SuperDuperGoodBoy Playing Just Chatting - Clipped by YouTeeAre

https://clips.twitch.tv/TameFantasticGorillaStoneLightning

EZ BOOKBAN - Clip of SuperDuperGoodBoy - Twitch Clips

Clip of SuperDuperGoodBoy Playing Minecraft - Clipped by kenautv

thanks Lamp

i took away his initiate because he wasnt vouched for at the meeting

"it's nice to see Twitch supporting the mentally disabled" LOLOOL

23:11

topkeke

he ran into a 2mb chunk oops

ah ye, wonder who put that there

23:13

das a big gif

23:23

wait hold on

23:28

jumpy disrespected the respect club?

ye

23:33

but many have over time

23:33

they got kicked

23:33

and came back

23:33

and behaved after that

had to shove the respect right up their assholes

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lets get my nigga finstaa in here as a guest

NO

07:33

I am completely, absolutely against having finstaa here, he's as a toxic, delusional fag as haxified and should have been booted from emperium long ago

1

Let's get Fluffbucket in here

4

ooh I get it now, we're making jokes, ok

07:39

to early in the morning for me to get that advanced level of sarcasm

2

Finstaa asked me to nominate him, I told him he'd only have a chance as a Mason if his German accent was perfect

I know we're making jokes and stuff but who the ACTUAL fuck is he even? I never heard of him until a bit ago when I started to randomly check out the emp general channel and noticed a huge loudmouth thats obviously full of himself af lmao

Talked to him during the purge stuff

19:07

Not sure if he’s at our level yet

finstaa seems extremely immature to me. also all up in that drama sstuff

If he was somewhat mature he would already be in here

He has potential tho

19:17

Give him like a year and he might mature into a respectable young man

And we can reconsider then :)

ericudo told me he joined emp jsut a couple of weeks ago

19:51

from what I've gathered he joined 2b no sooner than march-april this year

19:52

and eric also said he's obnoxious with which I wholeheartedly agree

19:52

you just need to watch the emp general channel for a bit to recognize that a 100%

Someone post that image that says to be a mason you need strong morals

I did in general

23:25

no need to decide on them now just get to know them eh

age "over 25" lmao

yeah that's a bit sus to me

she does sound mature enough to be over 25

i mean... this is enough information.... i dont bother too much.... has anyone before not put in an exact age?

you'd think someone would only do that if they were really young

yeeeah or a woman (sorry if i sound like an asshole saying this) many women are very touchy about their age

well good for them

01:16

doesn't change the fact that they can't just give estimates (edited)

01:16

if you're fuckin 28 then you're fuckin 28, no one is gonna make fun of your for that, and I'd hope no one here is interested in fucking Giggles so it doesn't matter

i mean... i am interested in what she does, so i can give a clear yes or no vote

irl oldfag

01:18

>12

01:18

lmao

i joined 2b, when i was 25. please give me a toaster. i wish to take a bath

also entropy, you can make it so that you have to enter a number to that question

01:19

it will give you an error code if you try to enter letters

i wouldnt want to force people to give their age... this here is all trust based. she could've put in 25 and we wouldnt know

it's my opinion that if you aren't comfortable enough to give certain people your age, maybe you aren't a good fit for those people

are you actually making a big deal about her putting "over 25" there

ehh, it just bugs me

idk man. if you want to know so badly go ask her in person... i am fine with "over 25" (edited)

put them on the spot when we initiate them

01:25

and ask the age

i'm not gonna try and keep her from being initiated over it or some bullshit if you guys can tell she's at least close to the age she claims, it would only be a big problem if she sounded 15 or something

Im too tired to scream right now but WHOEVER

01:29

IS FUCKING LEAKING ENTIRE CONVERSATIONS VERBATUM TO JUMPY

01:30

CAN DIVE IN A BED OF FUCKING NAILS

Its probably me since Im talking to jumpy exclusively

01:30

I am not leaking convos with him tho. I am just talking to him

I DONT NEED EVERY FUCKING DENIED INITIATE IN MY DMS ARGUING ABOUT MY FUCKING DOX

01:30

IM LIVID

01:31

WE LET THEM AT THE LODGES THEY FIGHT AROUND US THEY GET AHOLD OF OUR CONVERSATIONS

01:31

WHAT EVEN IS WITH THE SECRETS IN THE GROUP ANYMORE

wait since when are guests allowed at lodges

since we started playing on constantiam

01:32

exclusively

what the H

we didnt do this shit on 2b

da fucking shit?

tbh I kind of like it

01:32

I can explain why if you'd like

Its a mess

01:33

Should not be allowed

01:33

Nor should anything leave the meeting

no but who the fuck thinks it's smart to leak this? there is a reason this isnt discussed on the reddit

01:33

ffs

I'd like to hear the explanation, I dunno any reason why we'd allow guests to visit lodges

Conversations included i shouldnt have jumpy pissed at me in my fucking dms for a vote

at the VERY LEAST wait until meetings are over

I took a vow of ~~secretary~~ secrecy

bro having guests at lodges has been like the best thing

07:11

it gives us a chance to see how determined they are and how they build

07:12

and no strings attached to the lodge since we usually blown it up a ways

@Брат Bird @SonEasterZombie I can sum up the guests at the lodges in one word: Activity

this

Hosting lodges on Constantiam is a very VERY new thing. I think we've only done it for 4 weekends in a row now.

07:20

The guests at lodge business is equally as new. It has only happened on constantiam for the past 4 weeks

What I saw and heard of it, it seemed great with the guests yes

At first, we were saying "this is a temporary measure", saying that we are only hosting lodges on constantiam until queue on 2b2t dies down

we've had guest at lodges in the past

07:21

ie jumpy

But over the past few weeks, hosting lodges on Constantiam has started to become a more and more attractive option for a few reasons:

funny people who aren't at lodges care who's at lodges hehehe

The absolute biggest reason to hold lodges on Constantiam is that everyone can play. It absolutely maximizes the amount of people that can show up to lodges ingame

07:22

I think everyone here would agree, even SEZ and Nick, that having more people at a lodge / meeting is more fun and therefore a good thing

07:23

However I do understand the argument of "They are not Spawnmasons, why are they here" (edited)

07:23

My response to that is, What is it you guys want to do every Saturday?

07:24

Do you guys really just want to show up and talk about the agenda for 30 mins, argue, and then leave?

I think that argument would only be something if it is a nice big base

07:24

as ufo said

07:24

we blow up the lodges anyway

No, we want to have a fun fucking time on block game on saturdays

Yus!

07:24

Ufo said that too

this meeting was so fun

recently, people have been showing up at lodges an entire 2 hours before meetings to dick around, guests included

I will have to join meetings again

07:25

missing out

this is unheard of

07:25

people showing up 2 hours beforehand to actually play the game is unheard of in the past year (edited)

best meetings since ufo has been worshipful

You definitely get shit done

07:25

and motivate people to get shit done

yeah @brother terbin ur really missing out

BROTHER!

UwU

07:25

UWWWWU

owo

UwU

❤

Yes these Constantiam meetings have actually been some of the best we've had in a long time

most recent release of impact installer is 0.3.0 so i called it 0.3.0 whats this

agreed

next week on consta again?

probably

07:26

easier to get on rmb

unless every brother pays $20, yes

rn

ye

07:27

let's have fun

To go back to the topic and address SEZ and Nick's concern about why these guests are here, they are really contributing to the great times we've had on Constantiam recently. Without them we would just be holding boring dry meetings, adjourning, then leaving

1

I more had a problem with jumpy reciting half the meeting to me in my DMS

This also might sound a bit shallow, but the sheer numbers of people we have been gathering ingame is pretty impressive (edited)

nothing is secret anymore

You and jumpy seem to have beef with eachother and it seems to be spilling over into spawnmasons in general

This is incorrect

how would he know half the meet g

Just dont want shit getting leaked

07:30

Whats next a base

he was I'm vc with us for like 5 seconds

the jumpy problem isnt even about nick. He was upset that he got voted no to be initiate and threw a fit

07:31

which imo, further cements his position to not be a spawnmason if hes just going to cause issues like this

07:31

he wanted to know why he got voted no to be initiate when no one else had

Remember we invited Jumpy and Emperor to the Mason spawn thing a while ago underground and it was greifed within a week

and the best thing he could point to was nick

He is way to involved in all the faction drama, he would never pass a vote

remember when emperium was framed for griefing club 33

Alright so who really did it huh

yea that's a good question

probably frankfurt

this tbh

"probably"

the biggest anti-emperium whiner the spawnmasons have ever produced

oh and you know it was jumpy and emp?

I highly doubt that

or was it Probably them

so far we haven't invited jumpy to any bases since I joined. he has supported us again and again, while being annoying he is also helpful

07:34

(wouldn't invite him to my base though)

Jumpy simply wants his dick in every group

ye

im making a jumpy spawnmason base with no nick xd

ahahaha

Have fun youre not coming to Base base

lol

based base

well youre not coming to base Base base

Fair enough

Space Base Base

TODARAC

07:35

YOUVE SAID TOO MUCH

sorry

07:35

its like Base Base but in Space

When you built 70% of space base and you dont get invited to the reunion

07:36

I personally cant wait to vote no on both jumpy and phoenix

07:37

One was given initiate bcs of penis (edited)

Finally i agree with Dielo

And one as a technicality

Jumpy, bringing the people together

07:38

this is jumpy

i cant wait to vote no on phoenix and yes on jumpy

I cant wait to kick Ufo out of the spawnmasons

I can't wait to wait

07:40

jk love u nick

POWER

Im texting hermeticlock

07:41

Im steaming

07:41

lmfaoo

I remember back in the golden days

09:32

We would come to lodge 9 hours before

09:33

And stay the whole damn time

09:33

And keep adding to it

to hours is a good start

I came on five minutes before today. catsunglasses

:)

We really need the music discs

01:13

poor guy lost a lot of maps today lol

hari is awesome

I have very limited experience with hari, only seen what he chats in the emperium discord but he seems really immature

03:10

is he not?

i wouldnt say "really" immature

hes cool. but is always asking to get invited to bases and groups

03:21

why is phoenix an initiate?

Hari seems like a good candidate, given that he's active, personable and seems pretty mature. I don't know anything about map art community politics; is he as esteemed as he suggests? If so, seems like a strong choice. As far as Phoenix, has she filled out an application yet? I am unaware of any individual feats on her part. There are mixed accounts of her participation level at Emperium bases, in the Purge, etc. There is her ability to befriend PoliceMike and BabbaJ individually, which is interesting. Based off of what limited information I have seen or heard I would have to say she is a weaker candidate than Zetlin, however. (edited)

Phoenix: The Babbage Tamer

Unpopular opinion: Literally no more emperium

hari is a bit on the youngish and immature/fanboy side imo, the only way he stood out for me so far was that I noticed him being like the first candidate who keeps openly questioning the initiation process and why A got initiate and why B didnt etc

08:22

phoenix is literally the newest 2b player in this discord by far, hasnt filled out the application and all though I enjoy her enthusiasm lets not pretend she got initiate for any other reason than horny bois vouches

08:22

also

08:23

anyone with Finstaaa follower in their username should be kicked immediately

08:23

not even joking

I'm about 90% certain that's a joke dielo

idc

imagine being banned for having a shit taste in humor

I also have to touch on if not fully agree with nick's point...like 80% of the recent initiates(and guests waiting to get initiate) are emperium including hari, phoenix, charlie, biggus dickus, zetlin and of course jumpy(inferno as well, even though he was voco up until recent events but I didnt see a mention of him being anything other than a guest here so not counting him into this) (edited)

is aaron emp?

my bad, mobile really blends the rank colors

11:59

he is ally

im banned from emperium so idk

11:59

ah

edited^

let the system work

zetlin and hari were in here before they were in emperium

12:06

they just go where they can do stuff lol

and emperor tries to grab any useful people

12:07

so makes sense

also hari should not be blamed for complaining that phoenix got initiate while he didnt because we declined vouches because it would be the same result as zetlin before him but then herm says we should just let the vouch for phoenix happen this meeting and babbaj questioned the role of initiate which was kinda becoming weird till later saturday we agreed its not fair to treat them different and passed all vouches so he was completely in his right to complain (edited)

hari should not be complaining, I agree

12:30

but hari says whatever hari thinks :)

thats not what i said

ah

12:30

regardless

12:30

I think he should not complain

did you read what i typed lol

now I did

12:31

I was writing while you edited and added

12:31

still don't think hari should complain

12:31

but its also no big deal

it is a big deal if we deny jordans vouch but allow babbas vouch lol

12:32

doesnt make any sense

that is true

12:35

I like dielo

Im not arguing that his complaint wasnt objectively right, I just think it wasnt his place to make it....or maybe I just dislike newcomers to question these kinds of things in a public way

12:36

makes them seem whiny and needy

what I felt ye

12:36

but

12:36

then imagine Hari in his voice in VC

12:36

makes it different a bit I feel :)

I guess

12:37

Im just imagining it from the viewpoint of being a guest and pointing out shit to the people who I want to be accepted by etc, I personally wouldnt "dare" that (edited)

Taming babbaj is quite a feat

maybe he is insiding her?

4

1

Who knows

12:44

Only the man himself lol

@Brother Dielo

phoenix joined like 2 years ago

lies

Lies

they joined the future discord 1 year ago....

16:47

so its still more then 1 year ago

been under a rock all that time or

just bcs they use future doesnt automatically mean they have been using it on 2b, does it?

very likely though lol

doubt

17:21

i can find logs of them being on constantiam almost a year ago

bro are you white knighting Phoenix xd

phoenix is the #1 emperium insider

im gonna invite all the egirls i can find

cringe

why is that cringe?

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/PhoenixArtworks/discussions/0/133259227530117922/

Artwork Portfolio :: Phoenix's Artworks

What do I use? - Adobe Photoshop, Adober After Effects, and Adobe Premire. Can you do work for me? - Not yet, I'm still working up to it, but hopefully soon! 01/08/19 UPDATE = Setting up a system with paypal and soon will set prices for commisions. No set date but sit tight...

17:28

animated weeb shit.....

now thats cringe

....the newest 2b player ... @een snail from palestine not consta (edited)

cringe comment above

cringe Mason above

insulting another brother = harming another brother

17:42

demote plz

yea we should demote 0x ur right (edited)

yeah I would say that most of the recent people to come into this discord being emperium is just a natural consequence of emperium being the largest "serious" group, meaning a group that people would actually stay in for a long period of time

20:16

so most of the people in any faction that would possibly be considered for mason are in emperium

or emperor is pulling the most ambitious takeover in 2b history kek

mike used to be both worshipful and inner council in emperium

̶e̶̶m̶̶p̶̶i̶̶r̶̶i̶̶u̶̶m̶̶ ̶̶i̶̶s̶̶n̶̶t̶̶ ̶̶t̶̶a̶̶k̶̶i̶̶n̶̶g̶̶ ̶̶o̶̶v̶̶e̶̶r̶̶ ̶̶t̶̶h̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶m̶̶a̶̶s̶̶o̶̶n̶̶s̶̶.̶̶ ̶̶t̶̶h̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶g̶̶e̶̶r̶̶m̶̶a̶̶n̶̶s̶̶ ̶̶a̶̶r̶̶e̶

true

21:40

and the fucking aussies

Guys we can easily flip this Emperium business on its head

21:40

By stating that all Emperium ranks above Gamma must leave the Emperium to join the masons

21:41

that way, we are stealing top members from emperium directly

what about emperor?

ahahahahah

21:41

great question

21:41

okay he's grandfathered in

21:41

got in before the rule was introduced

emperor is only sigma tho

i like how todarac is gamma and tailors this rule to fuck everyone except himself

21:42

:)

no it just means

21:43

(well yes)

21:43

it just means that if you are above gamma, you have to be demoted back to gamma

21:43

which is the highest acceptable rank for any mason to be in there imo

21:44

I would say Sigma, but that is the "literal who" category

21:44

dont recognize anyone in there

gamma is literal who rn

yes most of them are admitedly

21:45

but it feels like hardly part of emperium

21:45

which I like

21:45

I expressly told emperor never to promote me

It does seem appropriate that potentially conflicting allegiances would be limited.

zeta is the new gamma imo

lol this would cause only drama and conflict forcing people to choose

that's the point

2

spawnmasons or emp

1

21:46

pick one (edited)

1

its perfectly fine to pick emperium

21:46

it just means you cant be in the masons!

21:47

Im a little upset that the people who crystal'd our last meeting were using emperium voice chat to talk

21:47

and the video they uploaded shows them in emperium

Dabigbullet and Eclipson are both emperium allies

21:48

but "ally" is a really loose term in the emperium discord

yeah.... i am ally too... it really doesnt mean too much

what does it mean literally besides it just being a role

it means they can take screenshots of general and report back to their respective groups

lmfao

I'm pretty sure ally is just the default rank you get if you aren't a member but are in the discord

dunno about eclipcen but bulletz is highland ofcourse

basically if you are slightly fun to have around then you get ally

emp already told me they he would kick them

and I think eclipsen is a constantiam spawnfag

it literally means nothing tho

both of them

wiilll he tho

Im patiently waiting this justice to be done

we will see

I will be very cross with him otherwise

I can see him removing eclipsen but not bullet

jumpys gonna rage

prolly.

jumpy can suck my balls and be thankful he doesnt get kicked for his constant disrespectful nature and leaky whore mouth

dielo is raging

nah

but in all seriousness it is pretty surprising that jumpy has made it as far as he has

i mean.... lets see how much he rages if he gets rejected again

imagine being a member of emperium (edited)

just wanted to really bring the point across with a very strict wording

I think 90% of the reason he's been promoted so far is cuz he is incredibly active

(note, that i said if, not when, leaving open the possibility that he'll pass)

if you aren't banned from emperium you can't be in sm

I won't give him the courtesy

21:54

he won't pass

Im also pretty sure he wont pass

if he does then i'll rage

21:54

I don't dislike jumpy, but he is a HORRIBLE fit for the masons

3

he's perfect right were he is, pvping in emperium with all the crystalfaggots and hanging out as guest here

tbh, this is my opinion too

21:55

he is fine with the military.

kek

Same. It's still worth running through the process so we can verbalize what specifically disqualifies him and where he can improve. As well as to compare where he stood previously with where he stands now. (edited)

he can improve by aging 2 to 4 years

3

21:56

that's really it

21:56

he's gotten consistently more mature over the last 2 years

21:57

but he still isn't there yet

this

sadly I agree

feels bad when hes so active and helping us out so much

22:00

he is an incredible ally to have and i dont want him to start disliking us

22:00

but

22:00

ye

if he didn't start to dislike us after the first 5 times, what would make him start now

making him initiate and getting rejected again?

22:03

getting his hopes up just made him more cocky

22:03

twice the pride, double the fall

why the fuck did he get his hopes up

22:05

who told him he had a chance

I dont htink anyone in particular told him he had a chance tbh

the only reason he got initiate was because he wasn't willing to admit that he had no chance

Jumpy just isn’t ready for us yet. (edited)

we literally told him he's not gonna pass

unconditionally punishing playing with other groups is really stupid though we by definition pull people from other groups to become a member of ours it would be really gay to start forcing them to abandon theirs and if theyre in a faction noone likes like highland then theyre never gonna get in in the first place

Emperium commit plane crash

no no, its not all groups

22:16

people can stay in their respective groups

22:16

just emperium members have to leave

22:16

(I'm actually kidding btw)

hehe

22:16

but just imagine how the various channels would blow up with activity after this kind of announcement

I wish we could do this for april fools

Back to the roots

22:17

No other groups

it would be a marvelous shitstorm

Keep it 100

ONLY LOYALTY TO THE SPAWNMASON MACHINE

22:17

that pic needs to be updated

its still surprisingly accurate

not really

if nothing else than adding baritone creator as memberto god emperor spawnmasons

needs to include "impact and baritone" devs

the 1 "bad thing" that was added to the chad society isn't true anymore

other than that, VERY acCURATE (edited)

also I think the "more oldfags than newfags" is wrong too

kick all newfags except me

22:20

;p

as long as people THINK its mostly oldfags

true true

even though if its not, you know, objectively true

also 100% of society leadership doesn't like men anymore

definitely more true than for other fagtions

i'm pretty sure iron is straight

god damn it

I love the "snitches to fbi" thing for emperium

its funny becaus its true

So true

yesss more "spawnmason only" memes

This

I meant the fbi thing

22:23

but also fits the your meme ofc

Ebin meme bird

07:27

Damn todarac

07:27

I'm proud to be a mason, the kings of meme and Minecraft

Phoenix is actually not that bad, when she stops her little girl giggle shit (edited)

19:44

Think we should speak to her more before we dismiss it outright

app came in yestarday

19:47

19:49

shes nice in voice and all but her documented history with the server starts two months ago

"i change my name a lot so that's why my IGN isn't familiar"

19:50

what is her other IGN's?

let's ask her

the account itself is old enough

19:51

shame we cant somehow check the server history lel

i dont have an issue with believing that she joined when she said but if you dont do anything documented and nobody knows you then are you really a part

19:53

fits

not usre if its relevant but you should check out emperium general from yesterday when like 200+ message discussio was going on with and about phoenix and all a bunch of emperium people

20:07

sheds an interesting light not only on her but on several people that are currently trying to get into the masons, e.g. zeitlin, biggus, charlie + some tards like bulletz and finstaa (edited)

20:07

and jumpy of course

is it a mass insiding or something?

20:08

im not in there so idk

a lot of emperium people are mad about phoenix getting fast rankups because shes female

20:09

and theyre kinda raging on it there lol

oh lmao

20:09

jesus that reminds me that i need to make a female runescape account for free stuff

20:10

or create fake female accounts on chat platforms to extort random perverts hahaha

20:10

tbh easy money

a lot of emperium people - basic tards + bulletz

20:11

Im trying to be very objective here and not come over as a white knight, but from what I see, they are just hounding her bcs she's a girl and thats an easy "excuse" for them to use in every way possible

well i mean i can understand their frustrations

20:13

these incels that havent stepped beyond the boundaries of their moms basement never felt some kind of connection with a female so they try to make contact with this unknown lifeform

20:14

thus angering some people that strife for true equality

whose the dude?

can't tell

ghay

yea

Im pretty sure it was hari

20:16

he keeps questioning the initiation process all the time

i mean she did get initiate pretty quickly

20:16

so highly understandable

So while Hari was feeling unfairly treated (and I'm sure he mentioned in voice with the way he speaks)

20:16

it was not hari

20:16

is he even an emperium member?

no

20:16

but he is in here lol

ye but this was an emperium dude as you can see from the text

20:17

anyway

so how does a random emp dude know who gets initiate over here?

most worshipfuls are emperium dudes

20:17

many others too (edited)

@WarLordN1k your name was mentioned in the emp convo dude, something along the lines of "warlord had you pegged from the start"

20:18

can you elaborate on that pls?

20:20

just to be clear anar, she didnt get initiate "quickly", all anyone has to do to get initiate is to get two vouches during a meeting so you can potentially become initiate literally on the same day you join this discord as guest if that day is saturday

20:20

she has to stay initiate for a month like everyone else

20:22

Im just wondering why the same people that are bitching about her getting delta in emp(as if that rank was by any means "important" nowadays) dont bitch about her initiate here in the mason discord

20:22

acting nice to get good boi points while being toxic child tards in other discords

aaah i see

20:25

ye the initiate thingy has always been kinda unclear up untill lately so still gotta get used to it

has it changed? (edited)

20:25

when I joined it was also about vouching I think

it was different a longer time ago afaik

probably

20:26

maybe im confused bc at some point we deciced to top recruiting

ah we never really did

20:27

there were voices to do that

20:27

but no decision was made

atleast tone down on the amount cause there were alot coming in at the time

it was voiced by others that recruitment was so slow anyway, that nothing needed to be done

20:27

and to be honest

20:27

we got some nice people in since

20:27

ye

20:27

but I feel we are on a good road.

lol the "dude" must be jumpy

20:39

only thing saying its not is i don't think jumpy would use the word "shtick"

I wrote this down by hand from the original text

20:40

might be my mistake

20:40

the spelling ones

im talking about the words , the spelling mistakes mean nothing (edited)

While I do understand protecting your sources in general, I dont honestly get why we cant know who raised this particular concern

20:43

anything that starts with "jsut curious" is for sure NOT just out of curiosity so this person isnt only emp but almost a 100% certain a mason guest/initiate

or jumpy said 5 words about phoenix getting initiate in their vc and it could be literally anyone

ye, literally anyone dm's terbin about this kind of stuff...

I get way too many dms

Is Phoenix actually being considered seriously for iniation?

two people vouched thats all it needs right now

I asked Babbaj, he is serious about the nomination

I know people vouched but i meant everyone else

as I said, she seems technically knowledgeable about the game and its exploits also when she is not in a big group, she is quite agreeable.

we got too many inactive SpawnMason rank holders

Just wanted to say, we never stop recruiting. If people become our friends then they should become masons too.

21:34

Maybe we’re not actively looking

21:35

But that doesn’t mean there isn’t space to have new friends.

21:35

(((My opinion don’t plz no hurt me))) (edited)

I just dont want 200 members in general (becoming another large amorphous blob of a group) so the only reasonable solution for me is to raise standards (edited)

I tend to agree

21:38

I’m very firm on sniper not being in here too

21:38

He’s better for respect club

21:38

Along with a John unless we seriously would make John a mason. (I would vouch)

we can totally go over the list of guests during the next meeting, the list has gotten a bit bloated

And who’s jazzy

no idea

random etikafag

21:40

cant remember who brought him in

He needs to boost if he wants to stay

21:40

(Home)

21:40

(Joke*)

I kicked zippie the other day on a whim (edited)

21:41

Guy hasn't talked in general in weeks

oh ye now I know, kyle brought jazzy in (edited)

can worshipful still just ban any intiate

22:35

like can't ban brother

22:35

can ban a guest

22:35

can maybe just ban a phoniex?

would be quite unrespectful

lol

dude: Hey dielo me: yo dude, waddup? dude: Yo ik ur not supposed to say but how are my votes in applicant council looking me: I dont think we spoke about you in there yet tbh

22:51

Im like 99% sure my dude is the same as terbin's dude

Imagine not thinking that you will likely be disqualified for repeatedly asking about it.

23:03

Wait, one of Phoenix's old names is Lexi_Bird?

ye

Sounds familiar. Probably a coincidence, though.

that was 2016

23:11

https://namemc.com/profile/Phoenix19.4

Phoenix19 - Minecraft Profile

Check the availability of Minecraft names, look up the name history of Minecraft accounts, view Minecraft skins in 3D, convert UUIDs, and much more!

there was a Lex I remember, Im kinda sure she was emperium but that is some time ago

23:12

someone ask jumpy in vc for a lex if he remembers (edited)

Jazzy is a swell dude, but if he doesn't ever vc within like the week, kick him for all I care

he was in vc today hes a real newfag :p

he was in vc yesterday too

ok cool

jumpy is cool

much cool

jazzy in vc

Im pretty sure he isnt up for initiate or anything, kyle jsut brought him in as guest

If ya'll are trying to get a picture of who Giggs is for voting, catch this intro https://youtu.be/UI6a5Xo9s0g

Madam Giggles

Constantiam Base Tour - George Murray's Base

Id like to do the thing for Nekramite @SpawnMason please give your opinion https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353423878137315329/597191446444900353/unknown.png?width=594&height=676

23:27

He has had quite some time on the server, seems a stable player He builds fine but not insane as far as i know (looking at the lodges he came to over the weeks) Hes more into these big incursion ish / technical projects and hes been a long time south canal corp member Hes been in voice pretty often, quite silent when playing but does talk if you push him a little Several people in here have very good connections with the guy and would trust him Hes often online on both 2b and consta and i really think he would regularly come to meeting and other things yes, he is in emperium but i totally wouldnt consider him a fag i think hes capable and meets our requirements, the only thing left is that the people here need to want him in our group (edited)

23:27

Don't know him, but thats a solid app if I've ever seen one

23:31

Seems to enjoy the game for the reasons we do and can communicate effectively

(i also really want some people in that play the fucking game)

yea

Seems good

nekramite has a kit I have and now I hate him for trading it

I already vouched for him so I will just add that he's reliable, non retard and has been around since rusher as well as participating in almost every major project including the obi sky, the WALL, both 6th and 7th incursions, SIG and border miners team etc, a clear yes vote, period

Yea that kit thing wasn’t nekramites fault though

yea not his fault at all

14:10

I still like him

does nobody have anything to add or does nobody care

i would add something if i knew him a bit better, but all i know about him has already been said.

I would like to invite Wailn as a guest, he is one of the most dedicated players I know. @Brother Scribble he is australian

19:17

He comes with high praise form xcc2 as well

19:18

he singlehandedly rebuilt the prismarine castle

19:18

he is very humble

19:18

can I get a second plz?

second.

Herm

19:19

canI get a second for OverFloyd as well?

i can

thank you

MadamGiggles @SpawnMason https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353423878137315329/597191377771561000/unknown.png

1

awesome

Shes nice and has joined us at constantiam a few times but i haven't felt her really get close to the group (but im not in american time so correct me if you disagree) i feel like she would be good as guest right now

3

no yes vote until she tells us her age!!

4

2

Most excellent. Perhaps one of the more interesting parts of stumbling into Constantiam was meeting her. Hope to build and chat more with her in the future. And never ask a lady her age, Todarac, geez. Next you'll be asking her weight.

She's cool but she only plays constantiam and constantiam is gross so its a no for me

somebody screenshot that and send it to her

1

1

Im giggling like an idiot. Sorry lmao

she is branching out to 2b

21:27

stand by for 2b vid on her channel

Does anyone here actually think she will show up to meetings or in voice? or be active at all? thats THE deciding factor for me (edited)

were looking for people that join us in what we do AND are exceptional players and were not supposed to let in someone every week or the group would get too big i think we have people that qualify to these more

Todarac on trial for asking Giggles if she's a thicc old lady.

second

ive actually only met giggles in voice once and that was 3 weeks ago

listen I would vote yes because she was vice president of constantiam

1

Ill tell her now what we expect

but it might be a barrendome situation or salc1 situation

sure

i thought she was president

no longer

yeah

I've encountered her a few times. I would like to see more of her before raising her beyond initiate, though.

Spartan512 as president and MadamGiggles as vice president last year

21:30

https://www.reddit.com/r/constantiam/comments/c77m1g/presidential_resignation/

r/constantiam - Presidential Resignation

21 votes and 13 comments so far on Reddit

21:30

oh wow

21:30

she was president for a couple weeks

21:31

and then Nyroc was voted in a week later

>president

21:31

how does this mean anything

its a cute thing constantiam does

means she's good at rp like us

1

heh

constantiam > 2b, vines > leather

21:34

can't change these facts

yes and ladders > vines

blocked

i agree t ha t vines > leather tho

lol

all seriousness, if giggs is actually making the jump to 2b, it's def worth looking into

she's not

I dunno if she is

21:36

she is doing a 2b video

we just play on const now too

true

as long as spawn masons is a 2b le faction, consatntiam only members are an odd fit

voco was on 2b and const

well

21:38

she's one of the only players who organizes serverwide events on const

21:38

led numerous holiday bases

anyway she wants to join saturday meetings

21:38

even though it is 6:30 am for her

21:39

I think that means something

I feel like the question is do we want to be a "legendary" secret group on 2b with clout and doing things no other group could accomplish or do we want to be a larger and more than just 2b group just having fun with lodges and playing minecraft together and talking. Not just with the Giggles but with other initiates and the 1°s saying "its not what we used to be"

We are probably 20% the former and 80% the latter

22:16

at the end of the day if we are not having fun as a group, then wtf are we doing here. At the same time I like the exclusivitiy and the reputation we have on the server. It sounds a bit shallow to say out loud but we definitely are the cloutful legendary secret group from an outside point of view

2

With queue how it is and mist people's motivation currently it's not very possible to be much more than 20%-80%

I would just like to disagree with Todarac, not about anything in particular or at all really. Hope everyone else is having a great day.

2

I can’t vote yes on someone that isn’t a 2b2t player/exploiter of some kind in good faith.

1

2b2t exploiter

‘Of some kind’

22:54

22:54

Even indirectly

he has prio from time to time

Hmm. The question if we want giggles in isnt so much about if we want her in, it's rather "do we want to branch out to constantiam" because she has done stuff it seems and would fit in with the masons, but we should really only vote yes on her if we want to branch out to multiple servers. So the question i would want to have answered to really decide my vote is: constantiam branch yes or no?

4

1

what constitutes a const branch to you

For me that would mean staying for good. Being active on both servers. Not my dream tho. Spawnmasons are a 2b player group imo. This would open tge door to more dedicated contantiam only players, so that we'd basically have parts of botg playerbases and not only 2b focussed players.

Maybe i'd better call it 'expand to constantiam' ratger than branch

2

I think that we should remain centered on 2b. However, we do have to acknowledge that Constantiam has been a useful resource, permitting all of us to join up for meetings with or without prio queue in spite of summer and hype augmented queue. I would say, yes to Giggles, so long as she is willing to periodically visit us on 2b just as we have visited her.

I heard we are doing an end base on constantiam

17:40

is that not expanding?

17:40

also we did our lodges there - so why not

17:40

But I agree with lamp

17:40

constantiam is disgusting

17:41

the lag is terrible and has been there like this for many moths

17:41

James doesn't care it seems :)

lol

We are first and foremost a group focused primarily on 2b2t. However if people want to be active in the group without paying $20, thats cool. Its a good alternative.

17:47

I am not anywhere near finished with 2b2t tho and neither is the spawnmasons for that matter. I personally dont like the idea of being 100% constantiam

17:48

and - friendly reminder - the next lodge is on 2b. As much as I hate to promote this, shill $20 to hause to have an easier time attending (edited)

I agree with you Comrade

17:49

but not all masons have the resources

17:49

So I am happy that we don't lose people

17:49

and can also play on constantiam

17:49

we mostly hang out in discord anyway

17:49

So if we build more this way - why not

but we are 2b2t

I will not be attending any meetings on 2b until at least the end of the summer

would you attend constantiam meetings?

ye hes just mad at the queue and too busy to wait for it every time

^this

relatable

ye

19:26

so your answer to my question would be "yes"

yes

:)

I will not be attending any meetings on 2b until at least the end of the summer what changes at the end of the summer? (edited)

can't sail so much

why were some of the initiates kicked/left today? and even hanscor who was a brother already

people from emp are getting flagged and account disabled

oof, rip

Ouch

Are voco people that insecure that they need to get peoples discord accounts banned over something in a block game thats only loosely connected to the people they get banned? (edited)

yes

theyre basically holding a TOS war now

22:15

im glad were not involved lo

all because some spawnfags killed some other spawnfags

Breithan they almost got my account termed too for association with milse

lmao

who be ~cocoa~chan~?

00:40

could be nice to havae the vouches in here for transprency

#general-20190912

ah damn the emperium thing

00:52

how did that happen?

theyve been doing shit to each other for a good while now

00:53

trying to get each others discord / accounts banned (edited)

who is the other side?

voco

i guess with giggles im just afraid shes not gonna really participate she can say she will join meetings (but everyone says that to then maybe do it) but if we never see her except at the meeting theres no point im afraid of situations like Sal really but please disagree if you disagree i have no idea if shes in voice when im not here

I haven't seen her in voice at non-meeting times

19:15

but

I liked her vid about the lodge. but yea Im also against branching out to constantiam

a few meetings ago the gist was that were not gonna exclude people that solely play on constantiam, but they better make up for it in other qualities

2

oh right

too early for me to vote on giggles

21:35

if forced to vote now, I would vote no

second chances are a thing

also application just came in july 29.

21:36

that is way to short

?

4 days ago

21:37

you posted the application here

21:37

now we vote

21:37

doesnt it take a bit more usually?

21:37

than 4 days from application to vote

oh

21:37

but we were not aware

she has been here for more than a month

were we?

ok

21:38

well

21:38

anyway

21:38

she hasnt been in voice

21:38

ye she has been in the discord

21:38

but I was only aware of her application since entropy posted it on the 29.

21:38

must have overlooked

21:38

my bad

21:39

ye

21:39

was posted july 7.

21:39

me raging for no reason, sorry

all good i try to repost when asking final thoughts because people seem to forget about everything they said a whole month earlier (edited)

:)

21:40

I like that

https://www.reddit.com/r/2b2t/comments/cgk7ad/rip_valerian_sneak_peek/euj97fl/

Brother Entropy 01/08/2019 21:49

Brother Entropy 01/08/2019 21:50

Cool guy

Charlie is lit

charlie's the shit

Charlie is an excellent choice.

Charlie man good

Didn’t even put my name down for people he knows

20:38

Smh

Charlie man good +1

i vote yes on this

3

I love you to lamp

Gin

And tonic

supersonic

smib all night and smoke the chronic

22:31

this has been: slam poetry with the masons

Hi Todarac, I heard jared said your recent builds are wack. you yourself told me that. And you bein here talking about crack, ready to attack but how about your own back? Also what's the deal with the hat? snap (edited)

crap

Lets do jumpy @SpawnMason hes been very active and helped us out on several occasions i really think he deserves to be in but if the objections havent changed theres a lot of people not trusting him to be secretive about anything and then ill gladly keep him as our honoured guest

2

lol?

19:56

yeah guys lets do jumpy after denied 30 times

this is how i ask for everyones opinion ox

I think he is way to enthusiastically involved in faction drama to join - at this time

19:57

but I would love to keep him as a guest

He's been a swell lad to me. If anyone has had him betray their trust, I'd be like to hear

He did not, as far as I know. But whenever he joins VC he speaks bout this dupe stash being blown up

19:58

this group being insided

psure people said emperor does not really trust him ?

him being on the way to blow up a dupe stash

19:59

doxes

19:59

people being banned

19:59

asking to join discord raidings

19:59

and the such

thats a ncie way to get banned for breaking discord tos

If we look at what's happening to the emperium members in here who rejoined recently because their discord accounts got banned - and there are a lot more out there - I think we have to ask ourselves. Do we want this crap to spill over into here more?

20:00

It's fun for some

20:01

I prefer stability

I dont have anything against jumpy but i would definitely lean towardsnot having him be initiated.

20:03

For the same reasons above.

no offence to jumpy but terbin summed him up pretty well lol

We should be focusing on rusher lowkey

1

im just going though the process for the people that were given initiate a month ago lol

I will just repeat the same as a month ago - jumpy is just right where he currently is, emperium and guest, anything else would be asking for some shit to hit the fan

smib

One interesting option, given that there's been some drama over people with dual Mason/Emperium memberships, is seeing if he would quit Emperium to join the Masons. For better or worse this would waste his and our time for reasons stated above. A perceived tendency to leak and a threat to stability. Jumpy is a great guy but most here are more comfortable with him as an ambassador and friend than initiated Mason.

I don't think it is so much about him being a member of emperium as it is about him being so heavily and happily involved in all the faction rivalries and subsequent stash/discord takedowns and doxxing (edited)

2

21:18

at least that's what's always being talked about

21:19

from his side

asking people to leave their faction to prove their loyalty would be plain wrong lol we consider the initiate as he is

I vouch for TheCampingRusher

2

8

same

01:30

and for jumpy, used to love and support him but he blew up shiro stash cause hur dur voco drama even though shiro dupe stash owned by golden and cone who are in voco they were using it to sell for shiro

01:30

and for that reason it's gonna be a

from me

That's all I needed to hear

OMG jumpy he is a kid and has a bad habbit of taliking about shit he should not.... so no

05:53

@Brother Entropy

05:53

also i am not dead just look like it

Honestly, I dont see the big deal with letting jumpy in. After all these times I really think it would be good to say yes. He just wants to hang with us. He has the background on the server and that's what is meant to matter. If you say no, after vouch for him again, i seriously doubt he will think of us the same way. I would be a yes because I don't think he would screw us over as a group, sure he is into faction drama, but maybe just ask if he would agree to leave all that at the door and in other discords rather than saying no straight up. Many people in here have been involved in factions and groups on the server in the past and we all seem to get along for the most part. Again, he just wants to hang with us like he has for a long time already, just from inside the group rather than as a permanent visitor. But those are just my two cents for the app committee to think over.

12:16

Also warlord man, saying he is just a kid doesn't mean much, not to seem like i'm only attacking you but it's a common statement. there are plenty of younger people that are completely trustworthy.

based on his posts in general and his talks in the vc, I 'd say he's completely incapable of leaving anything "at the door"

we could always ask though.

12:17

if it was a condition of entry i think he would be for it.

well but of course he would say "yes" if you'd ask him

i mean what really is the concern? he is going to raid our stashes and dox us?

12:18

i dont think he would

12:18

and we dont do that shit

12:18

so there is nothing for him to join in on or escalate

12:20

app committee, from my understanding, voted on what the group as a whole thinks rather than personal preference. I just wanted to provide some reasons why we should say yes.

12:21

if it's no though, we really need to stop messing with him like this.

I think a lot of us have said reasons why we would say yes, we like talking to him etc, but the no-reasons just outweigh the yes reasons

i'll read again but what was the reasons for no. just faction stuff and account terminations?

12:23

seems like that is it yeah. he is into factions and doxxing. (edited)

12:23

first is eh. second a big red flag.

12:24

so are we afraid he will dox us or something along these lines?

my main point is his innate untrustworthiness, he just cant keep his mouth shut, not even maliciously, he just cant help himself(and this is me speaking as someone who has known him since 2017 while we were both highland)

For sure, I definitely value your opinion Dielo man, I think your a good dude and I dont want to seem contrarian like i seem to so often. I can only speak for my interaction and after all the times people have vouched for him it would be good to say yes. You guys have known him longer and on a wider range of occasions but I think I would be doing a buddy a disservice not speaking for him, just like I would for any one of you dudes or dudettes

no hard feelings brah, I totally get where you're coming from and I DO feel bad about giving him all these "false hopes" over and over again, thats why I was against him getting even initiate this last time around but since he legitimately got it, I have to hammer on the no vote yet again

I can appreciate that and well said. Maybe Todarac's veto idea in lodge votes should be revisited.

12:57

looks like the vote flipped after the meeting anyway

13:01

we voted no based on letting the current system run it's course. but it would make a lot of sense now. If four masons dont want to let you in you will more likely than not fail in your vote and if you do get in, its possible that those tensions will only tear the group up internally.

we knew how this voting round was going to end right at the capital i dont like to put unnecessary strain on people like this were gonna see what effect vetoing has the next weeks and hopefully people dont make stupid vouches and we wont ever need to do it

i often explain the initiate why the vote didnt pass and what the major things against were i hope he will take peace with what you sent him trbn

I have also explained my decision. Thank you for clarifying that is not unorthodox behavior. And I see what you originally meant, Entropy.

Phoenix @SpawnMason https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353423878137315329/598586217822683176/unknown.png?width=596&height=676

10:51

shes been doing effort but im not really convinced by her accomplishments on the server

10:54

(this is the last one from the initiate explosion at the capital, i am sorry for the regular pings over this)

Not too much interaction either. Atm I would vote no

I think she's fine, I havent spoken to her but her app looks good

11:14

I agree with terbins opinion on her lack of interaction

guest for now, may apply in the future, dont feel like I saw enough activity and interaction, agreed

Agreed. I think she has a lot of potential. Unfortunately I've never seen any builds by her and she has trouble maintaining the fidelity of her comrades with Emperium. This indicates to me that she's not ready to join the Masons.

i can only agree with what has been said about phoenix so far.

yes from me

nice meme

It’s a trap

bigot above

lol shes been a ghost in here since she got initiate

500 iq (edited)

nick is a nazi have u seen the pic of him with his nazi flag

i heard hitler was nicks great uncle

oh my god

I heard it was photoshopped and it was originally a gay flag

Consider that Phoenix have us this great meme: killme

16:36

Oh fuck

16:36

Did we bully her into leaving?

16:36

Were we being mean? (edited)

16:37

she hasnt left

In chat she told a story about being laid up with type B strep for most of the last month. On that account I'd suggest extending her by two or three weeks. I'd also suggest trying to get her more on a one and one basis so those of us who are not BabbaJ can get to know her a bit better and help to unfold her capacities.

well

18:00

she'll be at smibville regardless if she gets approved or not. so shells be a guest in this discord at least as long as smibville is around

True. And with many of our initiates it is evident rejecting them is also part of the process for testing them.

of course just what I was about to say, she can always be voted on later if she fits in

4

im psure she was in the hospital for while

1

Yes - she was :(

06:43

But she came back I think

Yes. Myself, Babba and UFO were chatting with her a few days ago.

How long ago was this

14:57

i've been very active this past week, and haven't seen her once. might be just because of my timezone

I think I see you primarily active around this time, yes. This was one or two days ago, 12 hours from now.

she may be active in voice i still havent seen anything exceptional entire history seems to be a few emperium bases and a few people dont like her (edited)

and if she is here in voice it is very rarely

15:25

also chat interaction is at a mininum (edited)

Agreed. My vote remains unchanged. If we see more of her and some impressive activity I may change it. That's likely not possible, though. For this round most of our opinions are already cemented.

okay. i think we've all gotten to know Brother Music by now. any final thoughts besides that he's awesome?

Hes a treble maker

I personally could not agree more. Music is always there for you when you need it. Never complains at all, has been to every pre and post meeting activities i can remember. Never leaks anything. Played a song by "The Vines" one time. An absolute mad lab of epic proportions. I would push for a yes on this one my dudes for sure. What else can I say. Music makes everything better. (edited)

23:01

I think music is a fan of baritone too?

Music is an excellent Brother. He introduced me to my current husband and I couldn't be happier. When my mother was dying of cancer he paid for her hospital bills and lovingly played calming music for her until she passed away. Brother Music for worshipful.

HermeticLock 17/08/2019 01:40

02:15

from charlies base

02:15

btw

wow

03:59

looks amazing

Charllie @SpawnMason https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353423878137315329/606589424502964357/unknown.png?width=582&height=676

20:33

ive seen him come to lodges ive seen him in voice ive seen his builds charlie man good?

charlie man good

20:34

nough said

hes strangly grown on me

20:34

young as fuck

20:34

but actually a nice lad and a good builder

i've seen him a lot. I would say he's hyperactive, but that means something else.

Charlie man good. Been around for a while, skilled player, active in the community, seems good at keeping things on the down low. Also seems like a good fit for the group, as Todarac has said he grows on you. (edited)

yes charlie

he speaks about as much as Babbaj

Charlie has my vote (edited)

20:53

Good man.

20:53

Doesn't fuck up shit either

I've spoken with him 3 times in voice last week

i talk to him all the time in vc

Love Charlie

charlie good, bit youngish and over enthusiastic but we can use some of that I'm sure

Like him.

like him too

(edited)

7

Don't think I have to say how much of a yes I am for charlie. Dude is great, massive potential. Charlie Man Good. 100.

2

I think charlie should be banned

16:22

(don't feel like running with the flock, that's all - I love charlie)

your opinion has been noted

any @Worshipful here?

?

@WarLordN1k plz gief grindlord guest

18:53

also

18:53

non-guests can see #cloud-club

18:54

oops

18:54

not warlord

18:54

@Worshipful

18:54

apologies

he left?

ye it seems so :(

19:01

was too good to be true

Weird

He just joined entirely to say, smoke weed and eat pizza it seems

3

I wonder why Kyle

20:35

I wonder why

tfw applicant council rank keeps going away then coming back

Skullerg has now repeatedly told me he wants back in, I have a feeling that he won't really fit in here but he has always been cool to me

07:43

what do you guys think?

"back" in? I dont recall him ever being here

ah

he was a guest at some point

back in as guest -initiate

07:44

ye

07:44

he wants to play with a group again he says

was he voted on?

after playing alone so much

07:44

no

07:44

the purge started

he didnt get as far as initiate (edited)

so he was in there 100%

07:45

right when he joined here

well I personally dont trust him, he's associated with people like killet, gsmack and popcorn for starters

never had issues with gsmack but killed and popcorn have negative connotations

as far as i can tell they dont have too too much to do with popcorn... gsmack and skuller are basically welded together though.

08:02

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px5ciyh54JI&feature=youtu.be

Lord Popcwrn

Popcwrn's Podcast - Episode 2 - SkullerG

08:02

hes like 12-14 from the sound of his voice

sounds more like an interogation than a podcast lol

I've heard you got your hands on some enchanted cookies, is that true?

08:06

@TheFunnCubes you're mentioned in the vid as well bro

08:07

you based with him lol?

08:07

along with mcren?!

i know. i did base with gsmack and skullerg

08:08

and, yeah... mcren as well... who seems to have quit thankfully

I got like 5 redflags from that vid alone - solid NO on skuller from me

skuller and gsmack were among the first players i ever met

we can't let those retards in that would be disastrous

@Brother Dielo i appeared in an episode too btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP5g8jCoXBc am i bad as well, because i memed catboy with popcwrn?

Lord Popcwrn

Popcwrn's Podcast - Episode 1 - catboy25

09:50

these podcasts dont really show association, cuz they're a meme...

09:51

also, yeah, i figured emp would have a problem with them both, which i can understand

skuller huge gay

Anybody know Paralusion?

lol

uberlol

paralusion. yeah no.

you dont remember him from the VI and VII inc herm? he was an admin even for some time but we yeeted him out after it got very obvious that he's a jared lackey

17:29

he ran point zenith with Satisfaction earlier this year(not sure if that group is around still) and is buddies with steve3, imems etc so a pretty clear cut case of "no, you can't join"

yeah point zenith. he defended sat griefing the golden plains. what a dick

Lol. It’s funny that these 2b2t players are growing up and actually want to be a part of something now, but their reputations are tarnished so nobody wants to be around them.

bad rep on 2b is hard to get rid of for sure

17:42

thank god for search function and message history lol

Paralusion is a massive yikes

17:46

He can be pretty toxic / manipulative

I don't believe anyone is beyond redemption

18:19

I certainly was a fucking turd at that age

18:20

However must be proven

1

paralusion is 23 so idk

2

We could always bring them in as a guest. He would need to begin by making amends with those he already burned himself on, such as @TheFunnCubes however. If brought in it would almost certainly be a failed vote, though. The question is, do we expect him to improve from or be soured towards us from the experience?

people just dont want shitters to even have guest lol were not a behaviour rehabilitation center

5

vote to kick jumpy see #spawnmason

lol

Here is my nail in the coffin.

08:24

Regarding Jumpy blaze membership

08:24

Not the fact that he may have shared the message. I don’t care about that

08:24

But he’s sharing his discord

08:24

And the person he’s sharing it with

08:24

Has no problem repeating his pm’s

1

is that not just a meme though?

lmfao

08:25

he's not sharing his account

The integrity of the spawnmasons isn’t a meme to me.

herm, you should get some sleep brother, I know it was a long day/night, but this is overkill

08:26

I think eveyrone is pretty clear on jumpys membership at this point and I dont see him getting brother rank anytime soon

I guess you all are picking up on something that I can’t see?

bcs we're in a vc with him and he's memeing brah

(edited)

I’ll admit I’m going overboard.

08:28

I wish that something like this wouldn’t become a meme here though

08:28

It’s just disrespectful in my opinion.

08:30

Maybe it was disrespectful of me to ban him without the full story though. It looked pretty awful when I was reading through all he chats, and the combination of seeing other people call for him to be removed added fire to it.

08:35

This conversation really doesn’t look good.

08:36

Look, I just hope you guys realize that my actions were not unfounded here.

08:36

I’m sorry to cause a bigger mess.

08:37

I just don’t want something like this happening again.

agreed

08:37

its all good herm

Going to overkill this with one more screenshot. Sorry. This is not how we should present ourselves. That’s it from me. Sorry again for causing more trouble than was probably necessary.

noted and I went overboard there I agree.

iZac?

19:15

I would vouch for him entering.

19:15

Want to get thoughts though before. I’ve known him for about 3 years

If you know him for 3 years now and have a good feeling, I'm totally fine with making the first step and invite him as a guest. The way he did "ask" is not what I would consider serious tho. (edited)

how close is he with close and other voco leadership @HermeticLock ? (edited)

I've had a few interactions with him - not much, he seems quite young

19:58

but also like a fun dude

izac is working on a client with

B A R I T O N E I N T E G R A T I O N

so that's a yes from me (edited)

20:46

im pretty sure he's voco through and through

All ive ever seen from voco members are immature, edgy, attention seeking kids or people taking advantage and using those kids.

very well said

iZac is not one of the immatures (edited)

the reason I was asking herm was because I see a high risk of cross faction drama with the masons having BOTH so many emperium members and a high ranking voco member

I agree with you. Let’s see if it becomes an issue.

hes already here?

22:53

I mean

22:53

ok I guess

herm gave him guest were gonna have him around for long enough to see if it causes problems i guess

22:59

opposition is welcome at lodge when people vouch

My hope is maybe we can build a bridge.

to colt?

23:02

somehow, I dont see that happening

what you need is a ladder

*rapelling rope (edited)

3

public perception against voco is pretty bad these days herm i doubt people here even want to get closer to them as a group doesnt mean theres a problem with considering one of them but ehhhh idk

hard yikes at voco members joining

why would we want to become closer with voco or colt?

#outer-sbase already proving me right

If he really is mature and a good guy then why is he a part of a group of attention whore, immature, griefer faction?

00:15

I dont know the guy at all. But ive seen how the group he is a big part of and its not good.

I've never actually talked to him but if he's high up in a group that sells vocoin for ranks then not so sure how I feel about him

izac is cringe

0x thinks 99.9% of all things in this universe are cringe but I agree with him on this one (edited)

the universe is cringe ngl

this

I agree with breithan, you are the company you keep. Even if he doesn't participate in the bullshit he still endorses is because he's in the group

Alright. I’ll side with you all here.

@Brother Todarac this one is CRINGE for REAL this time

For whatever it’s worth. But I don’t really feel a need to fight this fight.

01:27

There are people in the community that would be better suited for us.

what is it with the very high ranking people in voco "not really doing much in voco"

01:29

inferno didnt really do much in voco and he was a mod

I think collectively speaking, voco doesn’t do a whole lot

Herm trial for asking for giganox dox

I think collectively speaking, voco doesn’t do a whole lot

except spamming their symbol (edited)

I think we can discuss Hari now @SpawnMason

(edited)

I like him

hari is cool catsunglasses

hes been at several lodges hes been around hes built with us hes been helping projects i like having him around i think hes been on 2b for just enough time to assume hes stable here and ive talked to him about work and school and he should not run out of time to play suddenly

fun dude. seems to be dedicated, sice he made a giant mapart and all. is pretty likable. i met up with him irl and he seemed fun there too. i think he belongs with us

hari is a beast a bit annoying at times but still love him

Hari is a bit new, but not all that much newer than I. A stronger candidate than Zetlin or Phoenix. A good chance of passing the selection process.

I like Hari for what it is worth

I like hari a lot

Was thinking about the group randomly today. Two thoughts crossed my mind: We really don’t make it easy for new members to come in here. It’s hard to become a spawnmason. And this is good. The second thing I thought of after this was that we should make Hari a brother. In my opinion he’s fit.

07:40

He’s “one of us” as it were.

smib

hari's pretty gay but thats okay

09:32

;p (edited)

09:34

he cool

he is

smib

who is von

tana guest i have no idea

What do people think of Bajr?

big gey would fit right in but might need more time

I wonder how and why he is on the last lodge meeting attendance list since he isn't a mason nor invited to smibville lol (edited)

i was on the lodge attendance list just by hanging around for like a month before even being initiate

that was proly bcs you were actually at some lodge in game, like on constantium

08:16

but he doesnt have a plus sign next to his name, which should mean that he was only in the lodge vc, but that's not really possible

good point

but more on boomerang's question: did bajr somehow express his interest in the masons beyond being a guest here? I havent seen anything to suggest this

neither have I

i put guests / initiates on there if theyre around right before the meeting good to look back how available one is around that time

I had a long chat with Bajr today. He said he'd be interested in joining if he ever gets invited. He is rather new [started in January], but he's done quite a lot on the server in the time he's been here. I built with him at 2Close and he came to Clout Club, though I don't know if he built there. Honestly, I just like him. Solid dude. I'd vouch.

Clout Club

makes sense though that he didn't really ask - the consensus around is that you get asked to join

10:37

he came in here as a friend

10:37

others join the discord with the direct intent of joining the spawnmasons, so there it is clear

10:38

but if you get guest rank to hang out in VC, it's not really that clear for the person

10:38

so acting respectful and not asking to join could be seen as something good (edited)

it actually was the same for biggus but when scribble asked me i told him that i thought it was a little too early the only thing i could put against is that they are very involved in emp and im not sure how much time they are willing to put here in the long run but only actions will show

agreed

find your own Australians >:^(

maybe its just me, but I have began to feel like a lot of emp members see a spawnmason membership as something that comes naturally/almost automatically due to the two groups being relatively close

11:55

I also saw someone describe emp with the phrase "stepping stone" in this regard several times in the last month or two (edited)

that idea has simmered down a bit in the last month, but if that where to come up I'd just kick them from emp

1

We dont need more Australians. We already have the best australians

1

we don't need anymore 14 year olds either

14:06

we already have the best

:)

but i digress, bajr is a clout chasing newfag and im not even sure what hes done on the server besides befriending the Chinese pedophiles

15:20

so many other actually good emp candidates like COUGH COUGH BIGGUS COUGH COUGH

i wish we could consider wailn / overfloyd / people like that but they literally dont talk lol

idk that much about overfloyd but wailn is a solid builder from what i know

I really like wailn

15:41

Overfloyd too - but he seems to be more focused on spawn repairs atm

15:41

But they don’t speak yea :(

And bajr is all about the clout

that's true

I feel the same with bajr

A social climber?

I've no problem with Bajr but I've seen what many of you are referring to. Primarily seems preoccupied with clout stuff.

I spoke to Wailn - here is what he said.

16:57

I said no pressure and that I'll share this with you

16:57

makes sense to me

16:57

and I really really like the guy

16:57

he is very involved

16:57

check out his stuff at smibville

16:57

I've been to a small personal place of his - also very beautiful

16:59

conversation between xcc2 and me about Wailn (edited)

---

18:35

mattvtd

18:35

18:36

I have good feelings about these two guys

yea out of all the guest rn I'm liking Matt, wailn and giggles (edited)

18:40

biggus is good too but needs to build some more be around more a little

18:40

and I wish zettiboi would get back in the swing of things cause he's a power house when he wants to

yes on all accounts

lol

?

nvm

wailn and overfloyd ive both known and built at bases with for years now, both great dudes

^

jep

08:11

mattvtd I also like

i remember being pretty pissed that zetlin vote didnt pass because todarac pushed for voting no https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353423878137315329/587412134108069899 but he ended up being completely right and we shouldnt forget to take things slow with new players just for this reason priority n1 should remain to make sure they are lasting players

Where has he gone ? (edited)

he was super active and around then he was planned gone for 2 months but he never really came back active

Ye sadly Zetlin was a disappointment

ok that sounds a bit rude

02:02

i just wish he stuck with the server

Ye I did not mean as a person

02:09

But as a player on 2b

02:13

in the sense that it seems he lacked the long time motivation

02:14

but then again so do a few others here who seem to have been initiated just to immediately slack off after

Zetlin is tryina get in on the Halloween party build. I know literally nothing about him other than that he was a guest in here for a hot sec. (edited)

Still a guest I’m p sure he’s in smib like chat

he's an adult who's stable, I doubt he would leak anything

Yea.

^

yeah he is trust worthy at least

That is still surprising since he is super quiet here and says nothing

also asked to come to smib and never came

09:06

:

You coulve made him more excited. People tend to come more likely the more excited they are.

You know... jerk around some more

12:22

I do like NoOS

same

^

everyone likes NoOs

can i ask older 2b2t projects/bases he was apart of ... i am not in the loop on that

I have no idea I just met him a little before he got invited in here. Before I was an initiate he was nice to me when I talked in Emperium chat.

We should wait a bit he is still new and might pull a Zetlin and just die (edited)

tbh other then some txt trolling i think he is not dumb and at this moment would not vote no other then he feels like a new fag

07:54

@Brother Hanscor too true

of course we should wait (edited)

09:00

Just wanted to say I have a positive impression and it's interesting to speak with him :)

I will try to get in VC with NoOS so I can form an opinion. Regrettably the move has taken a lot out of me this week.

NoOS is too likeable

22:31

its suspicious

22:31

confirmed insider???

5

this

x1000000

i love noos

Perhaps

terbin tody was joking

So was I

any one think about inviting Mr_Pint as a guest?

who?

he was one of the builder for the halloween party base and a long time member of the freelancers a now idle group now but i am a high ranked member and he is a classy 2b2t player

I will vouch

so do i

Ive known him for a year now

04:02

he built at the first hallpween base last year

did he hmm i did not join in on that one tbh

known pint for years

dont we have to vouch at meetings now?

04:35

ill vouch next week

You can invite people as guests can’t you? It’s just vouching for initiate

04:36

I thought

yeah

yeah just a guest role atm

04:37

i posted here as it felt like the right spot to do so

@Worshipful i get an invite?

but he has my full support and trust

04:38

they be sleeping

i think he is

also do not fast track him to initate i am sure he will stick around and get to know the bunch of nerds here

1

yes

@brother terbin

07:55

Thats LordKnow

Thx a lot

:)

00:49

00:50

no need to judge yet this thing is just to get to know him better

Brother Entropy 08/11/2019 00:50

Who's WarLordM1k?

01:56

@WarLordN1k

my evil twin

02:00

i should grab that name tbh

02:00

It's available

yeah but i only have 3 accounts that are not BS alts and i am not giving up those names

Lol. WarLordNik is available too. Why the 1?

might buy a fresh account for my Birthday

02:02

ewww that i

Wdym? It's a sexy lil i (edited)

02:03

I'm sorry I clogged up applicant-committee. Please scroll up to see Mr_ Pint's application (edited)

1

i mean.... in theory

that's the cubes I know ❤

about Phoenix its only been a week shes been active i dont like to make babba sad but i find her way too fucking loud i want to leave vc everytime she joins and im pretty certain that we are not in need of getting loud people in lodge vcs if people agree id like to vote now and not waste anyones time as she was told she needed to be active and build to get accepted and i dont think opinions will change much (edited)

lmao I don't feel like her being loud is a valid reason to deny

11:15

you can just have her at 20 % :p

its not just volume idk i feel the same as this dud

11:40

also im not asking to deny im asking to vote

Agree with entropy

11:46

Volume ant pitch and explosiveness cut my nerves

11:46

Give her a joint or something

Or xanax lol

Point being it’s uncomfortable to be in VC even when turned down

11:51

We got to get her into VC with biggus too

Yesterday was a prime example

Let's just vote on her and get her through the process. But we should speak to her and Biggus too, if these two are going to cause conflicts. (edited)

After we moved to general vc she was there and played rust with babba and others and literally spoke over everyone as if she was streaming the game or smth

1

11:52

And all the yelling when getting killed and shit

1

This

I mean... she fine as guest, no? Would keep her around and stuff, so babba isnt säd and all... also she is active on 2b... just not with us. In her base with her friends... like tristan ;) Keep all this in mind. I have no problem with her around... i just dont think she is mature enough to be a mason

1

shes fine with me as guest either now that shes initiate shes (understandably) trying to be more active in voice

agree with all that

I like her and dint really find she talks too much She always adds to conversations We are all guilty at times of talking over the top of one and other ( sister android last lodge lol ) I prefer to have people that talk alot in vc compared to those that just sit there and say nothing

>https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353423878137315329/648144238143471626 yeah man she is gonna be active on 2b with us when she is not even invited

>https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353423878137315329/648144238143471626 @Bróðir Nordic pointing out that the [jews, muslums or blacks here] should be exterminated in the middle of talking about something totally unrelated is mature

(edited)

15:46

here is a very unused discord feature that we have had for like over a year now

ready to change my opinion

why is being energetic a bad thing

I wasn't going to say anything about phoenix... But as long as other people are bringing it up... yeah, when I see her in vc, I usually don't join. She just grates on my ears. I appreciate that she's active and contributes to conversations. I just can't really stand her.

it's not you are right Ox

16:25

perhaps we should donate her a better mic

She has a perfectly fine mic lol

16:30

Its not the quality but the volume and loudness

and content.

phoneix = just ok

16:47

that's not good enough

1

I'd like to give phoenix another week or two. I hope she will understand that she does not have to focus the attention on herself to be perceived by us. Making her express her emotions less audible might work, but I'm not sure if she could take that personal. (edited)

I like the advice to just give her a blunt or something lmao

Give her another week and someone DM her asking kindly that she tries to use push to talk. She’s a nice person. I’m 90% sure she’ll try it without fighting against it.

18:20

I don’t know about being a mason yet but she is kind and I’d still like to give her a chance to fix what people don’t like.

yes sounds incredibly stupid to vote no cause she's loud

I would

18:22

Love this

pls do NOT dm her about this lmao, thats just retarded

2

I didn’t. At least someone talk to her. If we’re gonna do the thing where “Oh we don’t like something about someone, but let’s not tell them what it is let’s just not like them from a distance” we’re being the immature ones.

she at one point said that the reason why she doesn't use push to talk is that she uses arrow keys instead of wasd and can't easily reach any other key, and her mouse doesn't have rebindable side buttons (not a joke btw) (edited)

2

LOL

disgusting

1

I can agree with dielo about that.

arrow keys

18:27

THIS is what a real gamers keyboard should look like

18:27

18:28

Not even 2 years since I had it lmao

lmfaoooo

why the A isnt as rubbed off as the others I dont understand

my d key is also much more worn than the a key

bcs my fingers are resting on AWD when not moving

shouldnt they be equal

thats my point, I dont get it at all lol

18:32

I guess I tend to go...right more then left?

My keys are similarly worn. Hoping to replace my laptop with that Omen I was lusting after soon though.

seems like you go back the most dielo xD

thats also pretty weird though isnt it?

18:51

there arent a lot of games where you back up "more" than go forward, not even car games

Kiting is a fairly standard tactic. I challenge you to play Demon's Souls or Armored Core differently.

the only key that has faded for me is lctrl and I don't even really use it that much

wsd lshift space are mine

A is less worn because your ring finger isn't as strong as your first and middle.

bullshit

19:57

my ring finger is defo stronger than my index finger

19:57

women told me so it must be true!

ok i talked to her and she'll try to be quieter

19:59

also nice job communicating this amongst yourselves and not with her

what a,,,,, double standard,,,,,,, anndroid talks over hari? i sleep,,,,,,, phoenix talks over hari? real shit?!?!??!

To be fair, Discord effed up. Neither myself or Lamp had Hari muted nor were we trying to be mean to him.

ikik ILY jk

i'm not gonna answer to your comment Ox. if you dont like me you should say it directly

20:52

do you aprowe @Brother Dielo

yiiiiiiiiiiiis!

20:53

but holy shit look!

20:53

nordic's S is way more fucked than his D

20:53

lol

20:53

read that out loud

i like to walk backwards i guess

I meant A

20:54

sorry

20:54

high af

my keyboard doesn't have letters on it to rub off :/

21:01

BOARD

is that like a cashiers keyboard?

21:06

holy fuck how do you even type on that shit?

Blues?! And blanks?! I'm in love

Why am I surprised leijurv loves keyboards

3

22:00

heres mine btw

nice troll lol

22:12

stuff of nightmares (edited)

@TheFunnCubes it is direct what r u talking about

02:02

its a link to your message

02:03

@TheFunnCubes https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353423878137315329/648187274181214218

Das nasty

what are you eating that gives you rainbow semen

It just sounded to me like youwere talking about me. Idk man. Maybe just say you agree, next time. I'm just a dumbass german with the skin thickness of a micron.

What, he did talk about you, your message and quoted from it explaining why it is stupid

Maybe just say you agree, next time.

What? He did the opposite of agreeing with you or what are you saying?

10:55

@TheFunnCubes

#Whateverman

When can we vote on overfloyed? (edited)

.... he's initiate?

Not approved initiate though

hes not even initite

2

Okay didn’t think so

08:03

lmao

I’d really like to see us move some of those great guests we have that play with us to become initiated before the new year.

08:04

Would be nice imo

ye wouldve been initiate if he.... talked

has pint been in VC yet?

08:05

im still yet to speak to him

he has but not too often

He's super busy with the other group - I can speak to him

isn't it time to vote on phoenix soon?

been two weeks some wanted to give the extra time

08:54

ideally pint should before phoenix

but phoenix has been here longer

09:03

but alright

only in the discord, not as an initiate since this is her second time

One month initiate is normal

except when you're me and get initiated after 2 weeks

09:56

or when you're emperor and get initiated after 20 seconds

true story

Has Overfloyd built at Smibville or other current SpawnMason projects yet?

He thinks 100k out is too far

17:13

He sticks around spawn i think

17:14

Explores

he's not exploring too much

17:15

he is more repairing old builds and building his own

17:15

but very close to spawn yes

17:16

I gave him the discord of, as fit put it, "xcc2's spawn repair group"

17:16

he's running that with all his energy

That's an admirable trait.

I created Robot Head Group group as an idea to restore the Giant Robot Head by Deaddreamer or Derpy Build as he called it himself. I spoke to xcc2 about it and he was all in. We would invite Herm as a surprise as he had based there previously. But OverFloyd, Wailn and others had already repaired the head, I placed very few blocks myself. I then invited Scribble and Entropy to join, they were in on it but not Herm, it had to be a surprise. So I announced to him that there was a surprise and asked when he could dedicate time. The group was spread all over the globe, so finding a time was hard - but we made it work. It was very fun picking up Herm in the nether and making him follow me, he was very curious as to what this was about. When we exited a portal around 1000 blocks away and started moving, he started recognizing the terrain. It was a very very fun thing to do After that I created a discord as a replacement for the group chat and the group has been thriving ever since (edited)

17:21

(which is not my doing, I just help where I can)

17:23

when Scribble and I still were friends

17:23

I miss it

One of my favorite moments ever on 2b2t.

Terbin, are you and scribble no longer friends?

oof, need to raise our standards

lmfao

omg fuck that guy

00:24

he has been trying to be relevant for a few weeks

who is that?

omfg honja has been trolling YT fucks for weeks

ah okay. so i didnt notice him since neither am i part of the group he is trolling, nor am i paying any attention to them.

he never messaged me

01:28

(Biggest spawnmason youtuber btw)

01:28

((Sal doesnt count))

01:28

(((niether do the rest of you)))

((((Oh))))

01:29

(((((Link to channel?)))))

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQB3DC61QSKrPfZjeIBfh3g?view_as=subscriber

Harri?

Making gaming Videos 4 funsies :D My names Harrison

01:30

ahahah 4 funsies

01:30

wrote that when iw as 12

01:30

not chanbging it

Subbed

i got 600 views on an unlisted video

<3

01:31

i love u

01:31

daddy herm

01:31

i got 23k on a lsioted one

01:31

:)

ooweee i made 2 videos

01:32

btw

I haven’t checked my channel in so long

01:33

Oh I unlisted like everything

01:33

That’s right

01:34

https://youtu.be/tpFD36QNLK0

Hermeticlock

Hausemaster and Curtis Trying to Patch Dupes on 2b2t.org

01:34

Oldie but goodie

alll lies and gay

@Brother Hari noob I got 87k

09:46

I notice you posted this 8h ago

09:46

but whatever :p (edited)

pint denied by cancel of vouch no further discussion needed

wat

18:51

who canceled his vouch

boomerang because it would be no from everyone regardless

i didnt even know we could cancel vouches lmfao

first time for everything i guess

;b

Can I cancel my couch for Nordic? This would also cancel the vouch for Henry, and then BoomerangVillage (edited)

18:54

Because they’re all tied together

ez

And Nordic beat me in Chess

I think this only works before initiation

18:54

but

18:54

I like pint

18:54

he just isnt really reactive

18:54

or active

Agreed Terbin

remains guest for now

i didnt dislike him

18:55

just not much time to talk to him

sounds good

Make no mistake, I like Pint. He's a good guy. Right now just might not be a good time for him. He hasn't been very active in game or on discord and his interest in the group doesn't seem very strong. I don't want to ask people to vote on someone that that haven't gotten the chance to get to know, and I don't think we should be initiating someone who doesn't seem to be interested.

understandable

He'll stay as guest and if things change in the future, I'll happy re-vouch

same

19:05

and good call

we should tell guests that they should be active in vc

dont worry; i do (edited)

@Bromger Boomerang is mr pint still doing the secrete Santa?

Did he sign up?

hes on the list

I'll ask

he can still do it

20:07

hes still at smib?

dude... no... if you cancel nordic your cancel a lot more

22:44

@HermeticLock

that's 8 active masons in that branch...

22:54

same number of active masons as in this branch (edited)

22:54

actually also same number of players and also same number of generations

Top 5 unexpected cases of your chart being weaponized

Disappointing to see so many prospectives drop off the map at the same time but at least it saves us the effort.

oof i guess i will go play with my self

Anyone know what zetlin is doing? :(

Oof... on that note: Phoenix turned kinda invisible from my perspektive... I hope people correct me on this but to ne it looks like she be focussing on basing with nerds inc and skyrim.....

06:48

I mean. Dont get me wrong. I like her... but isnt being active with us kind of a criterium for joining? killme

can we get a terbin laser eyes meme? kinda like woke

but TERBIN

06:58

it would apply here

;)

"ok boomer" except its "ok terbin"

@TheFunnCubes shes been busy and she said shes fine just being guest

just some thoughts on overfloyd and wailn, both dude super great both super quiet and a bit reserved but i think we'd be mistaken if we didn't intiate them

01:46

i think they both been around long enough and shown enough dedication building with us

01:46

really like wailn based with him on const too before and such a chill dude

01:47

would love to hear some other thoughts on them from anyone else

I like Wailn. Good guy. Don't know floyd very well, but IIRC, his name comes from him being a Pink Floyd fan, so that's a huge plus for me. (edited)

jordan wants people to talk and these dudes fit like every box except that they just dont seem to like talking lol theyre just so productive and not causing any trouble on the server that they might pass the vote this way god this would be so much easier if they just went in voice a bit more lol

yea we got a couple quiet brothers already they talk enough for me to be considered worthy

why don't they talk

I agree, the talking is necessary - regularily

04:17

Else they won’t pass a vote anyway

04:17

Good guys though

yea agreed

06:39

I talked with overfloyed a few days ago. that I recommend to join vc here.

06:39

He said that he needs to get more confident with his english

What language does he speak?

Italian

06:57

I spoke with Wailn he said he wanted to try to be more in voice

Do we have any masons that speak Italian? Might make him more comfortable if there's someone else in the vc who speaks his language. No? (edited)

Both dudes get a go from me. Wailn i am not so sure about, Only because i didnt have much interactoins with him. I did write quite a bit with floyd, since he found gp and left a sign. I really like him. Wailn seems like a good dude, so i'll trust the brothers who know him better than i do, on him.

07:47

I agree, that more vc activity won't hurt though.

100% sure on them on my side I invited them here - but same rules for all

wailn will go in voice more he assured me

00:39

he wants to be here

00:39

I like him

Awesome :)

clover is so cool - she was reluctant to join, as she mentioned in #general-20210704

13:52

but she would really add value to the group

13:52

great builder

13:52

wonderful person

yes

13:57

we are slowly convincing her :)

keep going

14:04

14:05

had to laugh ngl

❤️

Have no issues with wailn, seems like a good lad

I write with him a lot, he is a very good guy

14:40

incredibly dedicated too

14:40

he would have put energy into our current project

Like him.

10/10 application

yea he's well spoken

I like him

wtf anti coder discrimination

19:48

bigot!

he's just intimmidated by your intellect

Can we make a Cool Coders Only channel

implying this dont exist already

20:00

20:07

Shaking and crying rn

Wailn has come off as an extremely good candidate since I've gotten to know him. Would give him my vote.

I dont see him in voice but is he active at smibville?

i believe so

22:46

known wailn for a long time he's trustworthy and a really good builder

he will try to be more in voice https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353423878137315329/658757351121223680

Met up with a guy named orsond. We had a lot in common, connected on LinkedIn and everything.

01:16

He would be a good fit. He's been playing for a year

01:16

Retired after selling stock from a large tech company.

01:17

Now owns his own gin dispensary.

01:17

In Australia.

what a fucking lad

01:22

does he play on 2b2t

For a full year

01:23

Pretty often

with a resume like that I'd like to just talk to him, let alone invite him in here

sign me up

Can I be his best friend

lol sounds good would love to VC with them at some point

I like that he doesn’t PVP

04:58

Shows he’s a classy player

04:58

;)

pvp ability is actually inversely correlated

speak for yourself. I'm a PVP legend. My D/K ratio is the highest on the server.

o the poor sod thinks we are not retards

16:33

30sec in call with nordic will fix that

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implying we aren't retards ohhh he has something coming

Nordic is everyone's rite of passage. One second he'll be complaining about drunkenly taking the train to Siberia. The next he'll be complaining about Poles building his new home.

Nordic is an interesting guy. He can drop some of the most appalling baseless unironic racism, and yet I never hold it against him. I really like the guy. I feel that any member of the group who hasn't come to find Nordic endearing isn't a true mason yet. (edited)

5

I don’t like Nordic; but I don’t really dislike him either. He’s definitely entertaining.

yea that's why you're still a newfag

I don’t find it endearing.

18:55

I wish he would stop making VC toxic.

me neither

I think he rarely makes vc toxic

Anyone who uses the N word unironically, (maybe even at all?) makes me cringe. Especially in here.

18:56

I think we’re better than that. (edited)

18:56

And if we’re not better than that, ask yourselves why not? (edited)

nordic is an original. there is nothing like him

22:13

i think that's what people like about him

22:13

there is just nothing to compare him to

22:13

i dont agree with him most of the time and i'll call out his bullshit though

I love nordic

^

me too ❤️

nordic is the joe rogan of the masons lmao

Nordic has issues which lead him to often be toxic. The pendulum does swing, however. He's also one of the most tenacious members we have. He has negative and positive characteristics, as does anyone.

1

I ❤️ Nordic

2

I love nordic too he is just like me :3

Phoenix @SpawnMason https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353423878137315329/598586217822683176/unknown.png?width=596&height=676

1

1

13:47

low activity / busy with other things I cant keep giving extra weeks kind of ends the discussion for me

Same. I get it, she has school and personal stuff that takes priority and I agree with that decision. However, she has trouble remaining committed to in game projects she has agreed to. In spite of the subtle benefits I think she could grant the group if brought in (as Emperor noted she was basically his secretary for a month) she hasn't demonstrated a level of activity to be brought in.

upvoted

Imagine making one of the only women in your group the secretary.

1

Honestly sounded like she did it without prompting and to little fanfare, which indicates admirable personality characteristics. She just happens to be focused on other things or otherwise indisposed when it comes to occasions like this one.

1

like in any sentence anndroid writes theres a few words i dont understand

20:29

i should read books in english maybe

i like her and I know im not one to talk for being inactive in voice as ive been out of it for a month, but I do look at the dsicord often and havnt seen much of her, even in #general-20210704 . Her last message in general was over a month ago.

Sorry. Trying to be clinical. It sounded like she just did what needed to be done without seeking hype or other attention. She's gotten sick or had other real life stuff get in the way both initiation cycles.

She stopped coming around after we sorta told her she was annoying in voice chat. Her inactivity might be because her feelings were hurt.

who told her she was annoying?

20:32

thats rude af

Was she actually annoying in voice? I’ve always thought she was fine company.

20:32

Also this is Babbaj’s wife we’re talking about. Remember that when Babbaj strikes you down.

https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353423878137315329/660218279335559180 lol no

It's usually been in Emperium chat that she's been referred to as annoying or manipulative. I'm not an Emperium chat regular so can't speak on it. But it seemed to stem from jealousy of her social butterfly status.

Sounds like literal toxic masculinity to me.

20:34

Also I could be totally wrong. (edited)

I'm trying to find the conversation.

Possibly. Her naysayers can always try being Emperor's secretary for a month and see if they can get the same high praise.

I’m moving my yes vote to a no after the following: https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353423878137315329/648125775471443989

this all doesnt matter babba talked to her and she would do effort to reduce that but shes just not been active since

1

That's why I worry that her feelins were hurt.

20:44

@HermeticLock How did you do that linky thing?

20:45

I was trying to link to the same conversation.

i think that convo was in this channel so she wouldnt have seen it

also babba already said https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353423878137315329/660218626694971407

@Bromger Boomerang

So gotta be admin.

20:47

go it.

boomerang check #spawnmason channel

Don’t think so

The funniest thing to come out of the whole Phoenix thing, imo, was someone (I think Dielo) saying that she would be much more tolerable if she just smoked a joint occasionally. Which is pretty much an underhanded way of saying that she is too hyper and high pitched all the time

20:50

She is the complete opposite of the calm, well spoken europeans we are accustomed to

3

indeed lol

20:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOt62cT2teY

lsdoxie

How I Met Your Mother - Fat cats (british accent)

20:53

we need more fat cats

@entropyanndroid lol they are just mad

Probably.

ok im just gonna pretend this vote never happened

02:06

me on the right

who snitched

4

that’s cool.

delete this

She confided as much in me but said she would tell you. Glad she finally did. Hope to see more of her and that she has a good break.

I would have voted yes on her if she was active.....

4

12:14

but she's not, so i didnt

Lotus is asking me all the time to join

ask dielo

oof lotus is clout farming i am thankful you helped back in the early days but Highland has been worthless as of late

17:35

after dielo was kicked i filled may pockets and waited for a good event to disavow and fuck off

17:35

good use of the UGE tbh

lotus just kept making bad decisions until it was too late

17:43

tldr

3

if he made good choises he would have at his back some powerful allies ... but they are now spawnmasons

17:47

that disavow him and the group

Lotus has asked me several times to join too.

lol he has never asked me take that as you will

same

19:11

but I get asked by lots of others

Just so we're clear

19:13

And as long as Im alive I will do everything to NOT have him ruin this group like he did hl

5

19:14

He's not a good person, by any metric

5

cool guy

13:33

Also he starts to come in vc way more often now (on his own)

Overfloyd is epic. He's sometimes quiet but he's active

I love him.

wait what happened with dielo?

they were talking about old highland not masons

kk

Overfloyd would make an excellent addition. Very Productive, not at all polarizing. He's come a very long way on the server in a very short amount of time, too. Would like to get to know him a bit better but even so my vote would be a yes.

3

He's pretty new to the discord, but I think Hawk would be a really good choice for initiate. It would be a good idea to wait for a bit to make sure he stays active, but if he does stick around, I will be proud to vouch.

3

yes i mainly want to see if he still plays after his free priority month runs out :p

I really like Hawked as well as Cloverfrost.

yes

yeah. lets see if he does first, but he does seem like a good pick.

@Worshipful can I please get an invite for DaPorkchop? @Brother F3 vouches as well

16:05

and I'm sure he would not be the only one

16:05

@Brother Todarac?

16:06

@broder lampa ?

yes i would as well

1

I like leijruv

I like teribn

dude I love daporkchop

yes

cant say hawk isnt in voice enough

03:23

i dont think he ever leaves it

I joined earlier and he was AFK

03:25

So

03:25

I’m not sure if he’s on

yep happened to be a few days ago

he is in it a lot not afk regardless

ik. i said it cuz a lot of recent initiates failed because they werent active and i heard people say "they were never in voice" more times than i can count. hawk is great. i hope hes initiated. thats why i invited him to the discord

I talk with him in voice all the time

05:15

Would love to vote for him whenever we can. Great member

same I talked to him today too super chill guy

05:25

I told him keep staying in vc and not to be afraid

He seems super chill, I agree. And he is much more active in chat than Phoenix was. I would like to build with him and get to know him a bit better before voting though. Did he participate in the logo, transmutation circle, or cloud club?

14:52

Also a bonus for the "Hooked on Phonics" reference. That and Ritalin defined 90s education.

Hes been inactive since June when Valerian fell

15:18

Until i got him in here for the christmas base

So he was at Valerian base. That's a good sign.

Me and a few others know him. Hes 100% mason material

2

17:06

Charlie does the best (edited)

he is my best friend on 2b

23:53

best builder ive known personally

23:56

would be a great fit for the masons

i mean for hawk its been proposed and everyone will be fine with it im just afraid of cramming too much initiates right after each other and i really hope hes gonna stay active after prio runs out we can make him yello..

becoming a mason would give him reason to be active

Let’s do that.

00:23

Make him yellow.

nobody tell him

1

Lol

Month passed ?

07:31

How bout oberfloyd? He’s in vc a lot too

alright he noticed https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/566822250498752551/664330610940313610

Brother Entropy pinned a message to this channel. 11/01/2020 00:03

he's a great builder, active, and trustworthy

00:08

nuff said

awsome dud

I like the tl;dr

00:16

I talked to him in voice yesterday he’s nice.

TLDR is gold

Updoot from me

hawked wants to be at a base that lasts 3+ years............. Maybe this group is not for him

he happily built at christmas base knowing it would be gone in a week

give him time, he might see the benefits of our way

It is time @SpawnMason (edited)

01:17

Cool guy. No objections here

He has been and built at almost every place we had in the last half year reliably 2b player and in agenda i see that he can attend lodges

No TL;DR Dissapointed

01:21

I have no issues I like wailn

my response to Wailn https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sq_Fm7qfRQk/maxresdefault.jpg

Yes

Wailn has been active in the community for a good bit of time and is a great builder. good dud

ye i dont think anyones gonna be able to say anything negative

I could say negative things, but i'd have to nitpick like.... his name seems to be missing at least one vowel...good dude overall.

heh

08:41

ye I have had some great times and great discussions with Wailn

08:41

really really like the dud

08:41

cubes is right tho, had issues spelling his name in the beginning

08:41

just like mattvtd

wailn is TOO OLD

09:06

sorry grandpa gonna have to say no

09:06

next initiate please

i love todarac

Who is oldest mason?

17:43

Terbin?

17:44

Or soon to be Wailn?

If former masons count and I haven't been lied to then probably Krobar

Okay but current masons

17:49

I never met krobar

herm ofc

17:51

oh wait you meant oldest as in age?

yes

17:51

current is terbin

proly terbin or warlord

warlord i think

we're missing out if we pass on wailn

^

yes so i am for sure not the oldest member.

Wailn vote is pretty clear

pretty sure giganox is oldest

I can bring initiate gear

Was the last initiation hari?

20:05

That's the last i remember

I think Charlie was after Hari?

20:10

no Hari was the last, I just checked

It was me

20:10

Four? Months ago

Meeting notes of 5 October 2019

20:11

Initiation of Hari

so for anyone saying we should slow down invitations, that has definitely happened

20:12

and we prospered

20:12

nice to get new brothers now

they seem higher quality now

feel we have a stable base

20:12

yes

20:12

you are right

20:12

also because we are more picky now

I do like wailn

20:14

I haven’t gotten to talk to overfloyd much

20:14

I do like Hawd. He’s great.

We picked some pretty good brothers though back when we had an initiation every week tho too a year ago

Hawkd*

20:15

Idk you did let Breithan in....

Agreed Breithan

yeah but "we" also picked some really inactive ones

yes

20:16

I still wonder

20:16

why do people like SalC1 have spawnmason rank?

20:16

or Emperor

20:17

I love the dudes a lot

20:17

but to be in here, I feel you should participate

20:17

they really really do not

Sal had been to more lodges then emperor hasn’t he lol

yes but only in vc usually

20:19

they are not participating in our discussions or our builds

Sal needs money so he can buy food so he can eat!!!!!!

jurv you built mapart at smib

I did do that

honestly

20:19

I'm only saying this

20:19

because I want them to play with us

20:19

they are great duds

~~the map arts were really a baritone "dogfooding" test to see if it was possible fully afk and the answer was more or less yes~~

emperor gets the rank removed regularily then he shows up for just the right amounts of meetings to get it back and then goes away

20:20

ah well

20:20

perhaps all that doesn't matter

Personally I'm just not bothered by one more offline name in the sidebar, like what does it take away from the experience for those who are here? Nothing in my eyes

maybe we should have a special rank for those type of people?

perhaps

20:22

yea leijurv, but we don't just let anyone in

20:22

so you work for it once

20:22

once you have that postion

20:22

you lean back

20:22

if that's fine - it's fine with me

Most failed initiates in recent months failed due to inactivity

or we require more regular ingame attendance for SM rank

yes, but there are people who do the sprint of activity

20:23

then don't show their faces much

20:23

ye I think that's a good idea jordan

something for the agenda tomorrow?

yes

20:24

calm and rational discussion preferred

I have not ben un calm since Ain and Henry left lol

not towards you at all

yeah this is getting heated and irrational let's table this until tomorrow

and again, I never felt that you were attacking me personally back then

20:26

it was that it wasn't done proper (edited)

20:26

and I respect that a lot

20:26

(discord ownership)

I really do feel like I missed out on a ton of juicy drama due to fucking around as a guest April to July

20:26

Rofl

❤️ you terbin

likewise brother

Masons back the were memes sunday-friday and then heated arguing and yelling on saturdays. Then back to memes again

tru

20:28

happy we found that boring at some point

20:31

this is the reason @Brother leijurv

Yeah I know

20:31

It was completely true too (edited)

:)

We are now the StableMasons

what does that mean?

I remember thinking wtf is he even in here lol

We are stable

ah ye

I legit do not play-play minecraft

And emotionally mature

I was thinking of the place for horses

I only play it ironically

Babysitting my client and fixing bugs while making the obby circle like what I did for most of yesterday is so far removed from playing the game that I don't think it even counts

I was triggered that leijurv didn’t even play 2B lol

he did log on once in a while tho

20:44

and did have prio often

20:44

what's the minimum definition to pass for playing 2b

20:44

I wonder

=P

20:45

From joining this discord to getting initiated I didnt join 2b once, it was Constantiam only

20:45

xD

really?

20:45

I thought you logged on earlier

That's my best recollection

my mistake

Yes before joining

yes

20:45

exactly

I'm not counting the April fools 1.13 map (edited)

makes sense

20:46

ok still paints a clearer picture

20:46

thx

20:48

Awwww ILY terbin

21:13

❤️

Terbin redpilled and based

Yay wailn blue name

green name!

purple name

Name color!

05:18

Can I be pink

can you shh

when and why did I lose applicant committee rank? I just noticed :/

people that are in the group for a bit, are reliably active in voice and in game i change it every week like spawnmason rank but even quicker removal

big sad

dielo winter is almost over you better start being here every week again

yes plz

I havent missed one meeting lol

22:41

just not ingame

pero porque

other than the mason logo ofc

22:41

30% lack of prio queue and 70% irl issues (edited)

and a 100% reason to remember the name

^

I request a waiver for in game attendance due to ski team

sorry only special attendance symbols when you build the lodge and then fail to attend

ok count me for the one on the underside of the spawn logo xD

fair enough

what do you think about adding HaxxorElite as a guest and see what he does?

2

22:33

I talked with him and he said that he isnt with armorsmith anymore just there to post his vids. So he is a proper nomad (as fit would call him) nowadays

Possible. I recall him getting emotional when last denied however.

22:36

Or am I thinking of someone else having a problem getting rejected?

Nomad cringe

probably someone else, i dont think he has been here before @entropyanndroid (edited)

1

Remember only guests we fullt trust

2

Are we going to reproduce the public/private Discord model of the Society?

I dont mean that

22:48

and I trust him tbh

22:48

but I understand if you dont. after all he doesnt have the cleanest history

Having points of strict separation like the Society has might be a smart idea moving forward. Given the recent scares we might want to put letting him in as a guest to a vote at the next lodge meeting.

oh I see what you mean now. good idea

Ive been talking to haxxor as well over the past month, once in vc recently for the first time

23:06

seemed cool tbh

he sounds too swedish

I like haxxor

23:35

but I don't think he's mason material atm

What chats does he frequent? I'm willing to give an effort to talk to him before making a decision.

terbin, can you ellaborate? totally alright if no

Doesnt he grief?

Solid no to haxxor

yike

I don't know much about haxxor.... But I also don't trust a lot about haxxor.

Just a feeling iron

ok yea I understand all your worries

trolle

Who is Brady ?

i hope your serious (edited)

brady gets guest because he was on board with adding mason logo to everyones nametags in impact

07:51

(brady is other impact dev hari brainlet

) (edited)

I don’t use impact. Thanks for clarifying.

08:22

Leijurv is ebpic

brr br br body buddy? buddy!!! https://youtu.be/jroGpOrhjlE?t=9

Eric Escobedo

Mr incredible meets incrediboy (buddy)

With regards to Haxxor, I have a strong suspicion that he leaked my cloud base back in the early days of its construction. I don't think he should be invited into the discord. Please dont go telling him this, because I am not 100% sure that he leaked my base, but I think that it would be in all of our interests to not have him

22:37

I suspect that he leaked it to Retro, who then leaked it to Jared (leading to the first grief of my cloud base) (edited)

golden asking again =/

were satisfied on guests right now :p

k

I thought you wanted Dect

Have we seen enough from floyd to come to a conclusion

let's give it just a weee bit more time

19:03

in the new place

19:03

until we decide

19:03

what do you think?

19:04

or is that waiting too long?

queues been pretty fucked lately and has messed up some peoples activity im willing to wait

sounds good

i like floyd

when did we wanted to vote about floyd?

i think we might wait just a little bit longer

20:30

let him get a foothold at the new place

20:31

I don't have the feeling he feels left out

20:31

that being said, we should of course not wait forever

20:32

would be awkward to deny him, since he is at our place

I got denied when I was at smibville

20:33

Didn’t think it was v awkward at all

What did overfloyd build at smibville?

watch the vid

wheres the spreadsheet lol

20:40

im on my laptop

floating island

20:40

ice castle

20:40

and something more?

helped us with the dragons

he recently released this

20:43

https://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/floydicus-old-pack/

Floydicus Old Pack Minecraft Texture Pack

Hello people last year I started a private resource pack which had the goal of reproducing Minecraft Beta as much as possible first started with textures then developed into custom models blockstates and everything in the between. After working on it for nearly a year with fe...

20:43

after working on it for months

20:43

first comment

wait (edited)

20:46

OverFloyd is PinkusFloydicus?

20:46

I had no idea

yes

20:46

same person

but is he german

italian

NICE

not everyone in the masons is german

https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353428205723713536/668898735727575041

Is it too soon to vote on Hawk? I built this lodge with the hope to initiate him there, but since we moved it up to this week, I'm afraid we won't be able to. (edited)

don't feel it's too soon

he's been here for a while

Maybe I'm misreading the room, but I feel he's a pretty easy vote anyway. (edited)

I feel the same

Hawked is high quality, has been in voice, and has been here for a long while

if you built the lodge for his initiation

@Brother Entropy What do you think? I know you were thinking we should wait a bit longer. Would you be opposed to voting? (edited)

would be nice if he could be initiated there

00:55

wasn't entropy speaking about floyd when speaking about waiting?

00:55

on the other hand

00:55

https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353423878137315329/664259801475448833

00:56

his prio ran out I guess :)

00:56

he's been relatively quiet

He re-uped

noice

00:56

and I know he wants to do a new version of his smib build

Yeah. He has big plans for the new base.

hawked has been active on the server for like 6 weeks after being gone for a long while

Perfect then

i just want to be sure that hell play on

A "long while" being a few months. Lots of guys go inactive for a few months after a big base ends. (edited)

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I vote yes to hawk he’s super chill

I think hawk is a legit 2b boi. As in, he's here forever.

01:09

Not to mention, we could wait a few weeks and vote, then he could still leave. There's no way to guarantee any one of us will stick around. We just form relationships that are worth staying for. I feel like in the short time I've know hawk, we've formed a relationship that can only grow from here. I know other guys who know him even better than I do. If he's not an easy Yes vote, I don't know who is.

do any of these points not hold for floyd

I don't know Floyd super well, but others could make the case.

i feel weird about changing the order rather do both then lol

01:20

i mean; tell me its now and id fight for both at this point

I just confirmed that Hawk is available and will be able to attend the lodge on Saturday.

I vote we do both this saturday

01:53

lol actually I’m not here Saturday

01:53

Oops

floyds been init for a month and hawk for 3weeks time is in reason for both and i feel like boomerangs lines above tell us how we can wait 2 weeks and end up at the exact same conclusion plus he wants people to be initiated in his toilets floyd spends his time around spawn fixing old stuff built with us at cloud club and smibville hawk is a known builder we saw him at the christmas place and smib both made it to the new place i think both have very good connections to a good part of the group are very safe bets @SpawnMason https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353423878137315329/665345014259515392/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353423878137315329/660826838125510686/unknown.png

Smib

Summon the vote masons? (edited)

I need argumentation here hello

Who's going to object? (edited)

01:57

@SpawnMason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv1zu79377A

daphnener

Terry Reid - Speak Now or Forever Hold Your Peace

I ❤️ overfloyd and hawk. known and trusted hawk for nearly 2 years and he's been active on 2b for way longer than that. known overfloyd for over a year and like him v much. think they would both be awesome

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Both high quality candidates that I would defend the character of, and would certainly vote yes for.

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I've known Floyd for a good while now, he's an awesome guy and very dedicated player. Hawk I haven't known for as long but he also is very cool and an amazing builder

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I think Entropy wants some heated debate here.

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I tried but he got upset

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lol

02:02

He deleted that meme shit.

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yes

Both seem like excellent candidates. We should build a Thunderdome for them.

Yes. Whoever wins gets in as brother.

Vote Masons

my first interaction with floyd was even before the masons, when he found GP and left a sign and later msgd me. I had a great time with him at smib and i really like talking to him. I also like about him, that he respects old stuff and sometimes does a few renovations if he considers it to be a good thing. Hawk i dont know so much, but i think he's an amazing builder and having him at smib was amazing. I also had good talks with him and he seems trustworthy. I think both of those are good fits with us.

Hawk def, don't know floyd that much be he seem chill

smib

YOOO! I don't wanna speak too soon, but I think we might be bout to have some new baby brothers. TWINS!

hot damn! congrats

this vote could totally still turn around

Sure

15/17 is already 88%

the real question is who are those 2

Nekramite and Giganox, I think

boomerang wants me to call it in but he doesnt realise that i will give the 24h no matter how pointless it is

No, I don't want you to call it in.

14:51

I never said that.

14:51

they passed.

15:09

except if s.o. changes their mind of cause

some one is not enough - must be more I think

Maybe no one voted no because the reaction wasn't there and adding a new reaction is a lot of work. Ugh

i didnt vote no, since i wanted to vote yes

does that apply to you Boomerang?

I voted yes because I prefer three letter words over lousy two letter ones.

15:25

Also, because I think both of these bois are a bit of the shit.

agreed

boomerang wants me to call it in but he doesnt realise that i will give the 24h no matter how pointless it is

MFW he did not do it for UFO

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DUDE TWINS

I ❤️ UFO now but at the time I didnt lol

That’s so cute!!

17:23

I ❤️ Jordan

ily Jordan I wish I never scammed u

Yo what if they are identical twins that would be insane @Bromger Boomerang

We gotta make em change skins.

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x D

invite Bananenvorkauer as a guest to see how he is?

this is german for Banana-pre-chewer

who is it and whats his "story"?

I like the name

i mean. his name is really funny

22:02

who is he?

22:02

what does he do?

22:02

how new is he?

22:03

who is he friends with?

I found him on the highway to the border. He isnt in a group but also he is not that new since he has gear and stuff

22:37

I like him so I felt like giving him a chance. but I understand if he shouldnt be invited

people throw out gear to randos like its nothing

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You guys know respect club still exists

https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353423878137315329/674020812029689856 yea true (edited)

I never use respect club

Respect club is great

Mr_Pint has been hanging around more recently. I like it. This isn't a vouch for initiate. I'm just saying it's good to have him around.

I feel like picking up randos is not the way to go

07:22

guests should either be longtime friends/close friends or well known 2b players

Yes this

07:52

Epic well known player Hari

I see a huge difference between guests that are only invited to be guests and guests that are potential initiates

guests should either be longtime friends/close friends or well known 2b players

Yes I totally agree, people you can trust

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Brother Entropy pinned a message to this channel. 08/02/2020 20:52

lol

If it gets that far I call vouching for Rebane

no

I vouch too for rebane

if i dont get to vouch for popstonia im going to lose my shit

Fuck you I tried to bring him here first

guys

02:23

fuck this hari guys we should vote no

02:23

hahaha

02:23

unless?

nothing against rebane but its too early and i want him to be around as guest for a while first also it doesnt matter who vouches for him, hes gonna be lamps kid if anyones

https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/533067002919649281/673601364747878400 (edited)

agreed

when did he got invited?

19:55

I only noticed he was here a few days ago

a few days ago

https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353428205723713536/680871135159648257

Are we going to vote on Mac

22:31

Pull this nibba in

neggshd weeg

in a week or so im not convinced yet well just go to general lol

I vouch yes

What about how I actively tried to bring Rebane in, but ufo said no? @Brother Entropy @brother terbin

that is actually tru

https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/533067002919649281/673607648310198292

I vouch for @[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3 and @Jammicu

^

you have to do it in the lodge

I vouch for @Brother Entropy

14:01

also rebane is cool

what about Dectonic?

did any of these people even show interest in joining?

Dec is in vc very often

dec would def want to join but i feel that its too early for all

and I believe he helped with some lodges(?)

I WUV dectonic

^

me and dec go way back

I like him he's nice

19:36

Also World Downloader master

19:36

And bases take carer

he is a bit too dick sucky

yeah I definitely dont trust him

https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353423878137315329/683671056812343302 do it in lodge and have someone second

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Unironically bring alpha back

no

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unpopular opinion above

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D_Loaded should get his brother rank restored?

1) after he gets to a lodge for the 3° meme 2) no objection

But he could have the 1* rank?

its been so ridiculously long that wed better do the let-in vote

22:31

i think

22:32

even though he was never kicked (except by you haha catflushed

) (edited)

herm maybe you should write 5 lines since 80% of the people cant remember him

D_Loaded is the person I joined 2b2t with. I've known him for about 6 years now. He's the founder of the DonFuer bases, and was an active Mason during the first iteration. After I disbanded the first time he took a break from Minecraft but is back now. He's a great builder and a great friend. He really contributes well to bases too.

i dont trust him staying active too much but i guess he deserves his 1° regardless

can @brother noname @snugglebugaj enlighten us why they dont like

uhhhh

01:19

I just don't really like him from what I know about him.

01:20

and I think his builds are over glorified (yes I know I'm a bad builder not mucb room to talk)

i think his build style is relatively restricted but he's good at what he's builds frequently (edited)

01:20

everyone is like that really though

fair enough ;b

Agreed with Charlie very much

I'm all for considering D_Loaded for return but I think giving him a couple of weeks or more like with any initiate to show consistent activity first would be best. (edited)

That would be for the spawnmason rank perhaps. But his 1* rank should come, no? @entropyanndroid

Oh, yeah you're right. He can have his degree without necessarily being active. Kind of like Mothra recently.

Sorry, I misread Entropy's response to the original question. (edited)

I think rank 1 would be ok - if he was never kicked

ive kind of already waited with mac_tonight for too long @SpawnMason https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353423878137315329/675806234548633621/unknown.png?width=700&height=677

10:47

I really dont dislike the dude but i kind of never see him (though maybe thats timezones again) and im afraid he wont be an active involved member id rather vote no and maybe give him another chance later on when he feels more invested

10:48

but please convince me if im wrong

I agree

I don't see him talk that much here as well, like only when someone actually pings him.

nice dude but doesn't show his face much

10:50

perhaps you can convince him to do that more Jumbo?

agreed with Entropy

jumbo left again terbin

I agree too, he seems a bit absent

oh, did he say why?

he came to one meeting, vouched for mac and i hadnt seen him since never said a thing about leaving i dont think he cared all that much (edited)

is that vouch even legit in that case lol

what singular achievement does he have?

15:39

imo, we should not be inviting anyone unless they have actual achievements (edited)

we'll just tell him the dude who vouched for him left without saying anything xd

mac is an awesome dude, who has done quite a lot on the server. very active. i doubt he would want to join after all that happened recently and without jumbo i wouldnt think he would at all. i'll ask what he wants to do

I think Mac would be a good addition but we should perhaps consider a process by which those with doubts in the group can better get to know him, personality and play style. I've heard nothing but good things about Mac_Tonight but have interacted with him little. I would like to interact with him directly a bit before voting yay or nay on him. (edited)

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We be sitting here in app committe talking about mac tonight, who I do like, but we're ignoring cloverfrost who would be an excellent addition

if she would do things sure lol

she's an ultra epic person I just can't guarantee her activity

22:26

she's got real life obligations n stuff

real life sucks

having real life obligations

tbhtbh

I haven't encountered Cloverfrost. What VCs does she frequent? Will scope her out.

I DONT THINK SHE FREQUENTS ANY vcS, SHE'S JUST A NICE PERSON AND A GOOD BUILDER

aussie but she has irls

03:47

thanks hari for EMPHASIS

She's here now so we can now speak to her.

bro.. the censorship in the channel.

Girl?

I brother Nordic votch for rebane2001

votch registered

yes hello for rebane

Yes

wait i have a deja vu

21:25

this happened before but where

I vouch too

In #spawnmason

I want to vouch too tho :((

You can

23:08

Gonna be lamps baby tho in the chart

I asked to invite him first smh

True - it should be yours

23:13

Breithan cockblocked you

actually ufo cockblocked me

Both

what?

When hari suggested rebane

23:14

You said that you couldn’t see any reason why rebane should be in the masons

was that a long time agao i dont remember it

https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/353428205723713536/647990308461871126

23:15

A bit - November

well as for the initiate being your child you have to the first to tell entropy. i invited hawk but i didnt get him as my baby

Oh

i dont know why i said that for rebane but it was before he did alot of his recent websites and vids. rebane could make a good mason i think

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rebanes website was live, just not his vids

not his map wall

I asked to invite him first smh

https://discordapp.com/channels/343851086026637313/533067002919649281/673607648310198292

I definitely feel like he contributes to the server community in a unique way. Would be really cool to have him with us

Ah nice entropy

06:09

Forgot about that

My opinion on rebane - I'd vote to keep him as iniciate for a few weeks to see if he remains active, i spoke to the dude a while back when I wanted to invite him and he said he probably wouldnt be very active, so i'd like to see him continue joining VCs like he has been. He is a very very nice guy, and has helped out the mapping community immensly. I think he would be a great addition to the spawn masons if he continues activity, but im slightly worried of another Zetlin situation.

06:25

He is also a very good coder, and would make a great additon to the Code Masons.

oh actually

06:32

good point

06:32

how long has rebane played on the server?

hes been playing for a while

06:35

he made his mapart program a few months after i joined, so hes been a minimum 9 months.

okay thats not bad

he writes his own hack client

06:48

he can debug minecraft

06:48

servers and client

06:48

builds

06:48

he's the whole package

06:48

but yea, god knows how long he will keep interest in 2b

06:48

I really felt though, that he was looking for people to connect.

06:49

after I wrote with him a bit because I wanted his help in programming something to convert map.dats to pngs, we started talking a lot and he seems to have a LOT of fun on the server.

06:49

one of the most wholesome dudes I know

06:49

he buys prio for dudes who's base he has coordinate exploited

06:49

tells them to not map their base

06:49

and things like that

thats wholesome af. Regardless of how actively he olays 2b, he does enjoy the exploit/community aspect of it. He wasn't playing a ton when i messaged him before yet he still created the Mapa rtist website and has his own custom boatfly hack that's "Faster then elytra fly overworld" from our DMs. (His popstonia videos provide proof of this)

yes he's doing his 2. solo base now i think

literally almost as wholesome as Boomerang

02:36

holy shit people from 2001 are actually 19 now

02:37

did anyone ask before or after september

I’m 2001 and 19 lol

Filthy millennials

We arnt millennials

03:30

Millennials are like 25

millennials are 24-41 according to wikipedia

Oh what?

03:45

41? someone can be 41 and be a Millennial?! lol

1980-95 lol

If you were born after 9/11 your opinion does not matter

and older people than you say, if you were born after the fall of the berlin wall, your opinion doesn't matter

The soviet soul will never leave my russian body

07:49

For it is for the motherland we prevail

If you were born after The Corona virus your opinion doesn't matter

hehehe

If you were born during the Corona virus your opinion matters more

I love what he put in brackets in who he already knew

11:25

I wanted to write something like that too in my app because I was rly unsure who to put in. But then I think I left it away because I didnt want to annoy anyone. I think I also removed some people in there because I was afraid someone would test who I put in

lul

11:26

I never made an application

i think i did, but I don't remember what I wrote

owo

Rebane approved on the terms he merges Popstonia with the masons

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What is that?

popstonia becomes a.... subgroup?

05:53

what?

spawn popstonia's

Why would we want to do that