Spawnmasons - smibling-chat

I know most people on transfem HRT are anecdotally significantly weaker post-HRT

but i read some body builder research from years ago

Smibling bleh

they take another thing that lets you gain weight fast

insulin? (edited)

and they tested estradiol and found it to not be as effective as another synthetic estrogen (edited)

Smibling bleh

they take another thing that lets you gain weight fast

Pizza Hut?

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i wonder if there is any downsides of taking estrogen (other then the obvious)

you get roid rage from cycling hormones (edited)

having too much of the wrong sex hormones feels terrible

[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3

I know most people on transfem HRT are anecdotally significantly weaker post-HRT

ofc

Smibling bleh

they take another thing that lets you gain weight fast

depends on the phase, during bulks yes, but during cuts they take fat burners

yes

are you on the juice zippie?

[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3

having too much of the wrong sex hormones feels terrible

and having too little of the right ones feels terrible too

Gebrüder Zippie

i wonder if there is any downsides of taking estrogen (other then the obvious)

Not sure what "the obvious" means for you, but it changes how you think a lot. It makes you have more emotions and different senses, and you also go through puberty again.

Brother Emperor

are you on the juice zippie?

nahhh

Gebrüder Zippie

nahhh

im lowkey thinking about it

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Not sure what "the obvious" means for you, but it changes how you think a lot. It makes you have more emotions and different senses, and you also go through puberty again.

by the obvious i mean non intended ones :), you are becoming a woman and i mean anything outside that

11:25

like for example when u take test your balls shrink

11:25

get akne

11:25

ect.

Brother Emperor

im lowkey thinking about it

11:25

how jacked are you?

11:25

you only get the green card to do it if u look more jacked then me sunglasses_cat

natty limit

Gebrüder Zippie

by the obvious i mean non intended ones :), you are becoming a woman and i mean anything outside that

I mean that's the only thing that happens but it might not be obvious what it entails

(send pics)

There are no side effects that are unrelated

zippie for the LAST TIME, i'm not sending you shirtless pictures, dont ask again

i will send you mine if u send me urs

thats not a bonus

emperor can you send me t shirt pictures

gay sex is only in the gooning room

11:26

no esex

[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3

emperor can you send me t shirt pictures

I only wear polos

ok then what are ur measurments

11:26

(not cock/ball size) (edited)

Brother Emperor

I only wear polos

it's easier to take pics of shirts when you're not actively wearing them

9.5 and 4 liters

11:27

FUCK

like arm/leg circumfrence

no idea tbh

big arm

wants to hop on gear and doesnt even know how big he is

i can do 6 pull ups with 50 added lbs tho

Brother Emperor

i can do 6 pull ups with 50 added lbs tho

means your small sunglasses_cat

11:28

i can do like 7 at 92kg bw

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with 0 added weight lol

11:28

but my back is pretty weak for what its worth

11:29

def my worst body part when it comes to muscle

Gebrüder Zippie

i can do like 7 at 92kg bw

wow that's even heavier than me

11:29

you should lift me

(at 180cm)

11:29

Gebrüder Zippie

with 0 added weight lol

smh

11:30

I can do ~16 without added weight

if u do a lot of body building training your unlikely to be able to do a lot of pull ups bc your heavy lol

I lift for POWER, only compounds

how much do u weigh?

165 freedom units

Brother Emperor

I lift for POWER, only compounds

yeee for the first 1.5 years of lifting i did body building training and only in the last couple of months i do powerlifting

Brother Emperor

165 freedom units

how tall?

nice

bc then your def not near natty limit lol

11:32

you just need to eat more

I know, I'm sick of not being huge and want to cheat

the thing is, if ur not able to do the natty basics perfectly first, your not gonna be managing your cycles perfectly lol

11:33

and the side effects aint worth it lol

11:33

imo

there aren't any if you stay within the normal human range, you get most of the perks and none of the downsides

why would you do it?

do u know ur current levels?

Brother Emperor

there aren't any if you stay within the normal human range, you get most of the perks and none of the downsides

i wouldnt say none (edited)

yes, but they will remain classified

lul

11:35

but yeah, it just takes A LOT of managing

11:35

also the second u start taking steroids, your progress stops counting

11:35

[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3

why would you do it?

like what's your goal

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[HR/PR/G] Rebane v3

like what's your goal

something like this

lol

strength, size the usual

Evil Hulk

do the natty things right first, then if ur still not satisfied hop on

11:38

but if ur 75kg u def still have natty progress to make lol

I did, I got injured and lost a lot of progress

rip

I'm not even at the eugene limit right now

then go to the eugene limit

(with the juice)

(no)

11:38

the cost is so high with such small benifit

11:38

unless you want to go pro or smth

11:38

just eat more

my brother got on it and he's like a different person now

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go giga beast mode with food

in a good way zippie

wdym?

11:39

like what?

more energy, gained a ton of weight (muscle), and it just a better version of himself

with smaller balls

no there's stuff you take to make them produce T

11:40

he has it through a doctor

and increase in chance of heart failure

Brother Emperor

he has it through a doctor

doesnt matter how u get it, still has the same effect

he fasted for 5 days and did some other stuff to crash his T levels to get a doctors note for it

11:41

ngl kinda based tho

11:41

just anything but healthy lol

yeah but he was at 389 mg/dl (or whatever the fucking units are) before he did his fasting thing

ah

thats not normal or healthy for a young man

yeah thats still pretty low

11:42

then its different

11:42

if u have generally low test levels, taking trt isnt bad

and you'd have never guessed it, he was jacked, now he's more jacked

what bf was he at b4?

I'm not sure, he's way more built then me tho

bc if hes at a super low b4 it would explain the low test

no that wasn't it

11:43

he was never super lean

ah

11:44

yeah, then its prob some other issue and trt isnt bad

micro plastics and seed oils reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

lol

Gebrüder Zippie

yeah, then its prob some other issue and trt isnt bad

trt is just roids >:(