Only did half of my reps as I had to meet up with some friends
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Today I did
Treadmill (5 mins)
Squats 2x30
toe presses 200 x 10 2 sets
Leg extension 100x10 2 sets
Leg press 260 x 10 2 sets
Prone Leg Curl 90 x 10 2 sets
Seated Abductor Stretches 90x10 2 sets
Bike 1 mile
btw on the first day i only turned strava on after climbing ~900 feet, you can tell because day 2 shows that the parking lot was at like 700ft elevation but day 1 only started recording at like 1600ft, the tldr is that i did EVEN MORE impressive hiking than this data shows(edited)
btw on the first day i only turned strava on after climbing ~900 feet, you can tell because day 2 shows that the parking lot was at like 700ft elevation but day 1 only started recording at like 1600ft, the tldr is that i did EVEN MORE impressive hiking than this data shows(edited)
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then you have people like athlean-x, Ryan Hummiston, etc. who are basically full of shit and just trying to farm content/sell you things
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My tl;dr is that the most important things about fitness are: hard work, sustainability (don't use shit form basically), and consistency with the basics
I am definitely into "science" fitness, but honestly the amount of hard work that you put in is THE most important part. You can have an absolutely shit program and make good progress if you work hard. Or, conversely the most "scientifically perfect" program does nothing if you do not.
Yeah I dont see a reason for me to use so much shit
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I am definitely into "science" fitness, but honestly the amount of hard work that you put in is THE most important part. You can have an absolutely shit program and make good progress if you work hard. Or, conversely the most "scientifically perfect" program does nothing if you do not.
me too, but I'm not even sure if I would call it a supplement. It's basically just a food, and I take 1-2 scoops per day to ensure that I hit target of 150g protein /day
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you can (and should) try to get as much of your nutrition from minimally processed real foods
me too, but I'm not even sure if I would call it a supplement. It's basically just a food, and I take 1-2 scoops per day to ensure that I hit target of 150g protein /day
me too, but I'm not even sure if I would call it a supplement. It's basically just a food, and I take 1-2 scoops per day to ensure that I hit target of 150g protein /day
for the most part i dont rly have a say in what i eat for lunch i eat a plate of fruit and whatever i want to get for lunch at school that day (usually something from my local döner shop or something from the grocery store)
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and for dinner its whatever my dad cooks usually lol
I tracked everything I ate with MyFitnessPal for about 6 months while cutting from 175->145 (before lifting which in retrospect was dumb). I think the most useful things I got out of the was: learning what foods actually contain, approximate calories, and also learning true maintenance calories for my body
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Also weighed self every day and logged in a spreadsheet
It is exhausting, and definitely led to some eating disorder behaviors in me :/. I don’t do it anymore for those reasons, but I do think on the whole it was valuable for me
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It is exhausting, and definitely led to some eating disorder behaviors in me :/. I don’t do it anymore for those reasons, but I do think on the whole it was valuable for me
Nice! When you say 110 lbs on pull ups what do you mean?
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and similar on dips, just curious, seems unlikely you’re adding 110lbs to your body weight (weighted pull ups and dips), and 110 would be very light for your body weight. Maybe body weight - assistance from a machine?
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and similar on dips, just curious, seems unlikely you’re adding 110lbs to your body weight (weighted pull ups and dips), and 110 would be very light for your body weight. Maybe body weight - assistance from a machine?
I have decided to forgoe the 6 pack for now. At my absolute leanest, I was ~12% bf, but also weighed only 150lbs. I spent the last 1.5 years bulking to 165, and even though they are not as visible, long term this is really the only way to put on significant muscle mass.
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There are some people who can remain very lean and make significant size/strength gains but it is a small minority
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I plan to keep going until I feel that the trade off of strength/size to body fat is no longer worth it.
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Cutting fat is much easier and faster than building muscle
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Can be done on the order of months rather than years
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There are some people who can remain very lean and make significant size/strength gains but it is a small minority
Tbh, I would work on that before considering supplements. Consistency, effort, and diet (specifically enough protein) are FAR more important. The supplements make only an incremental difference.(edited)
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Tbh, I would work on that before considering supplements. Consistency, effort, and diet (specifically enough protein) are FAR more important. The supplements make only an incremental difference. (edited)
I missed leg day on Saturday because hung over from birthday the previous night :P. It’s the first workout I missed in about a year . Even on vacation I found a gym.
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I missed leg day on Saturday because hung over from birthday the previous night :P. It’s the first workout I missed in about a year . Even on vacation I found a gym.
yep plus my body breaks alcohol down SUPER slowly so i was still feeling a buzz the whole day and a little the day after so i wouldnt have been feeling good driving lol
I have only puked once due to exercise. It was a 16 mile day, 4000’ elevation gain, in blazing hot sun and got dehydrated. Had a few sips of beer at the car and puked
Upper body yesterday:
Bench press
One arm row
Dumbbell overhead press
Cable pull down
Dumbbell incline press
Lateral raise
Spider curls
Cable push down(edited)
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Upper body yesterday:
Bench press
One arm row
Dumbbell overhead press
Cable pull down
Dumbbell incline press
Lateral raise
Spider curls
Cable push down (edited)
You only rly need protein powder, diet, sleep and consistency and if u got to a point where u don’t progress anymore then take creatine anything else is not necessary
You only rly need protein powder, diet, sleep and consistency and if u got to a point where u don’t progress anymore then take creatine anything else is not necessary
same. i've always been pretty active and love to eat food, yet i've never broken 65kg. did construction for 2 years straight and that was the heaviest i've been. been sitting 11 hours a day now at my new job and i've lost weight
Brother Nekramite
Do you any tips for bulking? It's prob inevitable for me to have to bulk after the summer to see some big boi gains
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Progress does slow down but most people are still beginners in the sense that they can make good progress without nailing everything wise for multiple years
Tbh the temptation is there to cut but I know that will interfere with making further progress, just have to accept that I will not have 6 pack for a while
Today:
Bench press
One arm row
Dumbbell overhead press
Cable pull down
Lateral raise
Dumbbell curl
Cable push down
Took it fairly easy but should be back to 100% shortly!
I'm skipping cardio and making it a rest day because I skipped 2 days of exercising due to parties and now I feel bad about skipping them and I'm doing them on my usual rest days
Brother Nekramite
I'm skipping cardio and making it a rest day because I skipped 2 days of exercising due to parties and now I feel bad about skipping them and I'm doing them on my usual rest days
Better, I watched this dude on the internet give good healing stretches and its honestly a blessing already feel better comparatively to when it happened(edited)
but I lowkey HAVE to do it, since I'm gonna get a military service invite thingy and I can't go there without having done 0 cardio for like the last half a year or I'm just gonna die lmao
but I lowkey HAVE to do it, since I'm gonna get a military service invite thingy and I can't go there without having done 0 cardio for like the last half a year or I'm just gonna die lmao
I'm in my 30s, really wish I had started this journey about 10 years ago, but I should be able to make most of the gains that a teenager, or 20 something could
also missed your message somehow, basically i try to eat like 80+g of protein (this is a bit on the low end but its what i usually manage) and more specifically its whatever we make for dinner and whatever i get to eat at work (either bread with some sort of spread or ready made meals from lidl with a salad). overall its trying to minimize calories and still getting in 80+g of protein
ok.. sooo a friend of mine and i accidentally arrived at the gym at the same time, he had training for 2 hours but asked if we could do arms after, so i trained chest/back until he was done and then we did arms together (it wasnt quite 4h i think prob more like 3.5)
Gebrüder Zippie
ok.. sooo a friend of mine and i accidentally arrived at the gym at the same time, he had training for 2 hours but asked if we could do arms after, so i trained chest/back until he was done and then we did arms together (it wasnt quite 4h i think prob more like 3.5)
I was able to get that by focusing on scapular retraction when going from a dead hang--basically starting the movement by pulling your scapulae down/back
I did 4 weeks of snatch grip deadlift (basically very wide grip), and I'm doing 4 weeks of these, and my standard deadlift max has gone up substantially
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hard to know if that is just a result of training it more, but I did hit a plateau when just doing 3x5 on it, and varying it up seems to have gotten me past it(edited)
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I got my snatch grip DL up to my previous DL, and then normal DL felt easy in comparison because of the shorter ROM
Been running an estimated caloric deficit of 300ish calories a day most days lately, planning on returning to the gym very soon. Would it be a bad idea to continue with that once i do?(edited)
I'm not particularly weak or overweight so it makes little difference to me. Sounds good though
eepy Joe
Been running an estimated caloric deficit of 300ish calories a day most days lately, planning on returning to the gym very soon. Would it be a bad idea to continue with that once i do? (edited)
I think you should get in the gym as soon as possible, ESPECIALLY in a calorie deficit, because you will maintain your muscle, and even increase it, if you are a beginner
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which means that you will have to lose less weight to get the same effect, and the increased muscle mass uses more energy, and therefore allows you to eat more
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as a complete beginner, 2x week full body is highly effective
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3x week is probably slightly more effective, but 2x is quite good
some people fear that they will get too big, or muscular, from lifting, and the reality is that it takes many years of consistent hard training to achieve that, and even if your only goal is to be fit/lean, weight training is really great
eepy Joe
Been running an estimated caloric deficit of 300ish calories a day most days lately, planning on returning to the gym very soon. Would it be a bad idea to continue with that once i do? (edited)
how often are you weighing yourself? I had the most luck when I weighed myself every morning after using the restroom, and recording it in a spreadsheet. that lets you adjust how much you're eating over time if you're going either too slow or too fast.
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and also taking a measurement every day helps with the large variance in weight that is normal random fluctuation--I only looked at the weekly average
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if you only weigh once a week, you might get luck/unlucky with the randomness, and it throws off the measurement
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how often are you weighing yourself? I had the most luck when I weighed myself every morning after using the restroom, and recording it in a spreadsheet. that lets you adjust how much you're eating over time if you're going either too slow or too fast.
the way this old man just aggressively jumped into my tricep exercise with me without even changing the weight and then walking away made me feel mogged
Unless I’m actually ill I never miss workouts. Even a shitty workout is worth something, and it’s amazing how much better you often feel after being active for a while
It’s a workout split, known as push, pull, legs or ppl for short. First day chest and triceps, second day back and biceps and third day is legs and shoulders, annnd I repeat it again so I’m going to the gym 6x a week
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I used to have a different one before, but decided to try this one
Brother Nekramite
It’s a workout split, known as push, pull, legs or ppl for short. First day chest and triceps, second day back and biceps and third day is legs and shoulders, annnd I repeat it again so I’m going to the gym 6x a week
It implies that you are not training hard enough if you can recover from that
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But definitely worth trying
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Some people have issues with the pull movements (particularly deadlifts if you do those on pill day) causing enough lower back fatigue to interfere with leg training.
i went way too hard on wednesday, im still extremely sore after 3 days can barely lift my arms above my head
maybe shouldve went more easy when its the first time going to gym in like a year
Like this is my bp day:
Back and Biceps
1. Weighted pullups 5kg 3x12
2. Barbell bent-over row 3x12
3. Lat pulldowns 3x12
4. Incline dumbell curls 3x12
5. Back rowing 3x12 and dropset til failure
6. Barbell curls 3x12 again dropset til failure
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Brother Nekramite
Like this is my bp day:
Back and Biceps
1. Weighted pullups 5kg 3x12
2. Barbell bent-over row 3x12
3. Lat pulldowns 3x12
4. Incline dumbell curls 3x12
5. Back rowing 3x12 and dropset til failure
6. Barbell curls 3x12 again dropset til failure
i went way too hard on wednesday, im still extremely sore after 3 days can barely lift my arms above my head
maybe shouldve went more easy when its the first time going to gym in like a year
Today I d_loaded on squat and put plates under my ankles. I'm thinking maybe I was getting buttwink and associated problems because of ankle flexibility issues
Bröther öats
Today I d_loaded on squat and put plates under my ankles. I'm thinking maybe I was getting buttwink and associated problems because of ankle flexibility issues
Hugh Jackman is officially in Wolverine mode. The actor shared a photo of his daily meal plan as his bulking phase goes into overdrive ahead of filming “Deadpool 3,” in which he will re…
by bulking up he means eating in a moderate calorie surplus while training hard, and taking exogenous compounds, followed by eating in a calorie deficit in order to become lean
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8000/day there is no way
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this article is simply a way to deflect from the fact that he took performance enhancing drugs
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and Hollywood is too scared to admit it to their normie fans
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“Over the years people have wondered, did he juice?” Wallace asked. “Did he take steroids?”
“No, I love my job. And I love Wolverine,” Jackman answered. “I got to be careful what I say here, but I had been told anecdotally what the side effects are of that. And I was like, ‘I don’t love it that much.’ So no, I just did it the old school way. And I tell you, I’ve eaten more chickens — I’m so sorry to all the vegans and vegetarians and to the chickens of the world. Literally the karma is not good for me. If the deity has anything related to chickens, I’m in trouble.”
it's weird for an injury to last that long, even a severe one. I think more often than not it can be exacerbated by not wanting to do any training, out of fear
I mean, caffeine is very effective for working out. The problem is that a lot of these things add a bunch of stuff that is detrimental. I’m a big fan of just coffee, creatine, and a dash of salt.
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Because woke people aren’t for freedom of speech generally (edited)
you mean the books that explain gender identity to pre-schoolers? some bans are clearly needed
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much more than what woketards are doing about some older books(having them reprinted with passages edited out or terms and phrases changed for the "modern audience")
Ya dude, they make their money from people paying the subscription and not showing up. People see those cardio machines and think they'll get skinny at that gym
Ya, I remember seeing More Plates More Dates saying that it takes a full month of taking creatine to have the complete beinifits from it, but I couldn't mentally track that through introspection
I don’t really either, I have never done less than 5 reps consistently, and only do the 1 rm as a gauge of progress. I think if i spent a few months on low rep strength specific work it would quickly increase
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My goal is both size and strength at this point and I’m willing to wait on the absolute strength
I’m 35, so I’m definitely slightly at a disadvantage compared to being in 20s but tbh it has not really slowed me down so far. Probably just means that my lifetime peak will be a little less than if I started younger
Been on and off creatine for the past year and a half. From my experience, cycling it has a bigger effect on every new cycle you decide to go on compared to just staying on it for a long time, but thats prolly just broscience.
I did leg press 30-40 reps one training cycle. That was legit hell. Probably not optimal, but I had never done anything that high before and it was an interesting experiment
Maybe this is weird but on max deadlifts I have imagined lifting a car off of my friends kid, as a strategy for putting in the required effort. It did help.
Any stuff you guys would recommend I do? Don't remember a ton of my gym expertise since its been a long time. Atm mostly looking to strengthen heart & lungs and lose some weight. Used to construction lifestyle so my eating habits weren't a problem then but now I work in an office and it's catching up w/ me
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Like I'm sure cardio is a good start, but what else should I do?
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For additional background I am naturally pretty strong and dont particularly care about building muscle or anything
eepy Joe
Any stuff you guys would recommend I do? Don't remember a ton of my gym expertise since its been a long time. Atm mostly looking to strengthen heart & lungs and lose some weight. Used to construction lifestyle so my eating habits weren't a problem then but now I work in an office and it's catching up w/ me
I think the biggest thing is finding a form of exercise you enjoy. If you hate it, it will not last, and being physically active long term is the most important thing for health.
No ik exactly what you mean. Exploring dietary changes as well, although dont think its rocket science really to start by just cutting out overprocessed stuff that's unnecessarily caloricly dense
another perspective: most people when they say they want to lose weight really mean they want to lose fat.
cutting back on what you eat will undoubtedly make you weigh less, some of which will be fat, and some muscle.
even a very rudimentary weight program will make you keep most of the muscle, or perhaps even increase it
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as a beginner that is
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so, it means you will preserve the muscle you have, while almost exclusively losing fat, which will make the process shorter, and leave you with badass muscles
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anyway, biggest thing is to not go ham at the start, and make it sustainiable
Sort of take that part for granted. I'll be doing weight stuff either way though so w/e. Do love doing core exercises though so ez
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Yeah atm the goal is at minimum just to be consistently active at least half an hour a day, and have at least 10 minutes straight of running. Very lowball to start off and will scale up as time goes on
eepy Joe
Yeah atm the goal is at minimum just to be consistently active at least half an hour a day, and have at least 10 minutes straight of running. Very lowball to start off and will scale up as time goes on
My recommendation is two things
1. Habit. You need to form a habit wether it’s every Monday, Wednesday, Friday. And having friends to hold you responsible to also really helpful. It’s about forming a new habit which will have lasting effects
2. Cardio for losing weight is really good(edited)
Any stuff you guys would recommend I do? Don't remember a ton of my gym expertise since its been a long time. Atm mostly looking to strengthen heart & lungs and lose some weight. Used to construction lifestyle so my eating habits weren't a problem then but now I work in an office and it's catching up w/ me
What mothra already said, also stair machine/climbing stairs is op in terms of calorie burning. Put on some good vibes music while you do it and it’s enjoyable as well.
What I did to go from skinny fat to lean was to:
1. Not drink anything besides water, no juices, sodas, alcohol or anything like that.
2.Also tried to stick to the most basic version of foods so the food wouldn’t be over processed and full of random calories, and didn’t eat after 10pm and ate around 2-3 meals a day.
3. Did at least a 20 min run. This probably requires some getting used to so starting off with a 10 min jog is a
4. After the run also did 15-20 mins of intense biking, with basically whatever speed that lets you achieve that timeframe, but upping the speed every time so I wouldn’t get too comfy with the pace.
This all is stuff that worked for me, you can for sure change some stuff up, but this fuckin worked and seeing that was so amazing after years of being skinny fat (edited)
It depends on your split, the three most common are bro split (a different muscle per day like arms, shoulders, back, chest, legs), push-pull (splitting it up into push exercises like bench and triceps, pull like back and biceps, and legs), or full body which doesn’t base the training on muscle group. As long as your abs training is done with sets and reps and not some sort of 10 min abs training, you could throw abs in any of those without real consequence. However, if you’re doing bro split, it might be a little less efficient on large compound days like chest, back, and legs
I'm mainly doing cardio, but i payed for the membership and might as well use the equipment some
Brother YoMo
It depends on your split, the three most common are bro split (a different muscle per day like arms, shoulders, back, chest, legs), push-pull (splitting it up into push exercises like bench and triceps, pull like back and biceps, and legs), or full body which doesn’t base the training on muscle group. As long as your abs training is done with sets and reps and not some sort of 10 min abs training, you could throw abs in any of those without real consequence. However, if you’re doing bro split, it might be a little less efficient on large compound days like chest, back, and legs
Notable information the more muscle you hold onto, the more calories you burn while resting (via muscle repair and like, general maintenance too probably)
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I also heard that swimming is super good, even better than running, for burning calories
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(I retract that last statement ab showers it may be untrue)
I personally look at it like this: Weight training, no matter if you're trying to gain weight or lose weight, is what is going to lead to the biggest transformation in your body. If you want to look better do weight training and make small changes in your diet from week to week.
Cardio however is what is going to lead to the biggest change in day to day performance both physically and mentally. You will be happier more clear headed and you wont get tired running 5 meters up a hill or moving a few boxes at work.
You should ofc do both of these but if you are looking for more of a physical change, the weight room is where that is going to happen
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Also main thing is just doing something. No need to complicate things. if you don't do any exercise at all just going on a 5 minute walk after dinner and eating 1 less slice of toast in the morning is a massive improvement. Just do things step by step like that and add a new small thing every week
I mean...he looks like a fucking superhero but WITHOUT the unnatural volume of actors like chris evans or hemsworth that are obviously juiced to their gills
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also, Im envious of those trapezes(or whatever the english word is for the muscle connecting the neck and the shoulder), I defo need to work on that more
Brother Dielo
I mean...he looks like a fucking superhero but WITHOUT the unnatural volume of actors like chris evans or hemsworth that are obviously juiced to their gills
Oh no I definitely want to and I’m gonna try my best for like a year or two, but trying to eat that much is pretty annoying/scary and either time consuming or expensive lmao, I definitely have more of a lean and ripped than a buff strong type of body
I tried bulking but I really dislike overeating and my metabolism is so fast that I need to eat like a motherfucker to even gain regular weight(edited)
last time I tried bulking, I got to 85kg but I felt so fucking heavy to my stomach all the time that I gave up on it and in like a month I was back to 80-81kg :/
Dont have anything crazy like that to post (you guys ROCK and it's awesome seeing your progress )
Just wondering,
Doing chest day today,
Chair Dips Y/N
For that matter, rn the split is looking like:
Chest Day
Back Day
Arm Day
Shoulder & extra running (already running or using stairs everyday)
Leg Day
Is this an effective split and order? I understand some of these days are perhaps more or less difficult than others, just thinking a 5-day split of some sort will be the easiest way to make this routine(edited)
Oh for sure!! If i genuinely am just hurting in that muscle group before i even start the day or something I'll definitely take it easy and not push too hard or anything. 5/week is definitely a lot but I'm confident I can do it at a halfhour or 40 minutes a day.
Last i really went to the gym, it was with a friend that was going into the military. He was an absolute gym fanatic, honestly awesome gym bud to have. Pushed me way too hard tbh though, and i was absolutely miserable most days, but was still able to keep going though. Those were hour and a half sessions though, I have to wonder how much utility there actually was to the second half of that lol. Oftentimes I'd just hop on the treadmill for half of it because everything else was hurting lmao. In any case I was able to do that so I feel good about the current routine as long as I dont overexert myself especially or get hurt or anything(edited)
oh this is also an excellent point, keeping your gym sessions short and efficient helps a lot. Really takes away from the time commitment of going to the gym.
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and yeah overtraining is not fun. I've personally went to the ER with rhabdomyolysis and that shit was scary man.
Dont have anything crazy like that to post (you guys ROCK and it's awesome seeing your progress )
Just wondering,
Doing chest day today,
Chair Dips Y/N
For that matter, rn the split is looking like:
Chest Day
Back Day
Arm Day
Shoulder & extra running (already running or using stairs everyday)
Leg Day
Is this an effective split and order? I understand some of these days are perhaps more or less difficult than others, just thinking a 5-day split of some sort will be the easiest way to make this routine (edited)
I think my main input would be that as a new lifter, you can get great results from 2x week, if you train full body each time. Going 5 days a week is harder to follow through on.
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There are a number of well known beginner programs out there like starting strength and strong lifts that focus on barbell movements.
If you can find someone to show you proper form on those then can be great.
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Can also get good results with machines or dumbbells too
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If you enjoy going to the gym more frequently, by all means go for it, but if you do a fairly limited number of sets per body part, with a high level of effort 2-3x week you will make amazing gains if you have never done it before(edited)
eepy Joe
Oh for sure!! If i genuinely am just hurting in that muscle group before i even start the day or something I'll definitely take it easy and not push too hard or anything. 5/week is definitely a lot but I'm confident I can do it at a halfhour or 40 minutes a day.
Last i really went to the gym, it was with a friend that was going into the military. He was an absolute gym fanatic, honestly awesome gym bud to have. Pushed me way too hard tbh though, and i was absolutely miserable most days, but was still able to keep going though. Those were hour and a half sessions though, I have to wonder how much utility there actually was to the second half of that lol. Oftentimes I'd just hop on the treadmill for half of it because everything else was hurting lmao. In any case I was able to do that so I feel good about the current routine as long as I dont overexert myself especially or get hurt or anything (edited)
That is completely unnecessary especially when new. Literally looking at weights will make you bigger and stronger if it’s new to you.
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If you enjoy going to the gym more frequently, by all means go for it, but if you do a fairly limited number of sets per body part, with a high level of effort 2-3x week you will make amazing gains if you have never done it before (edited)
My personal recommendation would be to not dedicate a single day per body part. To be clear, you WILL get results from that approach, but it is generally considered slightly more effective to train a muscle at least 2x week.
Thus my advocacy for a more full body approach.
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However tbh the main thing that matters is consistency and putting in good effort
Oh i thought a lot of your previous point was that itd just be more time-efficient. I'm going to get more comfortable with the exercises im doing and ill look into shuffling it up in a manner like that perhaps
Lifts the involve multiple muscle groups, such as squats; overhead press, bench, deadlift etc.
Contrasted with isolation exercises that focus on one thing like a curl
Compound exercises are efficient because you train multiple things at the same time, but also a good skill because you learn how to use your body as a unit.
None are necessarily easy :/ however because they are so effective you can start with light weights and focus on getting consistent/confident with them and it is still a great stimulus
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The traditional ones would be:bench press, squat, deadlift, overhead press, pull ups, and rows(edited)
@eepy Joe I’d just get in the habit of going regularly, and have fun. If you start getting more invested, then these details are more important, but none are particularly important for improving your life/health
You got it fellas I'll see about working some of these in!
Did an overhead dumbell exercise today under the mistaken impression it was a mainly back exercise so i guess i have already started a little bit
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The traditional ones would be:bench press, squat, deadlift, overhead press, pull ups, and rows (edited)
Whenever I seriously exert myself and my muscles ache after, they keep going for days and days after. Doesnt hurt, just feels tense and tired out. Calfs still feeling that way from leg day on friday for instance.
Anyone else relate or have suggestions on how to improve this? Kind of been a lifelong thing Not lacking on proteins or fats in my diet or anything, certainly not injured or anything(edited)
I don’t wanna say yeah, but yeahhh? One day when you do your workout, you just don’t feel sore anymore after. I’m probably explaining this horribly lmao
I think I get what you mean, like I shouldn't ignore what my bodys trying to tell me or anything, but like, dont worry too much about being sore if its not bad. Right?
Barely even looking at them, just doing as much as i can. It's a bit rough sometimes, but all the days ive gone so far (3 whole days wow how very many ) I've left knowing I really couldn't have done meaningfully better. I'm happy for whatever I can do and know that it's all for the best
You’ll feel especially sore after working out for the first time. If it’s just muscle soreness (not joint pain) then it is nothing to worry about. The more you train the less sore you are likely to be, your body gets used to it.
I don’t recommend pushing super hard (where you’re sore for days) to start off, mostly because it’s uncomfortable and offers no real benefit.
For me the biggest way to help with soreness if paradoxically to be active at a low level. For example going for an easy walk, or stretching. Sitting on your ass will make you feel much worse.
eepy Joe
Oh no i feel great, i just think its odd im sore 4 days later
Whenever I seriously exert myself and my muscles ache after, they keep going for days and days after. Doesnt hurt, just feels tense and tired out. Calfs still feeling that way from leg day on friday for instance.
Anyone else relate or have suggestions on how to improve this? Kind of been a lifelong thing Not lacking on proteins or fats in my diet or anything, certainly not injured or anything (edited)
There really isn’t anything to do about soreness other than not going excessively hard, and also doing light activity as mentioned above.
Also worth saying that it is not necessary to be sore to have a good workout.
Soreness can be a good indicator that you worked hard enough, but it isn’t directly the goal.
Monday - Chest and Triceps
Tuesday - Break
Wednesday - Back and Shoulders
Thursday - Break
Friday - Arms
Saturday: usually some cardio not a lot
Sunday: Cardio followed by legs
Monday - Chest and Triceps
Tuesday - Break
Wednesday - Back and Shoulders
Thursday - Break
Friday - Arms
Saturday: usually some cardio not a lot
Sunday: Cardio followed by legs
I think it is true that triceps are the bigger muscle group
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and either slightly bigger or slightly smaller than the pecs i remember reading
eepy Joe
Whenever I seriously exert myself and my muscles ache after, they keep going for days and days after. Doesnt hurt, just feels tense and tired out. Calfs still feeling that way from leg day on friday for instance.
Anyone else relate or have suggestions on how to improve this? Kind of been a lifelong thing Not lacking on proteins or fats in my diet or anything, certainly not injured or anything (edited)
Recovery is very important and there are things you can do to improve muscle soreness, basically anything to improve blood flow to the area will make it go away faster (for example: a light massage, lightly using the muscle, being in a generally warm environment, ect.) one thing to note is to not train the muscle hard while it’s sore
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By lightly using the muscle I mean for example going for a quick walk
Gebrüder Zippie
Recovery is very important and there are things you can do to improve muscle soreness, basically anything to improve blood flow to the area will make it go away faster (for example: a light massage, lightly using the muscle, being in a generally warm environment, ect.) one thing to note is to not train the muscle hard while it’s sore
Not sure I agree with not training when sore
Ideally you don’t go so hard that you’re still sore by the next workout, but there isn’t anything fundamentally wrong with training while sore.
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To put it more concretely, I’m not going to skip a workout if I’m sore
_m_o_t_h_r_a_
To put it more concretely, I’m not going to skip a workout if I’m sore
Imo that’s a bad idea, if ur still slightly sore sure that’s fine but if your really sore your working damaged muscle fibers that have a much higher chance to tear under load
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The muscle is trying to heal
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If you are really sore you also don’t have your full strength
Beginning to see the issue with doing almost purely isolation exercises broken up by day. Did arms yesterday, and chest the day before, now doing back today, but it seems the majority of back exercises also work upper chest & arms
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I presume this is one of the lines of reasoning behind the 'full body workout 2-3 times a week' school of thought @_m_o_t_h_r_a_ ?
eepy Joe
I presume this is one of the lines of reasoning behind the 'full body workout 2-3 times a week' school of thought @_m_o_t_h_r_a_ ?
yeah, this is one of the downsides to training excessively hard(edited)
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it interferes with your ability to train well in the next workout
Gebrüder Zippie
Imo that’s a bad idea, if ur still slightly sore sure that’s fine but if your really sore your working damaged muscle fibers that have a much higher chance to tear under load
maybe... if it is purely muscle soreness, and not join/tendon related, and not actively painful, then I think the risk is low. If it prevents you from being able to use good form, then yes should probably skip that part of the workout.
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I am mostly advocating against the need to avoid training while sore at all, this is not realistic, and will really hinder progress long term
Started doing seated cable rows for back. Any other exercises for back that arent squats? Trying to avoid them for now because of previous back injury and hoping that building some additional strength before trying squats will give me a bit of breathing room from possibly aggravating that(edited)
eepy Joe
Started doing seated cable rows for back. Any other exercises for back that arent squats? Trying to avoid them for now because of previous back injury and hoping that building some additional strength before trying squats will give me a bit of breathing room from possibly aggravating that (edited)
The one that gets me more is when people just drop weights
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Like, yeah, I get it, you pick up big thing.
Ooohhhh
Doesn't make up for the fragile ego you clearly have to be doing that every single set on every machine
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Like its one thing you just lose grip or give out, totally get it. Actually makes me laugh when it so frequent though
Fully moved from spotify to soundcloud, like holy hell theres so many bangers and autistic earhype on soundcloud while spotify has the basic ahh songs and like barely any remixes
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Just wish discord had a soundcloud connections thingy so it would show songs
Discover independent artists and play select tracks from your library.
Brother Nekramite
Fully moved from spotify to soundcloud, like holy hell theres so many bangers and autistic earhype on soundcloud while spotify has the basic ahh songs and like barely any remixes
Dropping weights saves energy. For example when deadlifting for purpose of strength (not so much hypertrophy) I do not try to control the descent, which saves energy for the next rep. But not all gyms are like that, and imo you should not be making a scene.
If you’re getting hyped for a new PR go for it but it doesn’t need to be every set lol
https://youtube.com/shorts/Ry2QHUHLMZ0?feature=share
This advice is good if it’s hard to make a mind muscle connection to your lats. I also recommend doing a warmup with lighter weight 15-20 reps with this in mind to feel it in your lats
Nutritionmasons, my daily schedule is all over the place and significantly shifted and reduced my meals. The average day im maxxing at like 1200 calories. Is this something that would be especially negative for my longterm health?
I’m no longer against hair loss meds or multivitamins
eepy Joe
Nutritionmasons, my daily schedule is all over the place and significantly shifted and reduced my meals. The average day im maxxing at like 1200 calories. Is this something that would be especially negative for my longterm health?
3k is a bit much, but 2400 is the probably the max you want if you’re very active. I’ve done hyper low caloric deficit diets before. They certainly aren’t good for longevity and they are very hard to maintain. Likewise, if you’re looking to cut, loosing too much weight at a time might increase your odds at having loose skin. The recommendation for weight loss is 1-2 lbs a week, and I would recommend finding a free calorie tracking app to see what they recommend with your goals and current weight.
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The other difficulty of a 1k calorie diet is that it’s almost impossible to actually maintain. Cheating on the diet almost always occurs, often eating back the lost calories of the week
Brother YoMo
3k is a bit much, but 2400 is the probably the max you want if you’re very active. I’ve done hyper low caloric deficit diets before. They certainly aren’t good for longevity and they are very hard to maintain. Likewise, if you’re looking to cut, loosing too much weight at a time might increase your odds at having loose skin. The recommendation for weight loss is 1-2 lbs a week, and I would recommend finding a free calorie tracking app to see what they recommend with your goals and current weight.
Everything here is on point! 2k was what i was eating at the end of my cut and it was horrible. You just feel horrible and sluggish, your brain even gets fucked. This was with a very optimised diet doing everything I could to be on point but I’m never doing that again. I’m eating around 3200 right now and a feel amaaaazing.
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I’m pretty heavy though so 3200 is excessive for most people
Yeeee I weigh around 87kg and eating 3k calories is active maintenance with how much exercise I do regularly
Bróðir Riceland
Everything here is on point! 2k was what i was eating at the end of my cut and it was horrible. You just feel horrible and sluggish, your brain even gets fucked. This was with a very optimised diet doing everything I could to be on point but I’m never doing that again. I’m eating around 3200 right now and a feel amaaaazing.
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even tho i never trained it, i did 100kg for reps yesterday not really to failure at all tho, i wonder how much i could do if i properly trained it (deadlift)(edited)
My bench pr is 100kg and reps are like 75kg for 12 but due to work and being overall busy I haven’t been able to get to the gym and feeling like I’ve fallen off lul
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Bulking still tho, have gotten alotta fatter but also bigger, looking through some old pics I was at such a low bf% that when I look at them now I feel concerned
Creatine stimulates atp production, atp is stored in your muscles with a buuuunch of water (similar to how muscles store carbs). so 1 gram of atp is stored with 10 grams of water or something lika that. This is only in your muscles so you look buff as fuck and not fatter at all
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just googled it and im wrong lmao
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creatine makes adp witch converts to atp during exercise(edited)
It’s real but kinda a waste… you either do a 1-2week loading phase where you go thru significantly more, or u just take 5g a day from the start and don’t waste it since ur gonna be taking it for a while anyway
snugglebugaj
this has 0 taste which is based but doesnt come with a spoon and the retarded bag wont seal
my understanding is that it donates a phosphate group to convert ADP -> ATP, which allows the used ADP to regenerate faster in the the energy-donating form of ATP during metabolism
The creatine phosphate shuttle is an intracellular energy shuttle which facilitates transport of high energy phosphate from muscle cell mitochondria to myofibrils. This is part of phosphocreatine metabolism. In mitochondria, Adenosine triphosphate (ATP) levels are very high as a result of glycolysis, TCA cycle, oxidative phosphorylation processe...
You literally are excessively releasing dopamine without any neural basis of reason for you action it’s so bad for your mental and physical health it’s actually insane. Participate this November and you will see an overall positive in your health I promise because you all are coomers(edited)
I love that silver is so deep on his side of this debate, like he really hates doodling the noodle. Makes the conversation actually interesting.(edited)
Yeah since it desensitizes your reward system, vs just masterbating you naturally only end up doing it every so often.. interest in even just viewing porn has a much faster cooldown imo
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Viewing porn just bc you’re bored is definitely not healthy lol
Well if you get to the point where it's detrimental to your psychology, you might be beyond the point of being able to convince yourself not to. That's how addiction works.
Bromger Boomerang
Well if you get to the point where it's detrimental to your psychology, you might be beyond the point of being able to convince yourself not to. That's how addiction works.
i miss my old weight lifting gym, they had the professional equipment where you could set every little thing to be the perfect setting and had safety bars
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:(
11:36
for bench
11:37
something like this
11:37
ahhh this is distracting me from listening to my lecture lol
i miss my old weight lifting gym, they had the professional equipment where you could set every little thing to be the perfect setting and had safety bars
I want to get into a gym and working out eventually. But I’d rather go to the gym with a friend. Thing is is I don’t have many friends who’d go to the gym that are my age
I want to get into a gym and working out eventually. But I’d rather go to the gym with a friend. Thing is is I don’t have many friends who’d go to the gym that are my age
I have to nitpick this a little bit, you should be starting the lift with the bar in contact with your shins. You rolled it back a bit at the start, but still was a few cm away, which is definitely not optimal.
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ideally, it should be in contact with your shin/thigh for the entire upward motion